ObamaCare Success Part IV

[Diving Mullah]

Like most COBRA participants Jessica Stephens, a 29-year-old Chicagoan, pays the full cost of insurance sponsored by her former employer—$518 a month. Most employers include a 2 percent administrative fee.Stephens, who now makes about $25,000 working as a cook at a restaurant that doesn’t offer insurance, says she took a part-time job to pay her COBRA bill. She’s likely to qualify for exchange tax credits that would allow her to buy a policy starting in January for less than $200 a month.
“That’s wonderful. I would definitely take the exchange” once it becomes available, she said. “I thought I could squeeze by financially doing COBRA, but the last nine months have told me that’s not possible.”

Diving Mullah

 

[Velvet Elvis]

Yay! Four...FOUR WHOLE PEOPLE that this P.O.S. law helps. What about the tens of thousands who got their hours cut because of 0bamaCare? What about the thousands flat-out laid off? What about the MILLIONS who will have their deductibles and monthly fees jacked up higher than 0bama's nose in the air, because of it?

If four is all you have then piss on those four. Socialists should be well versed in the "not for the individual, but for the collective" groupthink.

 

[greengirl77]

Yay! Four...FOUR WHOLE PEOPLE that this P.O.S. law helps. What about the tens of thousands who got their hours cut because of 0bamaCare? What about the thousands flat-out laid off? What about the MILLIONS who will have their deductibles and monthly fees jacked up higher than 0bama's nose in the air, because of it?

If four is all you have then piss on those four. Socialists should be well versed in the "not for the individual, but for the collective" groupthink.

First prove that millions will have jacked up fee's lol!!

 

[Visbek]

Yay! Four...FOUR WHOLE PEOPLE that this P.O.S. law helps. What about the tens of thousands who got their hours cut because of 0bamaCare?

There is no actual indication that this is happening. The statistics aren't showing a huge burst in employees losing hours. Just *cough* anecdotes.

What about the thousands flat-out laid off?

Millions were laid off... because of the recession. Unemployment is slowly dropping. Oh, and people have been leaving the workforce since 2001; that's a demographic issue (retiring Baby Boomers), not a health care issue.

What about the MILLIONS who will have their deductibles and monthly fees jacked up higher than 0bama's nose in the air, because of it?

Health insurance costs are actually coming in much lower than initially expected.

Plus, there are millions of people who the insurance companies flat-out refused to cover, who can now get insurance.

Socialists should be well versed in the "not for the individual, but for the collective" groupthink.

Yeah, too bad that the ACA is fundamentally a conservative idea, posited as a free-market solution that stops people from freeloading on the system, and that keeps the insurance companies in business, and is working out fine in Massachussetts. Romneycare vs. Obamacare: Lessons for today's 'shutdown' debacle (+video) - CSMonitor.com

 

[Neomalthusian]

The high-deductible plan that is best for my son and family is going to be abolished by the ironically named "Affordable Care" act. The deductibles will be roughly half what the plan I chose is, but the premiums will be roughly double. So it is statistically extremely likely for my young healthy self and my young healthy wife and my very young healthy baby that we will need very little health care this year but will suddenly be paying double the premiums for essentially no reason.

We don't need more benefits in our health insurance coverage -- we need the premiums to be affordable. The "Affordable Care Act" doubles our premiums starting January 1.

There is a demographic the ACA does not only fail to help, but actively harms, and that is young, healthy, middle class families. Their high-deductible, low-premium options have been done away with, many don't qualify for any substantial subsidy if they do at all, and then there's the 'family glitch,' which even Bill Clinton has admitted is "obviously not fair" and "bad policy." There is no good reason to screw over young, healthy middle class families the way the ACA does.

But thanks to the President and his minions for lying to us all that we will be able to keep our coverage if it suits us. No, clearly we won't.

 

[iguanaman]

Yay! Four...FOUR WHOLE PEOPLE that this P.O.S. law helps. What about the tens of thousands who got their hours cut because of 0bamaCare? What about the thousands flat-out laid off? What about the MILLIONS who will have their deductibles and monthly fees jacked up higher than 0bama's nose in the air, because of it?

If four is all you have then piss on those four. Socialists should be well versed in the "not for the individual, but for the collective" groupthink.

You mean the millions of workers that got their hours cut because of the Bush recession don't you? Because the rate has been falling since 2009 so Obamacare has nothing to do with it.

 

[washunut]

Like most COBRA participants Jessica Stephens, a 29-year-old Chicagoan, pays the full cost of insurance sponsored by her former employer—$518 a month. Most employers include a 2 percent administrative fee.Stephens, who now makes about $25,000 working as a cook at a restaurant that doesn’t offer insurance, says she took a part-time job to pay her COBRA bill. She’s likely to qualify for exchange tax credits that would allow her to buy a policy starting in January for less than $200 a month.
“That’s wonderful. I would definitely take the exchange” once it becomes available, she said. “I thought I could squeeze by financially doing COBRA, but the last nine months have told me that’s not possible.”

Diving Mullah

Is there a point here??? Of course giving someone several thousand dollars is great for that person, but did that subsidy appear out of thin air, or does this just add to our debt problems.

It is so ironic that folks thought that medical costs were going to be the problem through Medicare now we add another layer to our problem.

How about a real answer to a real problem. Neither side has one, so junk like the above poses as an argument for a lousy solution to a problem many want addressed.

 

[Neomalthusian]

You mean the millions of workers that got their hours cut because of the Bush recession don't you? Because the rate has been falling since 2009 so Obamacare has nothing to do with it.

PPACA is a terrible policy, no matter how many times you repeat the phrase to yourself in your head "it's all because of Bush's Recession, it's all because of Bush's Recession."

 

[iguanaman]

PPACA is a terrible policy, no matter how many times you repeat the phrase to yourself in your head "it's all because of Bush's Recession, it's all because of Bush's Recession."

Read the graph if you are so smart. Lying about it will not make it fail, no matter how hard you try.

 

[Neomalthusian]

Read the graph if you are so smart. Lying about it will not make it fail, no matter how hard you try.

The graph about part time labor? That isn't the basis on which I'm calling PPACA the terrible policy that it is. Even Bill Clinton recognizes how unfair it is for middle class families by calling PPACA "obviously not fair" and "bad policy."

 

[humbolt]

The Uninsured After Implementation Of The Affordable Care Act: A Demographic And Geographic Analysis – Health Affairs Blog