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Obama 'it took time to free the slaves"

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Talk about a stretch that goes beyond the pale,and showing massive audacity to compare the Trifecta Of Doom, Obama, Pelosi, Reid's, Socialist/Marxist agenda with freeing the slaves, and the struggle for civil rights.

What a load of BOVINE SCATOLOGY, in the first degree.

Obama has failed to learn one damn thing from his clear failures to do the right thing ever and he continues to ignore the will of the people, and lie after time and again being exposed.

He simply ignores the facts and goes on like he's way ahead it the polls rather than being able to just peak over the rim of the toilet where his poll numbers now reside, and he belongs.

I respect the office but not anyone who is into Black Liberation Theology, with it's anti-Constitution, anti-American, anti-Capitalism, and anti-white people teaching Obama sat through almost every week for 20 years.

 

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Well, MLK was of that tradition. And you misrepresenting things aside. What's the fundamental point? Getting **** done takes time. Do you dispute that?
 

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Well, MLK was of that tradition. And you misrepresenting things aside. What's the fundamental point? Getting **** done takes time. Do you dispute that?
When I read Councilman's post I noticed he called Obama's statement a stretch, and then he went on to make stretches of his own. Are you saying he's not aware that he did that? I thought it had to be intentional. Had to be.
 

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Talk about a stretch that goes beyond the pale,and showing massive audacity to compare the Trifecta Of Doom, Obama, Pelosi, Reid's, Socialist/Marxist agenda with freeing the slaves, and the struggle for civil rights.

What a load of BOVINE SCATOLOGY, in the first degree.

Obama has failed to learn one damn thing from his clear failures to do the right thing ever and he continues to ignore the will of the people, and lie after time and again being exposed.

He simply ignores the facts and goes on like he's way ahead it the polls rather than being able to just peak over the rim of the toilet where his poll numbers now reside, and he belongs.

I respect the office but not anyone who is into Black Liberation Theology, with it's anti-Constitution, anti-American, anti-Capitalism, and anti-white people teaching Obama sat through almost every week for 20 years.

But what better a way to get minorities to care about the upcoming election than to invoke slavery and race?
 

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Its not like he's descended partially from them or anything like that.
Those minorities, all racist and small minded. I bet this propaganda works on them!
 

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When I read Councilman's post I noticed he called Obama's statement a stretch, and then he went on to make stretches of his own. Are you saying he's not aware that he did that? I thought it had to be intentional. Had to be.
No, I think he likely did it on purpose. But I wanted him to answer the question.

Now, vanceMack and SE102, does anyone who mentions slavery do so for only the reason of moving minorites? Or is it possible that that and actual equality did and does take time?
 

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Its not like he's descended partially from them or anything like that.
Those minorities, all racist and small minded. I bet this propaganda works on them!
He's factually NOT...hes descended from a white mother and a polygamist Kenyan father who had lots of kids he abandoned and ignored. How his heritage relates is questionable. The fact that he is trying to use racism to stir up an otherwise unmotived electorate is pathetic.
 

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No, I think he likely did it on purpose. But I wanted him to answer the question.

Now, vanceMack and SE102, does anyone who mentions slavery do so for only the reason of moving minorites? Or is it possible that that and actual equality did and does take time?
Boo...you simply are not THAT naive or foolish. And thats part of the ideological discussion that is just mind numbing.
 

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He's factually NOT...hes descended from a white mother and a polygamist Kenyan father who had lots of kids he abandoned and ignored. How his heritage relates is questionable. The fact that he is trying to use racism to stir up an otherwise unmotived electorate is pathetic.
Hmmm. What about the fact, that you are calling this racism, when he is factual correct. Look in the ****ing mirror Vance. :2razz:
 

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Hmmm. What about the fact, that you are calling this racism, when he is factual correct. Look in the ****ing mirror Vance. :2razz:
Pete you are trying your silly failed racism tactic yet AGAIN? Boo isnt so naive or stupid to believe this wasnt a ploy to use racism. Boo isnt...

Oh...and for the record...I'm not CALLING it racism...I am saying he is USING racism to stir up an uninspired electorate. You bet...that I am stating unequivocally. He is using a tried a true democrat tactic. Do I need to post yet again the democrats strategy of using race to get people talking about race...racism...and anything BUT the fact that the democrats have added 24% to the national debt...that unemployment STILL is at 9.6% (and 19% actual)?
 
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Talk about a stretch that goes beyond the pale,and showing massive audacity to compare the Trifecta Of Doom, Obama, Pelosi, Reid's, Socialist/Marxist agenda with freeing the slaves, and the struggle for civil rights.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you completely mischaracterized what he's saying.

If you really buy into the 'socialism/Marxism' teaparty ignorance and far-right talking points, then I guess the speech, the historical context would be lost on you.

What a load of BOVINE SCATOLOGY, in the first degree.
My friend, everything bovine is in that Red Kool aide you're drinking. I'm disappointed in Obama for a number of reasons, but I also understand that it's a four-year deal, and like I did with W.'s war in Iraq, wait and see how it plays out.

Obama has failed to learn one damn thing from his clear failures to do the right thing ever and he continues to ignore the will of the people, and lie after time and again being exposed.
Just so you're clear -- we live in a Republic, Obama is the will of the people.

He simply ignores the facts and goes on like he's way ahead it the polls rather than being able to just peak over the rim of the toilet where his poll numbers now reside, and he belongs.
Reagan had the same numbers at this point in his Presidency.

I respect the office but not anyone who is into Black Liberation Theology, with it's anti-Constitution, anti-American, anti-Capitalism, and anti-white people teaching Obama sat through almost every week for 20 years.
You just contradicted yourself. You don't respect the office enough to do minimal fact-checking. You respect nothing except the sense of belonging you get from feeling fear and rage generated by far-right partisans.
 

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Pete you are trying your silly failed racism tactic yet AGAIN? Boo isnt so naive or stupid to believe this wasnt a ploy to use racism. Boo isnt...
Leave Boo out of this, You're just trying to triangulate. :roll:

Oh...and for the record...I'm not CALLING it racism...I am saying he is USING racism to stir up an uninspired electorate. You bet...that I am stating unequivocally. He is using a tried a true democrat tactic.
It seems to me that calling what he said as using racism is racism in itself.

Do I need to post yet again the democrats strategy of using race to get people talking about race...racism...and anything
I couldn't care less what you do.

BUT the fact that the democrats have added 24% to the national debt...that unemployment STILL is at 9.6% (and 19% actual)?
Blame it on George W. Bush.
 

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Well, MLK was of that tradition. And you misrepresenting things aside. What's the fundamental point? Getting **** done takes time. Do you dispute that?
MLK FYI was a Conservative Repulican in direct contrast to the Socialist/Marxist and Leader of the Trifecta of Doom, Obama.

Obama is rooted in Black Liberation Theology which is you could read and comprehend the English language you would know it is anti-American, anti-Constitution, anti-Capitalism, and anti white.

For him to invoke civil rights and ending slavery with destructive agenda is like you saying I misrepresent things. That is typical of you to try to obfuscate away from facts and the truth

It is clear that a limited ability to understand the English language, and a lack of ability to make a cogent even semi-intelligent responses dictates that people lees fortunate rely on attempting to baffle with Bovine Scatology
 

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Leave Boo out of this, You're just trying to triangulate. :roll:


It seems to me that calling what he said as using racism is racism in itself.


I couldn't care less what you do.


Blame it on George W. Bush.
Nope...cant help but include the comparison of someone that is actually smart enough to know better vs someone that...well..Hi Pete...

Shouldnt you have waited at least until Media Matters posted some sort of talking points for you to echo? I mean...I know this doesnt have Glenn Beck somehow attached to it (yet)...and so its hard for you to actually comment on it...

Simple fact Obama and company are pissed off that the liberals are staying home (they have as much as said so) and are using ANY and every tactic to try to get people to the polls. Its only just begun.
 
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Nope...cant help but include the comparison of someone that is actually smart enough to know better vs someone that...well..Hi Pete...
Is that an ad homonym, Vance?

Shouldnt you have waited at least until Media Matters posted some sort of talking points for you to echo? I mean...I know this doesnt have Glenn Beck somehow attached to it (yet)...and so its hard for you to actually comment on it...
You're hilarious Vance.

Simple fact Obama and company are pissed off that the liberals are staying home (they have as much as said so) and are using ANY and every tactic to try to get people to the polls. Its only just begun.
It's the conservatives that use vote suppression to keep low income people to stay away from the polls. They use every tactic in order to accomplish this - caging is one of them.
 

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I'd say Vance is right on the mark here. It's obvious. Anyway no matter, nothing Obama can say will get their lazy arses out twice in two years.. LOL

It gets cold in the northeast this time of year.. :)


Tim-
 

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Blame it on George W. Bush.
Pete...I love ya...but that line is old and moldy. BHO was hired to do the job. He hasnt done anything but dug us deeper into debt and made the problems worse. All of the democrats...their problem is...they dont THINK. They didnt think "fix the economy"; instead they thought "pass every social spending bill we can pass and to hell with the cost" and trhe economy responded negatively.

And while you remain stuck on your blame George Bush bull****...how many years now have the democrats controlled the house AND the senate and every spending bill to be signed by EITHER president?
 

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Is that an ad homonym, Vance?
You're hilarious Vance.
It's the conservatives that use vote suppression to keep low income people to stay away from the polls. They use every tactic in order to accomplish this - caging is one of them.
Im a laugh riot...and you are an ideological one trick pony. The DEMOCRATS are the one out there pissed at the liberal voters for not voting. John Kerry called you stupid. Biden called you mindless. Obama is upset at your impatience. The poll numbers ALL indicate liberal voters are losing hope. SO stop pretending its anything other than what it is.

With all the liberal spending...how many liberals have benefitted? Where that pot, let alone the chicken to put in it? Where is the free health care? Where are the jobs? How come Obama hasnt paid your mortgage, paid your bills, aftewr all...you took care of him he was supposed to take care of you.

All they have done is dug a 24% deeper hole with no end in sight. And baby...the people...the ones that arent so lost in their ideology that they can actually SEE...the PEOPLE are getting fed up. FINALLY...
 

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Pete...I love ya...but that line is old and moldy. BHO was hired to do the job. He hasnt done anything but dug us deeper into debt and made the problems worse. All of the democrats...their problem is...they dont THINK. They didnt think "fix the economy"; instead they thought "pass every social spending bill we can pass and to hell with the cost" and trhe economy responded negatively.m

And while you remain stuck on your blame George Bush bull****...how many years now have the democrats controlled the house AND the senate and every spending bill to be signed by EITHER president?
George W. Bush doubled the debt from $5 trillion to $10 trillion, but the debt isn't the problem with the economy, only a symptom. The reason the economy went south (during Bush's admin.) was the was because of the shenanigans done on Wall Street and the huge banks. very similar to what caused the Great (Republican) Depression.

Conservatives can't blame Obama what Bush did.
 

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George W. Bush doubled the debt from $5 trillion to $10 trillion, but the debt isn't the problem with the economy, only a symptom. The reason the economy went south (during Bush's admin.) was the was because of the shenanigans done on Wall Street and the huge banks. very similar to what caused the Great (Republican) Depression.

Conservatives can't blame Obama what Bush did.
And I never have blamed Obama for what Bush did and you know full well of course (since we have had this discussion several times now) that Bush's lack of fiscal accountability is why I left the party in 2003. That does NOT change the fact that the democrat controlled congress has presided over the last two years of the Bush presidency (and is responsible for every dime spent) as well as the first two of the Obama presidency and that while Bush authorized a 5 trillion dollar increase over EIGHT years Obama has already authorized 4 trillion in only two.

You STILL want to play this ridiculous partisan tit for tat bull****?

(edit-side note-'conservatives' didnt excuse Bush's spending. The Tea Party was formed DURING Bush's presidency in OPPOSITION to his spending...just so we are being you know...fully open and honest...)
 
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And I never have blamed Obama for what Bush did and you know full well of course (since we have had this discussion several times now) that Bush's lack of fiscal accountability is why I left the party in 2003. That does NOT change the fact that the democrat controlled congress has presided over the last two years of the Bush presidency (and is responsible for every dime spent) as well as the first two of the Obama presidency and that while Bush authorized a 5 trillion dollar increase over EIGHT years Obama has already authorized 4 trillion in only two.

You STILL want to play this ridiculous partisan tit for tat bull****?

(edit-side note-'conservatives' didnt excuse Bush's spending. The Tea Party was formed DURING Bush's presidency in OPPOSITION to his spending...just so we are being you know...fully open and honest...)
Vance, the problem with the economy has nothing to do with the debt or deficit, it has everything to with Wall Street and the Banks. Selling worthless collateralized mortgages, credit default swaps and various dubious financial instruments. This happened during the Bush administration.
 

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Vance, the problem with the economy has nothing to do with the debt or deficit, it has everything to with Wall Street and the Banks. Selling worthless collateralized mortgages, credit default swaps and various dubious financial instruments. This happened during the Bush administration.
We all know we can trace the deregulation legislation back a wee bit further than Bush, dont we Pete. And sure...blame the banks...because the banks are the ones that made people overextend, buy homes they couldnt afford, get into ARMs. ANd Barney Frank and the dmes had NOTHING to do with Fannie and Freddie did they...

Like I said, brother...you are a one trick pony.
 

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Vance, the problem with the economy has nothing to do with the debt or deficit, it has everything to with Wall Street and the Banks. Selling worthless collateralized mortgages, credit default swaps and various dubious financial instruments. This happened during the Bush administration.
The only people that toss out this tirade wither know nothing about economics or are hapless partisans.
 

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and m. Obama is right. it DID take a hell of a long time. Anti-slavery sentiments were strong when the nation was first being considered. there were strong anti-slavefy proponents at the 1st C.C. but... they were were rebuffed time and time again by the "just say no" greedheads of THAT time who threatened to block any progress if the right to make money on the labor of others was denied them.

money over morality THEN... money over morality NOW. same old conservative chant.

geo.
 

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and m. Obama is right. it DID take a hell of a long time. Anti-slavery sentiments were strong when the nation was first being considered. there were strong anti-slavefy proponents at the 1st C.C. but... they were were rebuffed time and time again by the "just say no" greedheads of THAT time who threatened to block any progress if the right to make money on the labor of others was denied them.

money over morality THEN... money over morality NOW. same old conservative chant.

geo.
Doesn't this morally superior "thinking" get a bit old.
 
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