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Bless your heart.One must look, that one might see.
No. I assert, quite rationally, that any entity that denies the nature of arithmetic is incompetent to approach more complex mathematics. We have a suicidal level of debt, and our arithmetically challenged pols wish to expand it far further. Barring deliberate malice, they can be capable of such acts only because they fail to grasp the most fundamental aspects of arithmetic.
Seriously, what possible use can appeals to higher math be when one fails to grasp that if Johnny has $10, one cannot steal $12 from him in order to pay off one's friends? This sort of realization is alien to the Federal Government.
I'm not wondering who shut down the government. I know it is some ideological nut wads who take Ayn Rand to heart. Whoa six whole weeks in a nation that has been around 200+ years.
They gave the President exactly what he wanted - a clean CR. The President came out and said "pass a clean CR, raise the debt limit, and I'll negotiate". They gave him an opportunity to put his money where his mouth was - and he backed off. Because his real intention here is to turn this to partisan advantage, and compromising when he can try to split the Republican party doesn't give him that.
Nope, because people are becoming more free to live their lives as they are.
A clean CR that includes opening the government back up. Which the republicans did not offer.
Like I said, they are children who don't care about governance.
People are suffering because of this shutdown and it needed to end last week.
People can dart about like butterflies singing peons to their freedoms, real and imaginary, sublime and perverse, until that not too distant future in which they discover that they are wholly owned by our creditors, or by hostiles that we haven't the power or will to resist.
the Left operates in denial of arithmetic
People are suffering because of this shutdown
On the contrary - the deal did indeed open the government back up.
Unlike Leader "why should I care if I can save a child" Reid and President "why should I sign a bill that would help people when doing so would take pressure off of Republicans" Obama?
Republicans are the only ones thus far that have offered any compromises in the name of good governance. I'm not saying they're great, and I'm sure not saying they are operating on a desirable model, but if you want to start pointing fingers around that town in the intention of finding out which party is demonstrably more dedicated to good governance....
Hey, I'm one of them. I'm supposed to be moving my family back to the states - but we are stuck here overseas until this thing opens up. My ability to get a job and take care of my family is getting chipped away at day by day by this thing. It's already cost me money, and will cost me more before it's over. That's why I want the damn President to stop acting like a petulant child and compromise like an adult.
They didn't give a **** about the kids with cancer or people trying to get into memorials; they just wanted to score political points.
I would say the rpesident is correct in doing what he did and I'll tell you why. Congress as a whole needs to think beyond partisan crap like 6 weeks. It's damn well known that this is just a delay on the GOP part and Dem part as well. We need a WHOLE budget and soluition, not just something that looks pretty on an election cycle of 2014.
The fact of the matter spending cuts need to happen, but they aren't going to happen as drastically as the tea party conservatives want. And I say that as someone who supports cuts. What the tea party wants is Ron Paul style cuts, it just isnt' going to happen in this short of time. While the Dems have failed to come up with the budget, the GOP has gone right along with it allowing it.
Bottom line is, there won't be DRASTIC cuts and the right needs to realize this. If they don't like it, use it as a point for the 2014 mid-term elections.
except the differences between what the democrats and republicans on the issue of creating a budget are as vast as the Marianas trench
Yes, they are. However, after 4 years, don't you think the government should have a budget?
yes but i think you have to lock the congress and senate inside their respective rooms and do not let them out until they have a budget, oh and cut their access to press conferences so they can focus on work and not pulling off stupid stunts.
I'm more of the favor of if they cannot come up with the budget in the time frame, all of them go without pay until they do and if they do not come up with one within a time frame of say 1 month, we hold elections for ALL members of congress.
Just to make matters worse. The right operates in denial of arithmetic as well.
vasuderatorrent
Tone it down. Atlas Shrugged was a book. It was intended to entertain not to grow the population of the mentally ill.
vasuderatorrent
The right does not. However, very many people who wrongly fancy themselves to be on the right do.
So you are not one of those conservatives that ignore the fact that Social Security is not a government function and the biggest drain on the United States budget?
You are not one of those conservatives that believe all of our financial problems would be solved by eliminating government waste?
You are not one of those conservatives that violently defends their right to gooble up government goodies but forbids anybody else from doing so?
You are not one of those conservatives that oppose higher taxes while protecting massive spending?
Conservatives really make me mad which is confusing because I am a conservative myself.
vasuderatorrent
No it did not, it would have increased the debt ceiling, but not open up the government. Your information is wrong, try getting information that doesn't come from biased, unreliable sites like the on you posted in the OP.
That is not what they said, you are just not presenting the facts at all
They both want a clean CR that opens the government
what they are against, and rightfully so, is the republicans putting up piecemeal legislation funding the government instead of funding the government as a whole.
That is just bad governance
and that was done for the sole purpose so they could put out those exact talking points you just parroted. It was a political maneuver and nothing more. They didn't give a **** about the kids with cancer or people trying to get into memorials; they just wanted to score political points.
I am as well; we were supposed to move last weekend but can't until the shutdown is over. We are getting a home loan from the USDA and our paperwork was at the very last stage when the shutdown started and it completely screwed us. We've lost money and we'll likely lose more because we are having to stay in the house we are renting, the rent costs more than our mortgage for the new house will be, until the shutdown is over. Plus the house we are renting is falling apart and the house we are moving into is very nice and isn't filled with mold, has adequate room for all of our pets, doesn't let water leak all over the garage floor when it rains, and the plumbing doesn't leak and ruin the ceiling in the room where our dog sleeps.
This is why I want the damn GOP to stop acting like petulant children and compromise like adults.
That is toned down.
I'm a history buff. I know all too well how quickly "normal life" can be obliterated in war, subjugation, and ruin. As a society, we've traded a willingness to face harsh realities with limited resources and the assurance that progress is bought with pain and suffering for childish illusions in which evil and want can be magically erased.
Need I list all the societies that thought themselves permanent, stable and secure and are dust now?
Just in case any of you are wondering who is actually responsible for the continuing on-going Govt. shut down, it's the guy who was offered literally everything he wanted, but for a shorter time, with the request that he pretty-please be willing to negotiate in the meantime on something - anything, and still said no ; because he thinks that the longer more people are in pain, the better off he does politically.
There you have it. The next time anyone in the Administration complains about the shutdown or coming debt limit, remind them that they value it less than the opportunity to perhaps divide some of their political opposition.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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