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Obama: Suspended the Law in Consultation With "Businesses" (aka "My Donors")

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Obama: I Didn't Just Suspend the Law of the United States on My Own Authority; I Suspended the Law in Consultation With "Businesses" (aka "My Donors")

So, if I understand this right, so long as any future president has the support of "businesses" and donors for suspending parts of ObamaCare, he has the constitutional power to do so.

I'll take that precedent. Makes things easier than I thought they would be, actually.

I think if a Republican is elected in 2016, he just might have support in the business and corporate community for suspending all elements of ObamaCare.

There was one question on this, from Ed Henry, and no follow-ups from anyone else.

The media, the alleged "Watchdogs of Democracy," apparently believes it is a fairly unobjectionable statement that the president may suspend the law on his own authority as he may see politically fit, so long as he has the blessing of what I'm going to call The Corporate Congress.


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So when did businesses gain the same powers as congress? and you call Republicans cooperate hacks
 

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Obama: I Didn't Just Suspend the Law of the United States on My Own Authority; I Suspended the Law in Consultation With "Businesses" (aka "My Donors")

So, if I understand this right, so long as any future president has the support of "businesses" and donors for suspending parts of ObamaCare, he has the constitutional power to do so.

I'll take that precedent. Makes things easier than I thought they would be, actually.

I think if a Republican is elected in 2016, he just might have support in the business and corporate community for suspending all elements of ObamaCare.

There was one question on this, from Ed Henry, and no follow-ups from anyone else.

The media, the alleged "Watchdogs of Democracy," apparently believes it is a fairly unobjectionable statement that the president may suspend the law on his own authority as he may see politically fit, so long as he has the blessing of what I'm going to call The Corporate Congress.


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So when did businesses gain the same powers as congress? and you call Republicans cooperate hacks
It's corporate capitalism, this model has been pushed for some time and the Republocrats love it. It's why the Courts rule in favor of political speech for corporations, but limit the individual. Corporate Capitalism is one of the hallmarks of a Fascist State.
 

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It's corporate capitalism, this model has been pushed for some time and the Republocrats love it. It's why the Courts rule in favor of political speech for corporations, but limit the individual. Corporate Capitalism is one of the hallmarks of a Fascist State.
first Corporations where not given any more rights to political speech then an individual
second you have no clue on Fascist economics because there is no set fascist economic ideology if anything most Fascist dictators economic systems where more closely related to socialism then capitalism

Historians and other scholars disagree on the question of whether a specifically fascist type of economic policies can be said to exist. Baker argues that there is an identifiable economic system in fascism that is distinct from those advocated by other ideologies, comprising essential characteristics that fascist nations shared.[1] Payne, Paxton, Sternhell, et al. argue that while fascist economies share some similarities, there is no distinctive form of fascist economic organization.[2] Feldman and Mason argue that fascism is distinguished by an absence of coherent economic ideology and an absence of serious economic thinking. They state that the decisions taken by fascist leaders can not be explained within a logical economic framework
Economics of fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer
Fascism: The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics | Library of Economics and Liberty

I swear i need to start charging tuition for educating the un and misinformed
 

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first Corporations where not given any more rights to political speech then an individual
second you have no clue on Fascist economics because there is no set fascist economic ideology if anything most Fascist dictators economic systems where more closely related to socialism then capitalism



Economics of fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Fascism: The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics | Library of Economics and Liberty

I swear i need to start charging tuition for educating the un and misinformed
Mussolini himself said that fascism is better summarized as the corporate state. Not so many years ago the SCOTUS rejected corporate spending limits on political spending, the restructuring of McCain-Feingold lifted limitations on the corporation, while upholding those against the individual.

You can charge tuition if you want, but who wants to go to an unaccredited university? Bet you teach young earth creationism instead of science there too. What a rip off.
 

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Mussolini himself said that fascism is better summarized as the corporate state. Not so many years ago the SCOTUS rejected corporate spending limits on political spending, the restructuring of McCain-Feingold lifted limitations on the corporation, while upholding those against the individual.

You can charge tuition if you want, but who wants to go to an unaccredited university? Bet you teach young earth creationism instead of science there too. What a rip off.
and the corporations were in direct control of the state, it is socialism with a middle man


Mussolini’s corporate state “consider[ed] private initiative in production the most effective instrument to protect national interests” (Basch 1937, p. 97). But the meaning of “initiative” differed significantly from its meaning in a market economy. Labor and management were organized into twenty-two industry and trade “corporations,” each with Fascist Party members as senior participants. The corporations were consolidated into a National Council of Corporations; however, the real decisions were made by state agencies such as the Instituto per la Ricosstruzione Industriale, which held shares in industrial, agricultural, and real estate enterprises, and the Instituto Mobiliare, which controlled the nation’s credit
Fascism: The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics | Library of Economics and Liberty

you can send me a check
 
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