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Obama to 'Netroots:' We have begun to deliver on change

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"In ways large and small, we've begun to deliver on the change you fought so hard for," Obama said. "And we're not finished."

President Obama addressed a group of generally supportive skeptics this week: Internet-based political activists known as "Netroots," some of whom have criticized Obama over such items as Afghanistan and the failure to create a truly government-run health care system.

"Change hasn't come fast enough for too many Americans, I know that," Obama said by video to a Netroots Nation convention in Las Vegas. "I know it hasn't come fast enough for many of you who fought so hard during the election."

But Obama added, "we've begun to deliver on the change we promised." His video included a review -- narrated by MSNBC's Rachel Maddow -- of such accomplishments as the health care bill, the stimulus bill and the recently signed Wall Street regulation bill.
http://content.usatoday.com/communi...netroots-we-have-begun-to-deliver-on-change/1

Like it or not guys, this President has done more in the first two years as President then most do in 2 terms. Maybe that's why the right thinks he's so radical? He gets **** done.

He's going to have a long, long list of accomplishments come election time.
 
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I think what irks the right the most is that we have a President which has managed to brush off the majority of weak attacks made on him. They couldn't attack people he associated with so they tried to paint him as a Muslim, they couldn't get him on race so they blamed him for the failures of the past government, they couldn't beat him with Palin or Steele so they tried to beat him with Jindal, they couldn't get with BP so they tried with edited videos. What did Obama do?

 
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Not to menton trying to attack his birth place.
 

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Obama is the greatest president of this generation.
 

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I think they need to build more momentum on all fronts and stop playing defence.
 

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Obviously a sycophantic thread for Obama.
 

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It's too bad that all the changes he's pulled through with (for the most part) are anti-constitutional. (that's anti as in antagonistic to the values of the constitution and bill of rights)
 

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It's too bad that all the changes he's pulled through with (for the most part) are anti-constitutional. (that's anti as in antagonistic to the values of the constitution and bill of rights)
I don't know what "anti-constitutional" means, but none of them are unconstitutional.
 

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I don't know what "anti-constitutional" means, but none of them are unconstitutional.
- Health care bill : Anti-ninth amendment, by taking federal control over something that is a state or county concern. It's also against the concept of a 'free-market' where people are now FORCED to purchase insurance whether they want it, need it, or even if they can afford it. This isn't even 'socialized medicine', because it's money going to private insurance companies...

- The stimulus bill : This goes completely counter the concept of a free-market... by dictating that these companies are 'too big to fail'... this was the same for any previous bailout... oh, also, I find it someone against american interests to have the majority of this 'stimulus' being shipped out of country, or used to move factories off-shore. Not to mention that it gave greater powers to the federal reserve, which is an unconstitutional institution to begin with.

- Wall street regulation : for all intents and purposes gives the federal reserve to eliminate any competing institution, because they make the rules now... These are all anti-freedom, pro-communism/fascism measures... I'm sure I could think of other examples.

- The arizona issue : Airzona's representatives pass a law to deal with criminals in their district that the feds weren't dealing with, they come to Obama begging for help, Obama responds by suing arizona on behalf of the illegal immigrants.... that is against the 11th amendment, however, the better word to describe this is treasonous.
 

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- Health care bill : Anti-ninth amendment, by taking federal control over something that is a state or county concern. It's also against the concept of a 'free-market' where people are now FORCED to purchase insurance whether they want it, need it, or even if they can afford it. This isn't even 'socialized medicine', because it's money going to private insurance companies...

- The stimulus bill : This goes completely counter the concept of a free-market... by dictating that these companies are 'too big to fail'... this was the same for any previous bailout... oh, also, I find it someone against american interests to have the majority of this 'stimulus' being shipped out of country, or used to move factories off-shore. Not to mention that it gave greater powers to the federal reserve, which is an unconstitutional institution to begin with.

- Wall street regulation : for all intents and purposes gives the federal reserve to eliminate any competing institution, because they make the rules now... These are all anti-freedom, pro-communism/fascism measures... I'm sure I could think of other examples.

- The arizona issue : Airzona's representatives pass a law to deal with criminals in their district that the feds weren't dealing with, they come to Obama begging for help, Obama responds by suing arizona on behalf of the illegal immigrants.... that is against the 11th amendment, however, the better word to describe this is treasonous.
I know its hard for you to deal with the fact that Obama is doing everything legal, but you can't simply paint everything you don't agree with as against the constitution. As for the health care bill, the mandate is authorized by congress's power to regulate interstate commerce. The mandate is a tax and thus it is completely legal.

Arguing that Obama is violating the constitution is a joke. The guy was a professor of constitutional law for 12 years. I've said it many times, you are never going to catch Obama violating the constitution.
 

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Ummm . . .

The mandate is either a regulation of interstate commerce, OR it's a tax. The one has nothing to do with the other. That you don't know that illustrates why you should not be making these sweeping pronouncements.

The Administration is, of course, claiming NOW that it's a tax, even though Obama argued tooth and nail that it wasn't when Stephanopoulos called him on it earlier this year. Square that with this:

Article 1, section 9 of the U.S. Constitution:

No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.


Of course, in order to do that, you have to know what all of it means; your answer should pretty much tell us whether you do or don't.

Also, this "tax" originated in the Senate, as it was the Senate bill taken up and passed by the House. Constitutionally, all taxes must originate in the House.
 

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That Obama bothers to video tape something for the most extreme left wing nutroots shows and proves he's an ideologe who knows where his bread is buttered. The moonbat gathering is his base. Glad to see it's no longer being denied.
 

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As for the health care bill, the mandate is authorized by congress's power to regulate interstate commerce.
You're kidding, right? Can you show me in the healthcare bill where purchase of insurance policies can be done across state lines now?

The mandate is a tax and thus it is completely legal.
Yet when he was pushing the damned thing, he stated that it positively was not a new tax. :roll:

Arguing that Obama is violating the constitution is a joke. The guy was a professor of constitutional law for 12 years. I've said it many times, you are never going to catch Obama violating the constitution.
OMG, quick! It's Christ Matthews' leg thrill again.
 

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He's Bush III on many issues so I'm not sure I'd go with "greatest president of a generation."

I'd say "Well, he's slightly better than the GOP but he's still presiding over massive corporate welfare."
 

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Like it or not guys, this President has done more in the first two years as President then most do in 2 terms.
This is true, but only if you're talking about raising the national debt.
 

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He hasn't delivered on his campaign promises, which were the entire reason people were so hyped to have him in office. After the abysmal Bush administration, Obama was setting himself up to be the country's reprieved, but IMO he is only a bit better than Bush.

I am very, very disappointed in Obama.
 

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Like it or not guys, this President has done more in the first two years as President then most do in 2 terms. Maybe that's why the right thinks he's so radical? He gets **** done.

He's going to have a long, long list of accomplishments come election time.




Please to be listing these things he has 'done moreso in the first two years'.... Thanks.
 

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Yeah, he's not done, till Nov 2010.
Then America get's to pass judgement on him, and in 2012 he gets to join Carter.
 

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Yeah, he's not done, till Nov 2010.
Then America get's to pass judgement on him, and in 2012 he gets to join Carter.
I can only hope that vision comes through.
 

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I know its hard for you to deal with the fact that Obama is doing everything legal,
Ya... I'll tell you how lawyers will do, they'll tell you that you lost the house, the car, the kids, but you won the mortgage, the debt and the alimony.... and if you're not happy they'll get pissed off at you and call you a **** client.

but you can't simply paint everything you don't agree with as against the constitution.
Actually, the constitution was the document that describes how to keep this country free... so whatever works against that personal freedom is at the least against the intent of the constitution, and the vision it's authors had for the country.

As for the health care bill, the mandate is authorized by congress's power to regulate interstate commerce.
Of course it's the commerce clause... figures. You could use the commerce clause to say that every grown adult must use diapers, because the sewage affects the commerce of another state.

It's a bastardization of the intention of the constitution.

The mandate is a tax and thus it is completely legal.
Ask yourself, why did Obama have to lie about that? Why is Obama so heartset on breaking his promise of 'no new taxes'??

Arguing that Obama is violating the constitution is a joke. The guy was a professor of constitutional law for 12 years. I've said it many times, you are never going to catch Obama violating the constitution.
No, he's just going to spin the constitution out of existance, and then enact the patriot act when the people start to get uppity about no longer living in a republic.

He studied 12 years looking for loopholes to get rid of the american constitution... which is somewhere between sedition and treason (if he's doing this on behalf of a foreign power).

I mean, Bush slaughtered the first amendment, the second amendment, the fourth and fifth amendments... but he did so 'legally' as well... doesn't make it right.

If you guys love communism so much, move to china, russia or north korea... Let us keep this republic. Then we'll both be happy.
 
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