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Obama's big mistake

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So the Obama/Democrat big line of attack now is "secret" foreign donors contributing to the Republicans......


This allegation was refuted by the New York Times of all places-

Topic of Foreign Money in U.S. Races Hits Hustings

Then David Axelrod goes on Face The Nation to continue the charge,only to go down in flames when Bob Schieffer makes him look like a baffoon.(Skip to the 2:10 mark)


All the while Obama is out campaigning on this nonsense and never mentions that his campaign accepted millions from shady donors in 2008.

Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations

Since Obama made this an issue,I figured I'd point out the hypocrisy in all of this.
 

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This line of attack is doing nothing but show how desperate the Dems are getting.They don't want to run on the issues,they're just throwing crap up against the wall to see if it sticks.
 

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Please quote the part of the NYT piece that showed the allegations are false. Hint: Ed Gillespie is FOS.

"But a closer examination shows that there is little evidence that what the chamber does in collecting overseas dues is improper or even unusual, according to both liberal and conservative election-law lawyers and campaign finance documents.

In fact, the controversy over the Chamber of Commerce financing may say more about the Washington spin cycle — where an Internet blog posting can be quickly picked up by like-minded groups and become political fodder for the president himself — than it does about the vagaries of campaign finance.

Organizations from both ends of the political spectrum, from liberal ones like the A.F.L.-C.I.O. and the Sierra Club to conservative groups like the National Rifle Association, have international affiliations and get money from foreign entities while at the same time pushing political causes in the United States.

In addition, more than 160 political action committees active in campaigning have been set up by corporations that are based overseas, including military contractors like B.A.E. Systems and pharmaceutical giants like GlaxoSmithKline, according to data from the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan research service.

Such groups, which collectively have spent hundreds of millions dollars on political causes to advance their agenda, are required by law to ensure that any foreign money they receive is isolated and not used to finance political activities, which would violate a longstanding federal ban. The Chamber of Commerce says it has a vigorous process for ensuring that does not happen, and no evidence has emerged to suggest that is untrue."
 

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All you gotta do is read the article.;)
 

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"But a closer examination shows that there is little evidence that what the chamber does in collecting overseas dues is improper or even unusual, according to both liberal and conservative election-law lawyers and campaign finance documents.

In fact, the controversy over the Chamber of Commerce financing may say more about the Washington spin cycle — where an Internet blog posting can be quickly picked up by like-minded groups and become political fodder for the president himself — than it does about the vagaries of campaign finance.

Organizations from both ends of the political spectrum, from liberal ones like the A.F.L.-C.I.O. and the Sierra Club to conservative groups like the National Rifle Association, have international affiliations and get money from foreign entities while at the same time pushing political causes in the United States.

In addition, more than 160 political action committees active in campaigning have been set up by corporations that are based overseas, including military contractors like B.A.E. Systems and pharmaceutical giants like GlaxoSmithKline, according to data from the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan research service.

Such groups, which collectively have spent hundreds of millions dollars on political causes to advance their agenda, are required by law to ensure that any foreign money they receive is isolated and not used to finance political activities, which would violate a longstanding federal ban. The Chamber of Commerce says it has a vigorous process for ensuring that does not happen, and no evidence has emerged to suggest that is untrue."


As Hitler said: "It is not truth that matters, but victory."

And Obama knows it's true. To hell with the truth if you can make a point, and if you get caught in the lie just time another and in doing it change the subject because followers have one track minds if that and they forget and take up the new fresher lie to defend blindly.

Obama lives by this.
 

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As Hitler said: "It is not truth that matters, but victory."

And Obama knows it's true. To hell with the truth if you can make a point, and if you get caught in the lie just time another and in doing it change the subject because followers have one track minds if that and they forget and take up the new fresher lie to defend blindly.

Obama lives by this.

Just my two cents here, but using Hitler references doesn't really help the cause, yanno?
 

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Just my two cents here, but using Hitler references doesn't really help the cause, yanno?

Yeah, accusing the Democrats of desperate nonsense while spouting desperate nonsense.
 

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The Democratic 'D' Now Stands for Demagoguery


October 15, 2010
By Michael Barone

I've been in campaign meetings. Sometimes the atmosphere is grim. Your side is down, and you're looking to turn things around.

The pollster goes down the list of issues tested. Health care? Nope. They hate your stand on that. The economy? Thumbs down. Foreign policy? Nobody cares anymore.

Then, finally, something that works. An assistant at the polling shop throws in a question about campaign contributions by foreigners. Turns out most voters don't like them. They don't think it's an important issue, but, hey, nothing else works. So let's go with it.

This or something like it seems to have taken place at Team Obama Central sometime in the past few weeks.

Back in January, the president attacked the Supreme Court for ruling that corporations and unions have First Amendment speech rights and pointed to the possibility that foreigners might try to influence American election outcomes. Now he and his spokesmen on the campaign trail and on Sunday interview programs are charging that outfits like the Chamber of Commerce are smuggling foreign money into the campaign.

Their evidence? Well, there isn't much, as even The New York Times, The Washington Post and factcheck.org agree.

The smoking gun? The Chamber of Commerce collects $100,000 in membership dues from foreigners out of a $200,000,000 operating budget and spends some of that budget on campaign ads. But Obama uberadviser David Axelrod says it's up to the chamber to prove it's innocent.

There are a couple of odd things here. One is that the 2008 Obama campaign, by deliberately not using the address verification software most enterprises use to determine it's really your credit card, took in a lot more illegal foreign money than its rivals. The Obama folks may be projecting their own sins on their opponents.

The other is that this charge of foreign money doesn't fit into any familiar political narrative. At least when the Obamaites attack evil rich people, some voters think of 19th-century caricatures of fat cats (and ignore the fact that Obama carried voters with incomes over $200,000 in 2008).

But who are these evil foreigners who are trying to inject their dirty money into American campaigns? The guys who got the jobs that were supposedly outsourced from Youngstown, Ohio? Americans who gave up their citizenship to avoid taxes? James Bond villains like Auric Goldfinger?

I seem to remember that it was candidate Barack Obama (not John McCain or Hillary Clinton) who gave a big election year speech in the Tiergarten in Berlin. It was Obama cheerleaders who told us that foreigners would love us once again if we sent George W. Bush back to Texas and installed their multicultural champion in the White House.

Back in 2008, we were supposed to vote for the candidate foreigners loved. Now, in 2010, we are supposed to vote against the party foreigners support.

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For some people on this forum, Obama's biggest mistake seems to be that he was born...
 
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