omnipotence and omniscience

[Rev.]

The last time I saw someone call out Kal-el about a word not being in the bible, Kal-el showed them 4 entries for it.

Well lets see if Rev. has egg on his face....

.....do dee do dee do.....File/New/Window....Favorites/"Look It Up"/"Scripture"/BibleGatway.com....cut-and-paste "omnipotence".........and we get "Sorry. No results found for "omnipotence" in Keyword Search"......cute-and-paste "omniscience"........wait on my slow azz computer........Don't buy Norton, guys, that CCAPP program realy slowes your michine down.........I want Lego's for Christmas, btw............and again we get "Sorry. No results found for "omniscience" in Keyword Search".

You're on a roll tonight, Jerry! You crack me up!

So far as I can tell, Rev., your in the clear.

Boy, I'd better be! All those years of study...

 

[Jerry]

You're on a roll tonight, Jerry! You crack me up!
Boy, I'd better be! All those years of study...

Kal-el got caught in a pinch of hypocrisy...I personally believe that this was an honest error on Kal-el's part. I won't hold it against him.

Kal-el usually brings a good game so he must be a bit off just now.
No biggie.

 

[Rev.]

So, you are correct, the terms "omnipotence" and "omniscience" are not used in biblical text; however it clearly ephasizes that God has these characteristics. Are the actual words that important? I mean, I'm sure if the bible writer's had these words available at the time, they without a doubt would have included them. So, rather then saying "God has complete foreknowledge and knows the consequences of all our actions", we can just say he's omniscient. And instead of saying "there's nothing he cannot do" we can just say he's omnipotent. Not that hard to comprehend really. Makes it a hell of alot easier to define this God.

So God knows everything about everything that exists. But since the future does not exist yet, how can He know it? And since the future is open, because it does not exist, then God is free to "change his mind" so that he may be a Holy God in the present which now exists.

 

[kal-el]

So God knows everything about everything that exists. But since the future does not exist yet, how can He know it? And since the future is open, because it does not exist, then God is free to "change his mind" so that he may be a Holy God in the present which now exists.

Now, now Rev. You seem to be discounting your very own "holy book". It very well states that God knows the future. I posted a few verses above. Jesus says God knows what you are going to ask before you ask him, Psalm 139 says this:

Before a word is on my tongue
you know it completely, O LORD.

Now if God knows a word before it is on the tip of someone's tongue, wouldn't you say that he knows the future. Or is he just Miss Cleo?

And please Rev, try at clearing this little point up. In Leveticus 21:16-23, it states that people with deformities cannot aproach the alter of God. But we find out that God is responsible for making them with deformities. What gives?

 

[Egypta]

So God knows everything about everything that exists. But since the future does not exist yet, how can He know it? And since the future is open, because it does not exist, then God is free to "change his mind" so that he may be a Holy God in the present which now exists.

In which case we should either take the words of the prophets from Ezekiel to John the Elder who speak to Biblical god’s future plans with a grain of salt, or that the prophets when foretelling the future, know more about the future than Biblical god.

There does not appear to be an omni anything in the scenarios you offer, why then believe in Biblical god?