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OK -- who believes this for more than a second?

Do you believe Pelosi?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 66.7%
  • No

    Votes: 8 33.3%

  • Total voters
    24
I believe her. It would be backwards logic if they took a specific stance on an issue merely out of spite and would do more harm then good.
 
Pelosi is beholding to the most liberal left wing area of this country, The Peoples Republic of San Francisco...............If she does not continue to do their bidding she will be history........
 
She is telling the truth. While I don't agree with all of Nancy Pelosi's beliefs, I don't think she's going to be some kind of left-wing firebrand out for revenge. She recognizes that the GOP overplayed its hand in 1998, and doesn't wish to repeat their mistakes.

Nancy Pelosi is very liberal herself, but I doubt she'll push a very liberal agenda as Speaker. She seems to me like more of an administrative, can't-we-all-just-get-along figure.
 
Navy Pride said:
Pelosi is beholding to the most liberal left wing area of this country, The Peoples Republic of San Francisco...............If she does not continue to do their bidding she will be history........

Unlikely. Do you really think that her district is going to mount a successful primary challenger against the Speaker of the House? Besides, she can "do their bidding" by voting for things her constituents agree with. But that isn't the same as using her role as Speaker to actively push other Democrats to pursue that agenda.
 
Hmmm.

http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Pelosi.htm

Pelosi aims to block Democratic hawks from key posts

Rep. Nancy Pelosi plans to sideline colleagues who are hawkish on national security in the Democratic leadership in the House.

Democratic Party sources said as House Speaker, Ms. Pelosi plans to block moves that would place hawks into important chairmanships. The sources said a key casualty would be Rep. Jane Harman, a six-term member of Congress who has cooperated with Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee.

"Nancy Pelosi wants total party discipline," a source in the Democratic Party leadership said. "If you played ball with the Republicans during this session, then you're not going to be given an important chair in the next session."
 
Goobieman said:

It's in Pelosi's interest to be a bi-partisan leader of the House, and to work with Bush. I think attempts at both will be tried initially. If they fail, then the Dem's hold the subpena trumpt card over the process and things get ugly.

BTW- Bush was able to work with a Dem State House back when he was Gov. of Texas. Granted they only met 4 times a year I believe, but they did work together.

I think the country is looking for some healing, as opposed to the us/them red/blue mentality that we've had for the past 6 years. There is a window to accomplish that now, and I'll give Bush, Reid and Peolsi the benefit of the doubt for now.
 
Navy Pride said:
Pelosi is beholding to the most liberal left wing area of this country, The Peoples Republic of San Francisco...............If she does not continue to do their bidding she will be history........

Pelosi will be the leader of the entire House, not just San Francisco. My sense is that she will include the GOP in on debates and work towards consensus that will avoid vetos at first.

One has to separate the harsh words said during campaigning, and the job of governing. Politicians do it all the time, just look at McCain.
 
Not for a ****ing millisecond.

The impeachment investigations under the guise of oversight will begin within the first month that they take power, if anyone honestly believes any different then they're diluting themselves, the blue dog Democrats aren't in control of the party the far left is.

Bush needs to take a page from the Reagan playbook and cut it with this conciliatory crap it's not going to work and the Reps in congress need to bring on the fillibusters for every single solitary piece of legislation that the Dems try to put through.
 
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I don't believe her for one second.

She's going to turn the next 2 years into a "congressional bush bashing" session, and cry "evil Bush" everytime the GOP doesn't bow down and lick the bootstraps of whatever looney liberal bills she tries to get passed.

Oh yeah, she'll probably get some ethics stuff going... which will conveniently target any repub, but anything that might implicate a Democrat won't go anywhere.

No way to I think that her statements of the last two days of "working together" and other assorted crap is what she "really wants", given her and her party-mates 2 years of non-stop bush hating statements.
 
Pelosi is no longer able to let her freak flag fly so to speak. With power comes responsibility and since I'm sure her head is filled with power now she will most likely adjust so her power can remain credible. People like Pelosi who seek power are generally the types who will adapt themselves in order to remain in power. It's like around here. You become a mod and suddenly you're "tamer" so to speak. If you refuse to be "tamer" you'll get the boot and have to go start your own website somewhere else! :rofl That's why politicians are so damn boring and full of s-hite all the time. All their refreshing honesty has to be put away whilst wearing the politician hat. Personally I don't know how people can live like that but I doubt we will be hearing Pelosi refer to Bush as the emporer without clothes anymore.
 
Navy Pride said:
Pelosi is beholding to the most liberal left wing area of this country, The Peoples Republic of San Francisco...............If she does not continue to do their bidding she will be history........

I wonder if she'll last longer than Delay.
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Not for a ****ing millisecond.

The impeachment investigations under the guise of oversight will begin within the first month that they take power, if anyone honestly believes any different then they're diluting themselves, the blue dog Democrats aren't in control of the party the far left is.

And that's bad because . . . why again? Oh, right right right, we'll lose the war on terror and everybody dies, gotcha. Plus Pelosi will put forward her "San Francisco values" and put gay people in charge and force every woman to have an abortion.

Considering the impeachment that Clinton went through, I think the Democrats would have a much more valid point in this case. Since that one didn't destroy our country, or remove the president, I doubt this one would, either. That's assuming your paranoid rantings have anything approaching reality, that is. Of course, I'm sure that you have oodles of proof. Oodles.

Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Bush needs to take a page from the Reagan playbook and cut it with this conciliatory crap it's not going to work and the Reps in congress need to bring on the fillibusters for every single solitary piece of legislation that the Dems try to put through.
So you were not one of the people that argued that Congress should eliminate the filibuster because Democrats were using it to block Bush's judicial nominations, right? You never would have called the Democrats partisan traitors for trying to oppose the President's war on terror? I mean, you'd have to be an impossible hypocrite to think that and then call for Republican filibusters now. You wouldn't be like that, would you?
 
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I believe Pelosi does have the nation's best interest at heart; I believe she will try to work with conservatives. I believe that the most important thing to any of the Dems right now is to get a Democrat in the white house in 2008; ergo, it is not in anyone's interest to exclude the republicans or pursue some "revenge" agenda.
That said, I believe an investigation of Bush is inevitable, and that, depending upon how well he's covered his tracks, impeachment may well be inevitable too.
They are giving him time to cover his tracks right now.
He would be wise to do so without delay, to the best of his ability.
 
CoffeeSaint said:
And that's bad because . . . why again? Oh, right right right, we'll lose the war on terror and everybody dies, gotcha. Plus Pelosi will put forward her "San Francisco values" and put gay people in charge and force every woman to have an abortion.

No that's not my concern with the far left what they really plan on doing is far far scarier:

First on the agenda crush the opposition and reinstate the "Fairness Doctrine," and march all the useful idiots right on down that road to serfdom, end U.S. sovereignty, join the world court so as to have our servicemen be subject to trial by a foreign entity beholden to tyrants and despots, end immigration control, give illegal immigrants the vote, impeach a sitting President during war time, impeach Cheney, send Pelosi to the White House, cut funding for the war, destroy our economy while propping up our enemies economies by installing the Kyoto accords, once economy is destroyed demand that only the state can set things right while using the state controlled press that has now resulted from the enacting of the fairness doctrine to get the sheeple of America to go along with it, surrender to our enemies and stab our friends in the back, take away gun rights to insure that no one can fight back against the rising tide of socialism and totalitarianism in this nation, end individual property rights through emminent domain while saying it's for the public good, do all things aforementioned under the guise that the Constitution is obsolete and it is really a living document, welcome to the Peoples Republic of America.

Considering the impeachment that Clinton went through, I think the Democrats would have a much more valid point in this case. Since that one didn't destroy our country, or remove the president, I doubt this one would, either.

That was not during a time of war where the country was in serious threat of being attacked on the homeland; all of the governments resources must be focused like a lazer towards preventing another attack.

That's assuming your paranoid rantings have anything approaching reality, that is. Of course, I'm sure that you have oodles of proof. Oodles.

Ooodles of proof of what? That impeaching a sitting President during a time of war is a bad idea? That's more of a common sense issue.

So you were not one of the people that argued that Congress should eliminate the filibuster because Democrats were using it to block Bush's legislation, right?

No sir legislation was not the issue the issue was the unprecedented use of the fillibuster in the comfirmation of judicial appointees, judges deserve an up or down vote.

You never would have called the Democrats traitors for trying to oppose the President's war on terror?

Kerry, Murtha and Durbin sure as hell are they contributed to the Propaganda machine through their language in relation to the troops, others like Pelosi and the like are just useful idiots.

I mean, you'd have to be an impossible hypocrite to think that and then call for Republican filibusters now. You wouldn't be like that, would you?

I'm totally against Republican fillibusters of Judicial nominees, but since the President is still a Republican I doubt that will be a problem seeing as he still gets to select judges.
 
1069 said:
They are giving him time to cover his tracks right now.
He would be wise to do so without delay, to the best of his ability.

Unlike Clinton attempted to do I doubt that GWB will attempt to obstruct justice or in your words "cover his tracks," that's what Clinton was impeached for in the first place. Indescretions can be forgiven, trying to cover them up are often far worse that the indescretion themselves, just look at Clinton and Nixon as opposed to Reagan with the whole Iran-Contra scandal, sh!t Reagan sold weapons to Iran, all Clinton did was sexually harasss someone, and all Nixon did was engage in dirty politics, but unlike Reagan who came clean to the American people Nixon and Clinton tried to cover it up and that's what ****ed them. If GWB did do anything wrong let him come clean, if he tries to cover it up then I think he should be impeached.
 
hipsterdufus said:
Pelosi will be the leader of the entire House, not just San Francisco. My sense is that she will include the GOP in on debates and work towards consensus that will avoid vetos at first.

One has to separate the harsh words said during campaigning, and the job of governing. Politicians do it all the time, just look at McCain.

Doesn't make any difference...........She was still elected by the Peoples Republic of SF and if she does not follow their left wing radical beliefs she will be history......
 
Navy Pride said:
Doesn't make any difference...........She was still elected by the Peoples Republic of SF and if she does not follow their left wing radical beliefs she will be history......

WTF is this "People's Republic of San Francisco" bull you keep spouting? I lived in the Bay area, I have family and friends that still live there, and they are as American as you and I. You actually consider them to be a different nation because their political ideals are different than yours? You believe that since San Francisco is tolerant that they must be Communist? You and your talking points disgust me.
 
CoffeeSaint said:
WTF is this "People's Republic of San Francisco" bull you keep spouting? I lived in the Bay area, I have family and friends that still live there, and they are as American as you and I. You actually consider them to be a different nation because their political ideals are different than yours? You believe that since San Francisco is tolerant that they must be Communist? You and your talking points disgust me.

You better believe I do...The residents of Berkeley and the Peoples Republic of SF hate our military more then you do and that is saying something.....
 
Navy Pride said:
You better believe I do...The residents of Berkeley and the Peoples Republic of SF hate our military more then you do and that is saying something.....

And the military is America, right. I keep forgetting that this entire nation is nothing but a giant military base, that every US citizen nothing more than a potential soldier or a mindless flag-waver who is required by law and by nature to keep screaming, "Support the troops! Support the troops!" like a doll with a pull string.

You have no idea what it means to be an American, do you? All you have in you is intolerance and parochial nationalism. Fine. Let me state, for the record, that I would rather be a citizen of your imaginary San Francisco Republic, than remain a citizen of your United States of the Armed Forces.
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
No that's not my concern with the far left what they really plan on doing is far far scarier:

First on the agenda crush the opposition and reinstate the "Fairness Doctrine," and march all the useful idiots right on down that road to serfdom, end U.S. sovereignty, join the world court so as to have our servicemen be subject to trial by a foreign entity beholden to tyrants and despots, end immigration control, give illegal immigrants the vote, impeach a sitting President during war time, impeach Cheney, send Pelosi to the White House, cut funding for the war, destroy our economy while propping up our enemies economies by installing the Kyoto accords, once economy is destroyed demand that only the state can set things right while using the state controlled press that has now resulted from the enacting of the fairness doctrine to get the sheeple of America to go along with it, surrender to our enemies and stab our friends in the back, take away gun rights to insure that no one can fight back against the rising tide of socialism and totalitarianism in this nation, end individual property rights through emminent domain while saying it's for the public good, do all things aforementioned under the guise that the Constitution is obsolete and it is really a living document, welcome to the Peoples Republic of America.

Congratulations, TOT! You have now joined my collection, which will hopefully be available for public viewing at some point soon, of internet paranoia. I'll be calling the exhibit "Fearcasting: When Absurdity Tells Logic To Take A Hike." I hope to show how sad it is when someone completely abandons cause and effect, and joins the likes of Nostradamus and the Weekly World News in projecting their paranoid fantasies onto a real-world situation. Your contribution is greatly appreciated!
 
CoffeeSaint said:
You have no idea what it means to be an American, do you? All you have in you is intolerance and parochial nationalism. Fine. Let me state, for the record, that I would rather be a citizen of your imaginary San Francisco Republic, than remain a citizen of your United States of the Armed Forces.

Tell us how you really feel. :lol:

I especially like "United States of the Armed Forces".
 
CoffeeSaint said:
Congratulations, TOT! You have now joined my collection, which will hopefully be available for public viewing at some point soon, of internet paranoia. I'll be calling the exhibit "Fearcasting: When Absurdity Tells Logic To Take A Hike." I hope to show how sad it is when someone completely abandons cause and effect, and joins the likes of Nostradamus and the Weekly World News in projecting their paranoid fantasies onto a real-world situation. Your contribution is greatly appreciated!

It's not paranoia when it's true, everything I listed the leftists in charge of the Democratic party actually support let's analyze my comment from start to finish:

1. Democrats do support the Fairness Doctrine they've got a bill all ligned up.

2. By their own words Democrats don't think the U.S. can act militarily without international approval, IE U.N. approval, IE bye bye U.S. sovereignty.

3. Democrats do support the U.S. entering into the world court.

4. Democrats do oppose immigration control.

5. Democrats do want to give illegal aliens the vote.

6. Democrats do want to impeach a sitting president during war time ofcourse the impeachments investigations will be done under the guise of investigative oversight. Believe that and you believe in the tooth fairy.

7. Oh you better believe that Democrats want Cheney gone and Pelosi in.

8. Cut funding for the war? Well they want us out of Iraq and the only way they get that is to cut its funding

9. Kyoto? Naa the Democratic party would never support anything like that. :roll:

10. Democrats are Keynesians if not out and out socialists so you damn sure better believe they want a state planned economy.

11. They do infact plan on surrendering and tucking tail to the insurgency in Iraq that will be surrendering to our enemies and abandoning our Iraqi allies.

12. Taking away gun rights? In Pelosi's home district they've already outlawed gun ownership she sets the agenda for the house now, guns are gone.

13. The biggest proponents for emminent domain are Democrats.

14. Ya and Democrats don't believe in a living will Constitution now? Ha! :doh

This is not sh!t I'm making up this is precisely the future that you voted for hence the people get the government they deserve!
 
Goobieman said:

You would think with all the hype around the elections still going on, that something like this would be on CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, or something other than the Magazine that is known for funding Paula Jones's lawsuit after she ran out of money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insight_Magazine
It was noted for providing additional funding to Paula Jones for her sexual harassment lawsuit against Bill Clinton, allowing the suit to continue after her own funding ran out.
 
CoffeeSaint said:
And the military is America, right. I keep forgetting that this entire nation is nothing but a giant military base, that every US citizen nothing more than a potential soldier or a mindless flag-waver who is required by law and by nature to keep screaming, "Support the troops! Support the troops!" like a doll with a pull string.

You have no idea what it means to be an American, do you? All you have in you is intolerance and parochial nationalism. Fine. Let me state, for the record, that I would rather be a citizen of your imaginary San Francisco Republic, than remain a citizen of your United States of the Armed Forces.


Why am I not surprised.........I would be your a huge Pelosi fan too..
 
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