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Ocasio-Cortez compares members of migrant caravan to Jews fleeing Nazi Germany

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oc...-migrant-caravan-to-jews-fleeing-nazi-germany
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the star Democratic congresswoman-elect from New York, compared migrant caravan members who clashed over the weekend with U.S. border agents to Jewish families fleeing Nazi Germany and other targets of genocide.Ocasio-Cortez, who was elected to represent New York’s 14th Congressional District earlier this month, tweeted over the weekend in support of those attempting to cross the U.S.-Mexico border. She compared those fleeing violence in Central America to those who escaped Germany, Rwanda and Syria.
“Asking to be considered a refugee & applying for status isn’t a crime. It wasn’t for Jewish families fleeing Germany. It wasn’t for targeted families fleeing Rwanda. It wasn’t for communities fleeing war-torn Syria. And it isn’t for those fleeing violence in Central America,” Ocasio-Cortez tweeted late Sunday.

This gal is so stupid, the people who look up to her or thinks she's smart make me shake my head.
 

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They're fleeing a murderous regimes, at least two of which have engaged in genocidal violence.

This apparently upsets you.

Like, bummer, man.

The right wing has built themselves up into this frenzy that this migrant caravan is literally some kind of ISIS invasion force, and therefore they are the "bad guys." That's how someone thinks Cortez' statement is stupid.
 

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If Trump is going to gas minority women and children, then comparisons will be drawn.
 

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They're fleeing a murderous regimes, at least two of which have engaged in genocidal violence.

This apparently upsets you.

Like, bummer, man.

I thought it was an inept government that was corrupt and it was gang violence that caused the high murder rate, not a genocide. Do you have proof of that.
 

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I thought it was an inept government that was corrupt and it was gang violence that caused the high murder rate, not a genocide. Do you have proof of that.

Like many things the left pushes, when the first message doesn't work, change it.
 

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Ocasio-Cortez compares members of migrant caravan to Jews fleeing Nazi Germany

I don't know enough about the nature and extent of activities/events in Honduras to say how alike or unalike be the Caravan migrangs and 1930s and '40s Jews who fled Germany. That said, insofar as Jews have, for as long as there have been Jews, been variously fleeing some governmental structure's opprobrious acts, I'm sure given adequate examination, one can find some diasporic event/people whose circumstance mirrors those of at least one of history's communities of Jews.
 

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oc...-migrant-caravan-to-jews-fleeing-nazi-germany
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the star Democratic congresswoman-elect from New York, compared migrant caravan members who clashed over the weekend with U.S. border agents to Jewish families fleeing Nazi Germany and other targets of genocide.Ocasio-Cortez, who was elected to represent New York’s 14th Congressional District earlier this month, tweeted over the weekend in support of those attempting to cross the U.S.-Mexico border. She compared those fleeing violence in Central America to those who escaped Germany, Rwanda and Syria.
“Asking to be considered a refugee & applying for status isn’t a crime. It wasn’t for Jewish families fleeing Germany. It wasn’t for targeted families fleeing Rwanda. It wasn’t for communities fleeing war-torn Syria. And it isn’t for those fleeing violence in Central America,” Ocasio-Cortez tweeted late Sunday.

This gal is so stupid, the people who look up to her or thinks she's smart make me shake my head.
Tip for debating: State why you think "Ocasio-Cortez's comparing members of migrant caravan to Jews fleeing Nazi Germany," is an incorrect comparison. Writing, "she's stupid," says nothing to change any reader's mind.

I think the analogy is compatible. Jews were fleeing a murderous regime for the benefit and safety of themselves and their children. Central American refugees are fleeing murderous gangs that threaten their lives and the lives of their children.
 

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I thought it was an inept government that was corrupt and it was gang violence that caused the high murder rate, not a genocide. Do you have proof of that.

Like many things the left pushes, when the first message doesn't work, change it.

Many of them are fleeing violence. Does the source really matter?
 

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oc...-migrant-caravan-to-jews-fleeing-nazi-germany


This gal is so stupid, the people who look up to her or thinks she's smart make me shake my head.

1. She's raising a strawman. Nobody is calling people asking for asylum criminals.

2. She is ignoring the people who are attempting to break through our border illegally. They are criminals.

This bimbo is emulating the talking potato heads she listens to...such as this lady:

"...We’ve seen the images of the children and the women and there has got to be a pragmatic and compassionate answer that does not involve tear gassing children. That is not who America is. That is not what we do.”

https://www.mediaite.com/uncategori...-that-does-not-involve-tear-gassing-children/

What that talking potato head doesn't seem to realize is that our immigration policy didn't get those women and children tear gassed. Our border control laws and the decisions of those women got them and their children tear gassed.

Unfortunately, this useful bimbo, Ocasio-Cortez, has a slew of useful idiots who have been conditioned by those talking potato heads to be influenced by her drivel.
 

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Many of them are fleeing violence. Does the source really matter?

Knowing the source of the violence does matter. Is it anarchist, for profit, crimes of poverty, or government ordered extermination. Ya I think it matter, so we can judge our responses more accurately.
 

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Tip for debating: State why you think "Ocasio-Cortez's comparing members of migrant caravan to Jews fleeing Nazi Germany," is an incorrect comparison. Writing, "she's stupid," says nothing to change any reader's mind.

I think the analogy is compatible. Jews were fleeing a murderous regime for the benefit and safety of themselves and their children. Central American refugees are fleeing murderous gangs that threaten their lives and the lives of their children.

Sorry I thought obvious stupid was obvious, I guess some people don't know history... I thought better of ya'll.
 

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Knowing the source of the violence does matter. Is it anarchist, for profit, crimes of poverty, or government ordered extermination. Ya I think it matter, so we can judge our responses more accurately.

If you are a victim of violence, you don't care why, you just want to escape it. Do you respond differently to a refugee from violence depending who or why violence is being done to them?
 

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Tip for debating: State why you think "Ocasio-Cortez's comparing members of migrant caravan to Jews fleeing Nazi Germany," is an incorrect comparison. Writing, "she's stupid," says nothing to change any reader's mind.

I think the analogy is compatible. Jews were fleeing a murderous regime for the benefit and safety of themselves and their children. Central American refugees are fleeing murderous gangs that threaten their lives and the lives of their children.

But why haven't those who've fled stopped in Mexico or Panama (about the same distance in the other direction from the starting point of Nicaragua)? Not an apt analogy unless the Jews were fleeing Germany for financial reasons.
 

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oc...-migrant-caravan-to-jews-fleeing-nazi-germany


This gal is so stupid, the people who look up to her or thinks she's smart make me shake my head.

Yeah, it seems to be a real problem in the USA. Look at all the people who look up to a moron like Trump intellectually.

People actually believe the earth is flat, or that the earth is only 6000 years old. A whole country where 1/2 the people think they know more about science than the people who have devoted their lives to becoming experts in their fields. Then they accuse others of being stupid! I guess it's true, you really can't fix stupid.

No wonder China is kicking America's butt these days, guaranteed 1/2 the Chinese population doesn't think they know more about science than scientists.
 

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If you are a victim of violence, you don't care why, you just want to escape it. Do you respond differently to a refugee from violence depending who or why violence is being done to them?

Are you asking about my personal response to them, then I would say no. My response to them is the same if they are fleeing violent gangs as it would be to people fleeing the holocaust as it would be the same to you. Because I personally don't care. But when we talk about our collect response as a country to them in immigration or by intervening with either sanctions or my military force, all three of those actions are pretty substantial so its important to know the situation in that country and whats going on.
 

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If Trump is going to gas minority women and children, then comparisons will be drawn.

We already have literal concentration camps. Left unchecked, we're not that far away from the "final solution."
 

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Yeah, it seems to be a real problem in the USA. Look at all the people who look up to a moron like Trump intellectually.

People actually believe the earth is flat, or that the earth is only 6000 years old. A whole country where 1/2 the people think they know more about science than the people who have devoted their lives to becoming experts in their fields. Then they accuse others of being stupid! I guess it's true, you really can't fix stupid.

No wonder China is kicking America's butt these days, guaranteed 1/2 the Chinese population doesn't think they know more about science than scientists.

I'll cherry pick from your post. I don't think scientists think man is the only or major cause of climate change but they only try to limit the greenhouse gas man creates. Why do scientists put all their eggs into the AGW basket when catastrophes abound with climate change?
 

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But why haven't those who've fled stopped in Mexico or Panama (about the same distance in the other direction from the starting point of Nicaragua)? Not an apt analogy unless the Jews were fleeing Germany for financial reasons.

She was making a broader point about people seeking refuge from perceived oppression, the various causes of oppression being secondary.

Mocking her intelligence has become SOP for her critics. I suspect in an IQ contest between Alexandria and the OP the odds in her favor would be around ten to one.
 
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I love how the right is attempting to brand this woman as stupid when, if you listen to her, she is anything but. Or how they paint her as some crazy socialist when the majority of Americans agree with her policies. Or how they talk about her shoes for more time than they cover actual politics.
 
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