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Obama lashes BP chief, media over oil disaster

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by Stephen Collinson – 1 hr 44 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AFP) – President Barack Obama said he would fire BP CEO Tony Hayward for flippant comments and lashed out at media "talking heads," ratcheting up his rhetoric on the 50th day of the US oil disaster.
As Obama Tuesday sought to contain further political damage over the greatest environmental calamity in US history, his top disaster aide reported more progress capturing oil spewing from a ruptured undersea well.
Hayward, whose sardonic English tones and comments, including a prediction that the Gulf spill would be "very, very modest," have irked some Americans, found himself directly in Obama's cross-hairs.
"He wouldn't be working for me after making any of those statements," Obama said on the NBC "Today Show," after being criticized for what pundits said was a too tepid reaction to the disaster.
Hayward has since apologized for his remarks.
Obama revealed he had not spoken to Hayward, since an explosion on the BP-operated Deepwater Horizon rig on April 20, saying there would be little point.
"When you talk to a guy like a BP CEO, he's going to say all the right things to me. I'm not interested in words. I'm interested in actions."
Obama lashes BP chief, media over oil disaster - Yahoo! News

Someone slap him, he's President of the USA, not CEO of the World.
 
He's not stating that he is in fact going to fire him. He's stating that if he was working for him, he would fire him.
You can't blame him for that.
 
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He's not stating that he is in fact going to fire him. He's stating that if he was working for him, he would fire him.
You can't blame him for that.

It's not eh place of the US President to say something like that. The point is he's not being Presidential at all. It's okay for a Jr. House member to shoot of remarks like this, even a rookie Senator. Leader of the Freeworld? No.
 
Standard Deuce rushing to defend all things Obama.

Standard Mr. V attacking Obama no matter what he does :) He could personally come and save you from a burning building and you'd probably still find a way to spin it against him ;)

Just kiddin buddy I luv yah :mrgreen:
 
It's not eh place of the US President to say something like that. The point is he's not being Presidential at all. It's okay for a Jr. House member to shoot of remarks like this, even a rookie Senator. Leader of the Freeworld? No.

Why not? Presidents have said far more bold things.
 
Why not? Presidents have said far more bold things.

"President George Bush has claimed he was told by God to invade Iraq and attack Osama bin Laden's stronghold of Afghanistan as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and a state for the Palestinians."

Yeah I'd say that borders on insanity,
 
Obama is not saying that he is going to fire the BP CEO, he is saying if he had the power to that he would. Personally I would do it too. BP is a hypocritical company that pushes that they are green, however reality shows that they care little for the environment. BP handled the spill horribly, and now America must pay for their incompetence. I don't blame Obama for his anger, and I support him on this.
 
It's not eh place of the US President to say something like that. The point is he's not being Presidential at all. It's okay for a Jr. House member to shoot of remarks like this, even a rookie Senator. Leader of the Freeworld? No.

And I'm sure that you would never dream of criticizing Obama for being too soft if he HADN'T made those remarks, right? Of course not. The purpose of this thread is obviously a principled objection to a president commenting on a business' affairs, rather than retarded partisan hackery. Carry on. :roll:
 
"President George Bush has claimed he was told by God to invade Iraq and attack Osama bin Laden's stronghold of Afghanistan as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and a state for the Palestinians."

Yeah I'd say that borders on insanity,

Source or it didn't happen...
 
And I'm sure that you would never dream of criticizing Obama for being too soft if he HADN'T made those remarks, right? Of course not. The purpose of this thread is obviously a principled objection to a president commenting on a business' affairs, rather than retarded partisan hackery. Carry on. :roll:

I don't think the Gov't should be involved as it is with the "Oil Spill". So far all that's done is muck things up even worse.
 
I don't think the Gov't should be involved as it is with the "Oil Spill". So far all that's done is muck things up even worse.

So you believe that we should rely solely on the morons who caused disasters in the first place to clean them up? I realize that at this late stage in the game, we might not have any choice for this oil spill. But as a general matter of policy, that's crazy. The government needs to be involved, and it needs better contingency plans for these sort of things...because for all we know, the same thing could happen again tomorrow.
 
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So you believe that we should rely solely on the morons who caused disasters in the first place to clean them up?
First off, never said that. Secondly, "morons who caused disasters in the first place". Do you know the CAUSE of the rig going down? Was it the fault of the BP Officials or an error on platform? Did I miss where the "Cause" was found??

Note I said "I don't think Gov't should be involved as it is" That does not say "I think Gov't should stay out of this entirely".

Strawman meet Kandahar... oh you two are dating, I see.

I realize that at this late stage in the game, we might not have any choice for this oil spill. But as a general matter of policy, that's crazy. The government needs to be involved, and it needs better contingency plans for these sort of things...because for all we know, the same thing could happen again tomorrow.

It could happen tomorrow, and the more we look to Gov't to solve the problems, the more they'll screw it up.
 
First off, never said that. Secondly, "morons who caused disasters in the first place". Do you know the CAUSE of the rig going down? Was it the fault of the BP Officials or an error on platform? Did I miss where the "Cause" was found??

If it was caused by an error on the platform, then it is still BP and/or Halliburton's fault. Workers are agents of the company that employs them.

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Note I said "I don't think Gov't should be involved as it is" That does not say "I think Gov't should stay out of this entirely".

Strawman meet Kandahar... oh you two are dating, I see.

How did I misrepresent what you said? You complained about Obama being the "CEO of the world," implying that his involvement is a bad thing. But OK, let's unassume for a moment: You don't want the government out entirely...you just want them LESS involved. So then I have the same question, just replace "rely solely" with "rely primarily."

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It could happen tomorrow, and the more we look to Gov't to solve the problems, the more they'll screw it up.

So then your solution *is* to rely primarily on the companies that create disasters to clean them up in the future? They are not motivated by preventing as much harm as possible; they are motivated by saving as much money as possible. Those two goals do not always overlap.
 
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It's not eh place of the US President to say something like that. The point is he's not being Presidential at all. It's okay for a Jr. House member to shoot of remarks like this, even a rookie Senator. Leader of the Freeworld? No.


Lemme get this straight, just so we're all clear on what you're saying:

During an interview, the President is not allowed to speak hypothetically or make an analogy to illustrate his opinion of a person's job performance?

So basically, a President can not use the word "if" in the conditional sense.

Shall we ban metaphors and rhetorical questions as well??
 
He's not stating that he is in fact going to fire him. He's stating that if he was working for him, he would fire him.
You can't blame him for that.

So True, So true, Obama is the PRESIDENT of the U.S.A. NOT THE CEO of the BP OIL COMPANY....
WHAT IN THE HELL IS HE SUPPOSE TO DO ???? Take a sub-marine or a dive under water and create a miracle of some sort... With all the lies and hiding the real facts of what's going on down under, WHO'S GOT SOME ANSWERS OR SOLUTIONS TO THIS RED LIGHT EMERGENCY !!!!
 
Standard Mr. V attacking Obama no matter what he does :) He could personally come and save you from a burning building and you'd probably still find a way to spin it against him ;)

Just kiddin buddy I luv yah :mrgreen:

PBO did something? When?!?
 
If it was caused by an error on the platform, then it is still BP and/or Halliburton's fault. Workers are agents of the company that employs them.



How did I misrepresent what you said? You complained about Obama being the "CEO of the world," implying that his involvement is a bad thing. But OK, let's unassume for a moment: You don't want the government out entirely...you just want them LESS involved. So then I have the same question, just replace "rely solely" with "rely primarily."



So then your solution *is* to rely primarily on the companies that create disasters to clean them up in the future? They are not motivated by preventing as much harm as possible; they are motivated by saving as much money as possible. Those two goals do not always overlap.

OMG!! Why do you keep throwing Halliburton into the mix? Seriously! Why?!? Do you think that Halliburton is the only srvice company to work on that rig?

Why aren't you tirading Cooper-Cameron? They built the BOP.
 
I will point out that this was simply "alleged" by a Palestinian official. If he said it or not is up for debate I suppose.

Rumor is as good as fact to a Liberal.
 
And war on false pretenses is absolutely acceptable to a conservative :)

All I can say to that is...:rofl!!!

Is that really the best response you have?

BTW, got any proof that it was on, "false pretenses"?
 
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