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Ocasio Cortez says we should support socialism

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President Trump says Americans would rather walk their dogs than eat them!!!!! That is what they are doing in Venezuela. Do they taste just like chicken????
 

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Solid thread. Enjoy your points.

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President Trump says Americans would rather walk their dogs than eat them!!!!! That is what they are doing in Venezuela. Do they taste just like chicken????

You are so pathetically enslaved to your propaganda masters you haven't even begun to wonder why they always bring up Venezuela.

Ask all your liberal friends what nation they think we should model our laws and social safety nets after more closely. None of them are going to say Venezuela. And you'll never understand why that is, will you?
 

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President Trump says Americans would rather walk their dogs than eat them!!!!! That is what they are doing in Venezuela. Do they taste just like chicken????
How is this tripe breaking news?
 

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President Trump says Americans would rather walk their dogs than eat them!!!!! That is what they are doing in Venezuela. Do they taste just like chicken????

Frankly I don't understand your point. Moreover as I am not responding to a legitimate news article it seems this post, as obtuse as it is, belongs somewhere else.
 

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Frankly I don't understand your point. Moreover as I am not responding to a legitimate news article it seems this post, as obtuse as it is, belongs somewhere else.

He's among the ~85% of conservatives who literally don't see a difference between Canada and Cuba.

This is a demographic that simply can't be helped. They're enthralled by their propaganda masters and lack the tools to extricate themselves from this situation.
 

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Agreed. Not news - it's a statement. Does not meet the requirements of the breaking news forum.
 

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He's among the ~85% of conservatives who literally don't see a difference between Canada and Cuba.

This is a demographic that simply can't be helped. They're enthralled by their propaganda masters and lack the tools to extricate themselves from this situation.

Good point. Canada and Cuba.. alliteration even. Venezuela is also sort of the go-to Willie Horton conservatives use when economics are discussed.
 

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He's among the ~85% of conservatives who literally don't see a difference between Canada and Cuba.

This is a demographic that simply can't be helped. They're enthralled by their propaganda masters and lack the tools to extricate themselves from this situation.

No question. Too many conservatives think socialism is the same thing as communism. Many are quick to want to point out that socialism is failure, even though the most successful economies in the world on a true per capita basis have much more of a socialism component than the US.
 

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AOC says something stupid. In other news the sun sets in the West.
 

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President Trump says Americans would rather walk their dogs than eat them!!!!! That is what they are doing in Venezuela. Do they taste just like chicken????

No link?

I mean yeah, we know Cortez is going to back that specific horse. But you could link to an article or something that would help cover your point.
 

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No question. Too many conservatives think socialism is the same thing as communism. Many are quick to want to point out that socialism is failure, even though the most successful economies in the world on a true per capita basis have much more of a socialism component than the US.
Uhh actually, it is. Socialism and Communism are one in the same, big government ideologies forcing people to be dependent on said government for everything.
 

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He's among the ~85% of conservatives who literally don't see a difference between Canada and Cuba.

This is a demographic that simply can't be helped. They're enthralled by their propaganda masters and lack the tools to extricate themselves from this situation.

Sure, I know the difference. Cuba is warmer and has a better beaches.
 

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Either way, freedom and individual liberty, hallmarks of the USA, are lost.

So how do you explain that the ratings of democracy, individual freedom and freedom of the press consistently score higher among the leading European socialist countries than that of the United States?

https://www.businessinsider.com/eco...y-index-best-countries-2018-1#2-iceland-958-2
https://www.businessinsider.com/countries-most-freedom-in-the-world-2018-4
https://rsf.org/en/ranking

Curious, isn't it?
 

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So how do you explain that the ratings of democracy, individual freedom and freedom of the press consistently score higher among the leading European socialist countries than that of the United States?

https://www.businessinsider.com/eco...y-index-best-countries-2018-1#2-iceland-958-2
https://www.businessinsider.com/countries-most-freedom-in-the-world-2018-4
https://rsf.org/en/ranking

Curious, isn't it?

They have been fortunate not to have gone full socialist. They have been saved by capitalism.
 

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Either way, freedom and individual liberty, hallmarks of the USA, are lost.

Is individual liberty lost with our socialized roads?
 

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There is nothing wrong with Social Democrats as they save Eastern Europe after World War II.
 

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Today's tough trivia.

Name one country that has gotten prosperous because of collectivist policies????

{cue Jeopardy music}
 

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President Trump says Americans would rather walk their dogs than eat them!!!!! That is what they are doing in Venezuela. Do they taste just like chicken????

I missed the breaking news link in this thread. Where is it?
 

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Today's tough trivia.

Name one country that has gotten prosperous because of collectivist policies????

{cue Jeopardy music}

Going by the conservative definition of "socialist nations?"

Canada, Sweden, Norway, UK, France, Germany, Australia, Japan, Denmark, Spain....
 

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Going by the conservative definition of "socialist nations?"

Canada, Sweden, Norway, UK, France, Germany, Australia, Japan, Denmark, Spain....

They all got prosperous *because* of capitalism. Than, naturally, socialist policies followed to leech off the profits.. Familiar pattern.
 
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