Obama issues a dire warning about American democracy in stunning rebuke of Trump

[99percenter]

And since when does a former president give a convention speech condemning the current president. G. Bush never did that. Say what you want about the man as president, but he has more class in his little finger than Obama has in his whole body.

Obama's whole "above the fray" and "grand uniter" schtick during the 2008 election was such a ****ing con. He's as partisan as they come.

bush has commended the current president many times.

 

[ReubenSherr]

5 bucks says that every living ex president will vote for Joe Biden.

I think you’re reading too many New York Times articles

 

[Guyzilla]

And faking up the evidence to get FISA warrants to spy on him. Was that just being dilligent?

And not telling Trump they were spying on his administration and foreign policy advisors. Was that diligence?

And Obama having knowledge and directing the spying on Trump. Was he just being diligent?

This is the stuff of one-party dictatorships, not democracies. Obama talking about Trump being a threat to democracy is surreal.

That is old testament. We are on to the NEW TESTAMENT. The RUBIO senate report tells who is on what side.

 

[ReubenSherr]

A magnificent speech by former president Barack Obama. He correctly framed this election as a battle in which our democracy itself is at stake.

Mr. Obama did not pull any punches, directly blaming the COVID deaths of 170,000 Americans on Donald Trumps ineptness and apathy.

Apathy? Trump has been working his ass off the entire time. Unlike Obama, who was all talk, very little action.

Comparing COVID to Ebola is ridiculous.

Let’s compare Trump’s handling of COVID to Obama’s handling of Muslim Extremist Terrorism, or Obama’s handling of the recession, which were both abysmal. And why Trump won 4 years ago.

Obama is a talented speaker.

Unfortunately, Obama is not your candidate.

 

[CaughtInThe]

I think you’re reading too many New York Times articles

it's just common sense. the ex presidents have sat in that seat and know Trump is unqualified and a nut job. anyone who is sane does.

it's only the most dedicated (like yourself) political guys (who defend sleazy ass politician Trump at any cost) who can't see it. and we all know why.

 

[swing_voter]

From the Philadelphia ground where the American experiment was born, one former president -- in a stunning prime-time address to the nation he once led -- warned that his successor was on the cusp of destroying democracy itself.




General Mattis, Trump's Secretary of Defense for two years, said much the same. He said Trump was a threat to the Constitution.

If you've ever sworn an oath to defend the Constitution, and you vote for Trump, you're breaking your oath.

 

[MSgt]

In Trump's defense, Obama is a big reason why Trump is president.

Not true at all. Radical right-wing propaganda about Obama is why Trump is president.

Over half of the Republicans in 2017 still believed that Obama was an African-born Muslim with sympathies towards terrorism. And neo-Nazis and white supremacists were very clear at 2016 Trump rallies about how it was time to be represented again. Without Obama, the radical right-wing would have still blasted the public with irrational excuses to develop a seething hatred for whatever they call "the left" at any given moment.

Ask any conservative why they hate Obama so much and they will offer you nonsense and conspiracies, just to avoid the racial truth, while denying documented facts about Trump. Thus, irrational hatred, encouraged by radical right-wing propaganda, is why Trump was elected. Nothing more. And look at that, Trump rode a wave of irrational hatred and immature denigration right to the White House. He denigrated American POWs, women, the handicapped, immigrants, and minorities. All of these, save the American POW, is a favorite target for the radical right-wing; and it was because Trump boldly denigrated the rest that conservatives allowed his denigration of the military.

I wonder when Hillary is going to get "locked up" for her underground sex slave ring thing that she runs from pizza parlors. This is the type of nonsense that sees a national traitor like Trump worshiped. They support Trump by ignoring Trump and clinging to irrational hatred for what they have been told is "the left."

 

[ReubenSherr]

it's just common sense. the ex presidents have sat in that seat and know Trump is unqualified and a nut job. anyone who is sane does.

You do understand that the NYT reported that Bush wasn’t going to vote for Trump.

And Bush has to come out and tell the NYT they were wrong. And had used a bad source.

 

[CaughtInThe]

You do understand that the NYT reported that Bush wasn’t going to vote for Trump.

And Bush has to come out and tell the NYT they were wrong. And had used a bad source.

I didn't.

That proves my post though. Which other living president would vote for him?

 

[JMaximus]

Obama issues a dire warning about American democracy in stunning rebuke of Trump

A magnificent speech by former president Barack Obama. He correctly framed this election as a battle in which our democracy itself is at stake.

Mr. Obama did not pull any punches, directly blaming the COVID deaths of 170,000 Americans on Donald Trumps ineptness and apathy.

Related: [url=''https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barack-obama-called-out-donald-trump-in-his-dnc-speech-and-the-current-president-was-not-happy/ar-BB18aTO6"]Barack Obama called out Donald Trump in his DNC speech[/url]

Despicable.

The Fascist Left will stop at little to regain power.

 

[Luce]

Despicable.

The Fascist Left will stop at little to regain power.

Life is very hard sometimes. The wearing of hats is suggested.

 

[ReubenSherr]

I didn't.

That proves my post though. Which other living president would vote for him?

What are you talking about?

Bush.

The only other living Republican President.

 

[CaughtInThe]

What are you talking about?

Bush.

The only other living Republican President.

so i go to that Google thing and find this. is there something more recent?


“This is completely made up,” Ford said in an email to the Texas Tribune. “He is retired from presidential politics and has not indicated how he will vote.”

 

[MSgt]

Apathy? Trump has been working his ass off the entire time. Unlike Obama, who was all talk, very little action.

Comparing COVID to Ebola is ridiculous.

Let’s compare Trump’s handling of COVID to Obama’s handling of Muslim Extremist Terrorism, or Obama’s handling of the recession, which were both abysmal. And why Trump won 4 years ago.

Obama is a talented speaker.

Unfortunately, Obama is not your candidate.

Good God, what a bunch of absolute stupidity.

1) Obama widened the war against terrorists by launching drones into sovereign territory that even Bush refrained from doing. You so-called conservatives even criticized him for it. And then when he gave the green light to blast Osama Bin Laden, all you people could do was create a delusion that Obama was taking sole credit as if he himself was on the ground.

2) Trump inherited a good economy that involved a long repair of a global mess. Do I really need to show you the GDPs and graphs or will you just appreciate that you haven't a damn clue about what you are talking about?

Trump's handling of COVID involves not ****ing handling COVID and spending 56 days pretending that it was a hoax. With COVID being the third greatest killer in America already in just August, perhaps it's time to tune the idiot out. Trump won 4 years ago because the radical right-wing had managed to convince far too many Americans that the use of their brains was and continues to be anti-American. Tomato paste? No Global Warming? Underground sex shops in New York? Stupidity and radicalism saw to Trump's election; and even that needed the technicality of the Electoral College.

Even Bush has declared that he will not support Trump in November, because even Bush understands that Trump is a ****ing disaster on every level.

Do you know what the difference is between a Stalinist, who praises "the Party" over ideology, or a Nazi who praises "the Party" over ideology, and you? Seriously, I'm asking. Because the term "RINO" implies that Party matters above all else...even one's self-respect.

 

[ReubenSherr]

so i go to that Google thing and find this. is there something more recent?


“This is completely made up,” Ford said in an email to the Texas Tribune. “He is retired from presidential politics and has not indicated how he will vote.”

Are you talking about Gerald Ford?

He’s not alive.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Are you talking about Gerald Ford?

He’s not alive.

"Freddy Ford, a spokesman for Bush..."

 

[TheParser]

According to news reports of what he said, his comments were despicable. Former Presidents simply do not attack another President still in office.

He was, as usual, calm and cool and collected.

What was missing was class.

 

[RealityNow]

The Devoted Racist who try to hide under the word Conservatives will run from this Thread, Because "their own savagery of self" won't allow them to learn, because they are devoted to the savagery of racism as their self measure in life. They follow Trump because he exemplifies the type and level of savage they seek to be, and he does the type of savagery they themselves want to do..
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Obama issues a dire warning about American democracy in stunning rebuke of Trump

A magnificent speech by former president Barack Obama. He correctly framed this election as a battle in which our democracy itself is at stake.

Mr. Obama did not pull any punches, directly blaming the COVID deaths of 170,000 Americans on Donald Trumps ineptness and apathy.

Related: [url=''https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barack-obama-called-out-donald-trump-in-his-dnc-speech-and-the-current-president-was-not-happy/ar-BB18aTO6"]Barack Obama called out Donald Trump in his DNC speech[/url]

The Post Thread and Post Comment I have been writing on here since I've been on here... has been taking about "everything" that President Obama summarized in his Speech.
It mirrors what Each of the DNC Speakers have said... and within this site, I'm sure many take what is said without regard, but it speaks about these very same things, and I go into discussion the race elements that working poor and poor whites have been trained not to learn about, and I also address how they have been trained to damage their own lives, by making racism the core of their concepts about self and attaching their self value based on such ignorance.

The even more insidious part, is many of these people rave about being Christians,... yet, they put racism above respect for God, because God's Words says:

Matthew 7:12; "So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
(Racism has no place within that)

Romans 13:8-10; "Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."
(Racism has no place within that, nor does the long history of savage driven racist violence upon people because of skin color, ethnicity or country of origin))

Romans 15:2
Let each of us please his neighbor for his good, to build him up.

1 Peter 4:8
Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.

No person who believe and honor God's words.. would promote nor be driven by racism.

KKK, claim to be so christian, yet, they "set fire to the cross"... they claim to want to protect their women, yet, don't respect their women to make her own choice about who she wants to live her life with. They don't respect her to make choice as to whom she dates, or whom she associate with. They did not stand up for the rights of women to vote, and still to this day, they want to tell women what she can do with her body. "That IS NOT protecting their women, that is repressing, suppressing and depressing and oppressing her... !!!
They disgrace the premise and principle of religion, by trying to pretend to be for God, yet, they are devoted promoters of evil, vindictiveness, and hatred of other people whom God created.

They are "Savages"... (and one simply has to understand and know what a Savage is):

SAVAGE: lacking the restraints normal to civilized human beings FIERCE, FEROCIOUS lacking complex or advanced culture : UNCIVILIZED not domesticated or under human control : UNTAMED

 

[RealityNow]

According to news reports of what he said, his comments were despicable. Former Presidents simply do not attack another President still in office.

He was, as usual, calm and cool and collected.

What was missing was class.

If you believe that, then you should also have believed that a sitting President does not denigrate former Presidents.... nor does he spend 'every day" attacking the majority of Americans because they won't devote themselves to him like some cult member... and certainly not ever to go on a world stage and praise a Adversary like Putin while putting down and denigrating American Past President.

Besides, if you rely on the news commentators to tell you how to interpret what you can listen to for yourself... that's all on you. Did you expect right wing media to do anything other than try and denigrate what he said, when he told the truth about the savage driven man that is damaging America and American Democracy and the American system of Representative Governance that Democracy Principles created.

It's evident you don't know what "Class" is.. because your context is so far off base, that all you are doing is parroting Right Wing Media's Mentality.

 

[DiAnna]

I'm not sure what your point is. Mueller's investigation showed no evidence of Russian collusion. It exonerated Trump.

No, it explicitly did not.

Robert Mueller Reiterates He Would Have Said if President Trump Was Exonerated—But He Didn't

 

[eman623]

No, it explicitly did not.

Robert Mueller Reiterates He Would Have Said if President Trump Was Exonerated—But He Didn't

Occam's razor. It didn't prove Trump is not a space alien from the planet Zarquon V either.

The onus is on the person making the claim to prove it. Not the accused to prove it's not true.

 

[NWRatCon]

bush has commended the current president many times.

I expect if that is true one could provide citations.

 

[zyzygy]

He must live in an alternate universe. I've never heard such arrogance, and self-unawareness from a former president.

Trump has outdone him by claiming that God sent Covid to test his presidency. Now that is arrogance! God is killing all those people just to test me!

 

[zyzygy]

When the current President acts like a cruel, wannabe, authoritarian dictator who puts his own political career ahead that of democracy, the health and welfare of his fellow citizens, the Rule of Law, and the Republic itself.

And when the current president believes that he is a superman and god has sent Covid with the sole purpose of testing him.

 

[RetiredUSN]

No, fascist-loving right wing voters are why.

You and your friends are why we have a Orange Man in the Oval office.

You and your friends might get him reelected.