Obama or Hillary for President in 2008?

[Navy Pride]

This is for Dems, Lefties and Liberals:

 

[Kandahar]

I like Obama better than Hillary. I like Evan Bayh and Bill Richardson better than either of them though.

 

[Skip]

I like Bayh, Vilsack, and Obama. I like Warner, too, but he's not running.

So out of the two options, it's clearly Obama for me. In '04 I was an "anybody but Bush" voter in the election, in '08 it'll be "anybody but Hillary" in the caucas.

 

[Navy Pride]

I like Obama better than Hillary. I like Evan Bayh and Bill Richardson better than either of them though.

I agree, sadly Bayh and Richardson have no chance to win the democratic nomination.......

 

[Kandahar]

I agree, sadly Bayh and Richardson have no chance to win the democratic nomination.......

They're long shots at this point...but then, they don't have much name recognition outside of their states at this point. I wouldn't say that they have no chance, if they run good campaigns and do well in the primary debates.

 

[hipsterdufus]

I like Obama better than Hillary. I like Evan Bayh and Bill Richardson better than either of them though.

I like Obama too. Hillary would ive us more polarization, when the country needs unity.

Richardson has too much baggage. He lied about playing pro baseball? WTF?

 

[nort_12345]

neither of them have a chance. hillary is a woman and obama is black and muslim. the hicks down south and in parts of the mid west aren't going to vote for either of them. but, i would probably have to go w/ hillary. she has more experience, has more connections, and her husband is bill clinton so i doubt her politics are going to be much different from his.

nothing against obama though. i like him but i think hillary is going to win the primary.

but neither of them has a chance. the one that wins the democratic primary is going to loose some support from the people that voted for the other person in the primary. but hillary is more popular i believe.

hillary '08?

 

[Kandahar]

I like Obama too. Hillary would ive us more polarization, when the country needs unity.

Richardson has too much baggage. He lied about playing pro baseball? WTF?

If that's the worst thing he's ever done, I doubt it'll have much impact on his campaign.

Richardson seems like he would be a great candidate and a great president. He's a governor, he's from a swing state, he has an incredible amount of foreign policy experience, he's not a polarizing figure, and he seems genuinely interested in improving things instead of scoring political points.

 

[FierceEnigma12z]

I think Hillary is getting a little scared of Obama he is gaining some momentum on her.But if you look up things on Hillary...actual facts, she does not use legal mehods to do a lot of her campaigning and such.Sources can even confirm this.The dossier on Hillary Clinton book is a good read, and no its not pure right-wing made up crap, they have evidence to all their claims instead of just meaningless right-wing rants.She has been found to launder money and lie before.I'm not saying it's just her, politicians can be sneaky, I'm just saying...she'd never get my vote.

Unfortunately in American reality, because our country is afraid of something new or change when it comes to Presidents I have to say they both have a hard time getting into presidency because of what was stated above.Gender and color are unfortunately peoples one key factor.

 

[Skip]

neither of them have a chance. hillary is a woman and obama is black and muslim. the hicks down south and in parts of the mid west aren't going to vote for either of them.

Obama is a Christian. And think about this - the hicks that wouldn't vote for Obama/Hillary weren't going to vote Democratic in the first place, or are in unwinnable red states. Not a huge loss there compared to the jump in the female/African American vote we'd be getting across the board, including swing states.

 

[nort_12345]

Obama is a Christian. And think about this - the hicks that wouldn't vote for Obama/Hillary weren't going to vote Democratic in the first place, or are in unwinnable red states. Not a huge loss there compared to the jump in the female/African American vote we'd be getting across the board, including swing states.

oh, i didn't mean to put he was muslim. i got mixed up because i was also writing in a different thread about muslims.

but your right that some of the hicks are going to vote GOP anyway, but more people are going to vote for a white male almost anywhere especially in the south and in parts of the west.

we would only be getting either female or african american vote because only one if going to run for president (hopefully).

 

[Navy Pride]

They're long shots at this point...but then, they don't have much name recognition outside of their states at this point. I wouldn't say that they have no chance, if they run good campaigns and do well in the primary debates.

They are both moderates and the base of your party is controlled by the whacko left........They would not win one primary.Sad but true..........

 

[TurtleDude]

The MOONBATS shouldn't feel left out-

DENNIS KOOKCINICH has announced his run

Rosie O'Donnell has a better chance of winning MS AMERICA

 

[Kandahar]

They are both moderates and the base of your party is controlled by the whacko left........They would not win one primary.Sad but true..........

The wacko left? You mean the wacko left that just elected Jon Tester, Claire McCaskill, Bob Casey, and Jim Webb? The wacko left that almost got Harold Ford elected?

Just because Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly repeat that talking point over and over again doesn't mean that it's true. The average Democratic primary voter is much closer ideologically to Evan Bayh than to Nancy Pelosi.