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Obama vs. Nixon

Who is the more sinister liar?


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5000 Americans died because Bush lied about Iraq having WMD's that makes him the MOST sinister lying President in modern history. Not to mention the 3000 + that died because he thought the 911 hijackers were a Iraqi trick and ignored all the warnings. That makes him the most STUPID Liar too.
 

Now you're on to something, why on earth would any liberal/socialist to use your term hate Nixon when his policies were to the farthest left than any president since FDR? Nixon even gave FDR a run for his money as the most liberal president ever. Obama is down right conservative compared to Nixon. But it all boils down to the D and the R doesn't it? It doesn't matter how a president governs, left, right, center etc. It is the R and the D. The worst liar, in my long history of following politics, LBJ and Nixon would head the top of the list. Even Eisenhower lied at times. Carter was the most honest and truth teller and that hurt his presidency immensely. During Jimmy's time people were talking about him being too truthful for his own good.

But the bottom line is all presidents with perhaps the exception of Carter lie to achieve their political agenda. Most of the lies told are white lies or lies of exaggeration.
 
Zimmer is so desperate to make Obama look bad.

ROTFLOL... Obama has made himself look bad... I only bring it to this tiny group... reminds me of a joke... below..

Hatuey seems stumped for a response, so... deflection is the order of the day.
Ring, ring... Another order of Deflection for the Socialist at table 9.

Obama wakes up one morning and Michelle says... B'rack... you look awful.
B'rack says... odd... I feel great.
In the Oval Office, in comes Val JarHead and says... B'rack... you look awful...
B'rack says... odd... M'chelle said the same thing, but I feel grrrrreat!
In comes Carney to get the low-down on the lies of the day... and says Mr. President you look awful.
B'rack winging it (no teleprompter) says... odd... M'chelle and Val M'gal said the same thing, but I feel grrrrreat!
J. Carnage says... Mr. President, perhaps you should see the doc. (He's not on ObamaKare... he still has a plan.)
Doc swings by and Obama, reading the teleprompter says... Doc... M'chelle, Val M'gal... and and Carnage claim I look awful... but I feel Grrrrreat!
Doc says... well Mr. President you do look awful, let's see...
Doc pulls out his ipad (NSA watching of course) goes into his medical book... scrolls down the Table of Contents...
Looks great, feels great but not great.... hmmm... looks bad, feels bad...hmmm... OK... here... Looks awful... feels great...
Well Mr. President, the situation is this... you're a first class vagina!
 
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Nixon lied about much more than Watergate, when running for his second term he said he said he would end the war in Vietnam, he prolonged it.

Nixon Prolonged Vietnam War for Political Gain

I think you're wrong there. Nixon won his re-election in November of 1972 and the Paris Peace Accords were signed in January of 1973. A scant 2 months later. Kissinger did jump the gun when he declared peace was at hand a bit. But it was with the added incentive of Linebacker II.
 
Oh, I thought this might be a worthwhile poll about comparison Nixon to Obama. I see it is not.....
 

Let's see.. leaders around the world believed Saddam had WMD.
Hans Blix thought he had WMD.
Congress going back to Clinton thought he had WMD.
There were terrorists in Iraq.
Saddam did not disarm.
He threw out weapon inspectors.
He got a lot of cash selling oil illegally and corrupting the UN in one massive corruption scandal.

Senate Demokrats asked for and got a second vote to support the war.

Woodward in his book witnessed Bush grilling Tenet...

So sad to watch people deny themselves the truth... and for what? To defend a perverted ideology.
 
Is this another OMG OBAMA SUCKS topic? The dude is above average as a president.

But he's no Nixon. Probably the most savvy president about international relations the US has ever had. And since that's the main realm of of the executive branch...I'm a Nixon fan.
 
Oh, nevermind, I see this thread is just full of partisan idiots on both sides.

BUSH WUZ DA WURST!

NOWAI OBAMMER IZ DA WURST

You sound like children, I wish none of you could vote.
 
You are correct, it was when he was running in 1968.
 

A. Only to partisans. In reality expanding medicare costs the government more money than demanding everyone carry insurance.

B. Education "reform"...talk about hilarious.
 

Nixon began detente and one has to wonder if not for Watergate where that would have led to.
 
Hatuey seems stumped for a response, so... deflection is the order of the day.

There's nothing to deflect - you're so desperate you're try to bring Obama to the lowest level of American politics by comparing him to Republican scum. :shrug:
 
Bill Clinton, hands down
 
Nixon began detente and one has to wonder if not for Watergate where that would have led to.

If not for Watergate, Muskie runs against him in 72 instead of McGovern, and Nixon never sees a second term.

 
If not for Watergate, Muskie runs against him in 72 instead of McGovern, and Nixon never sees a second term.

Watergate really had nothing to do with the election of 1972. It was a very minor news story that wouldn't explode until later.
 
Ever since Nixon destroyed himself all by himself, republicans have been hell-bent on destroying, destroying the next three Democratic POTUSs just for starters..
 
A. Only to partisans. In reality expanding medicare costs the government more money than demanding everyone carry insurance.

B. Education "reform"...talk about hilarious.
You make a few mistakes here:
A) Data or it isn't true. If it is, I'll eat crow on that claim. However, you'll never convince me that the Medicare expansion hurts the country more than the ACA does.
B) What would you call it then? We had one education "system", it changed to a new one. Hence, "reformed".
C) You assume I supported Bush at any point, which I didn't. You probably think I voted for Romney as well huh?
 
C.) I could care less. My original statement still hold--Obama like Bush will fade away and become a footnote.
B.) No Child Left Behind is a joke. Reform is the last word I would consider for it.
A.)
 
Watergate really had nothing to do with the election of 1972. It was a very minor news story that wouldn't explode until later.

Do you really believe McGovern won that nomination because he was the best candidate the D's had in 1972? Really?
 
C.) I could care less. My original statement still hold--Obama like Bush will fade away and become a footnote.
B.) No Child Left Behind is a joke. Reform is the last word I would consider for it.
A.)
Give me a bit bro. Gotta go out for a while. I'll respond to this later.
 
Obama vs. Nixon.
Who is most sinister in their lying?

Benghazi. Americans died, Obama lied.
If you like your plan or doctor, you can keep your plan or doctor + you didn't listen American Idiots... I actually said "If you like your plan or doctor, you can keep your plan or doctor... AND...)

or

Covering for a 3rd rate burglary Nixon did not plan or approve, instead of letting them hang.
 
Do you really believe McGovern won that nomination because he was the best candidate the D's had in 1972? Really?

No, but I was looking at how the primaries went. The two January 72 primaries went to Muskie, in March Muskie won NH, Wallace took FL, Muskie ILL. You're man was looking good, then came April, McGovern took WI, ID and MASS while Humphrey won Penn. In May Humphrey won Ind with Wallace a very close second, humphrey won Ohio by 1 point over McGovern, Wallace took TN and NC, McGovern add NE, Humphrey WV, then Wallace won Maryland and Michigan. Wallace was shot in Maryland after taking 4 of the last 5. If he wasn't shot, Wallace had momentum and could have very well won the Democratic Nomination in 1972 instead of McGovern. After a very strong start, muskies last win was on March 21 in ILL. His momentum was spent.
 
Ever since Nixon destroyed himself all by himself, republicans have been hell-bent on destroying, destroying the next three Democratic POTUSs just for starters..

Oh my, I wonder what it was like in your classroom?

Did Republicans try to destroy Carter? No
Felonious Bill Clinton caused his own problems.
Obama said he'd be a uniter, said there was no red or blue America, just the US of A... and then on Day 1 tells R's they can't listen to Rush and get things done. Obama has lied about Benghazi, run guns to Mexico, slandered a cop as stupid, and lied, lied and lied about ObamaKare.

Demokrats ought to try running honest people.

Nixon or Obama... who is the more sinister liar?
 

Peace came in Vietnam because Congress refused any more funding, not because Nixon wanted it. Nixon won in 1968 because he had a "secret plan" to end the war...FIVE YEARS later when we surrendered the country to North Vietnam. There is no honor in anything Nixon did in Vietnam but plenty of shame.


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