Obama has said David Cameron allowed Libya to become a 's*** show'

[zimmer]

Barack Obama has sharply criticised David Cameron for the UK’s role in allowing Libya to become a “**** show” after the fall of the dictator Muammar Gaddafi, in an unprecedented attack on a British leader by a serving US President.


Mr Obama said that following a successful military intervention to aid rebels during the 2011 Arab Spring revolt, Libya was left to spiral out of control – due largely to the inaction of America’s European allies.


In a candid US magazine interview, Mr Obama said: “When I go back and I ask myself what went wrong… there’s room for criticism, because I had more faith in the Europeans, given Libya’s proximity, being invested in the follow-up.”

Singling out the British Prime Minister, he suggested that Mr Cameron had taken his eye off Libya after being “distracted by a range of other things”.

Barack Obama says David Cameron allowed Libya to become a 's*** show' | UK Politics | News | The Independent

Typical Obama... he farks up (Libya, Iraq, Syria, Shovel Ready Jobs, Economy, releasing terrorists, ObamaKare, race issues...) and it's all news to him... either he doesn't know, heard it from the news... so it's news to him, or it's the fault of someone else.

There is now a 7-year history of incompetence and prevarication on the part of Barack Hussein Obama...

... his presidency can be summed up in one word... Pathetic.

 

[JayDubya]

Typical Obama... he farks up (Libya, Iraq, Syria, Shovel Ready Jobs, Economy, releasing terrorists, ObamaKare, race issues...) and it's all news to him... either he doesn't know, heard it from the news... so it's news to him, or it's the fault of someone else.

There is now a 7-year history of incompetence and prevarication on the part of Barack Hussein Obama...

... his presidency can be summed up in one word... Pathetic.

Wouldn't it be more thematically appropriate to sum it up with a different word...

i.e. "****show?"


You're welcome.

 

[Montecresto]

Typical Obama... he farks up (Libya, Iraq, Syria, Shovel Ready Jobs, Economy, releasing terrorists, ObamaKare, race issues...) and it's all news to him... either he doesn't know, heard it from the news... so it's news to him, or it's the fault of someone else.

There is now a 7-year history of incompetence and prevarication on the part of Barack Hussein Obama...

... his presidency can be summed up in one word... Pathetic.

That's funny, most wingers like that Obama took out Gadaffi. And since when have the wingers concerned themselves with the plight of a country after we've finished and withdrawn our military. Just another opportunity to jump on Obama. Do you know who UN1973 charged with the follow up responsibility in Libya?

 

[Abbazorkzog]

I'm so sick and ****ing tired of big nations thinking they can bully and scapegoat little ones. This **** has got to stop. The U.S. and our government are NOT special and have NO ****ING RIGHT TO POINT FINGERS!

What a hypocrite, right when I was starting to like him again. -facedesk-

 

[OrphanSlug]

I agree with others here. It is very hypocritical of the US to be critical of other nations for their handling of Libya when considering all of our various actions throughout the Greater Middle East and Africa in recent decades.

We have no room to talk to others about success in toppling some terrible dictator, only to find the nation left behind ends up in division, massive loss of life, refugee crisis, humanitarian fiasco, and basically... chaos.

 

[Grant]

Typical Obama... he farks up (Libya, Iraq, Syria, Shovel Ready Jobs, Economy, releasing terrorists, ObamaKare, race issues...) and it's all news to him... either he doesn't know, heard it from the news... so it's news to him, or it's the fault of someone else. There is now a 7-year history of incompetence and prevarication on the part of Barack Hussein Obama...... his presidency can be summed up in one word... Pathetic.

Worse than 'pathetic'. He's the most dangerous US President ever and will leave the United States, and the world, far worse off since he took office. Whoever voted for this fool should withhold their vote for the next 20 years in order that the country might recover and undo the damage he has done.

 

[Grant]

That's funny, most wingers like that Obama took out Gadaffi. And since when have the wingers concerned themselves with the plight of a country after we've finished and withdrawn our military. Just another opportunity to jump on Obama. Do you know who UN1973 charged with the follow up responsibility in Libya?

Taking out Qaddafi was just as bad as removing the troops in 2011, drawing the Red Line in Syria, abandoning the men in Libya, and supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. This dumbass has done nothing right.

Of course domestically there is also the 'unpatriotic' $20 trillion in debt.

 

[lpast]

I agree with others here. It is very hypocritical of the US to be critical of other nations for their handling of Libya when considering all of our various actions throughout the Greater Middle East and Africa in recent decades.

We have no room to talk to others about success in toppling some terrible dictator, only to find the nation left behind ends up in division, massive loss of life, refugee crisis, humanitarian fiasco, and basically... chaos.

That about sums it up for me also

 

[humbolt]

Absolutely Cameron's fault. We are powerless. Cameron screwed up the roll out of the ACA too. All those faulty airbags? You got it - Cameron.

 

[Samhain]

It's always someone else's fault.

 

[Grant]

Absolutely Cameron's fault. We are powerless. Cameron screwed up the roll out of the ACA too. All those faulty airbags? You got it - Cameron.

More of the same. It's always someone else's fault. Is there any real doubt that Hillary will bring more of the same?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DpBwmN66As

 

[zimmer]

More of the same. It's always someone else's fault. Is there any real doubt that Hillary will bring more of the same?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DpBwmN66As

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Vast Right Wing Conspiracy anyone?

Had Viagra been on the market back then Hillary would have claimed some nefarious Republicans had his food spiked with it.

 

[Erod]

When lawyers and academicians get to make war decisions......

 

[Vern]

Sorry guys, you can point to Libya and call it whatever you want. We had a clear and limited role there: A well funded and organized rebellion asked us for help and we provided it. We gave them the opportunity to create a democratic Libya. If the parties there decided to fight among themselves, that’s on them. They have had two elections. Libya is no where near the ****storm Iraq is. And of course the OP blames President Obama for Iraq and the usual conservative whines. Its just more the of inability of conservatives to ever have an honest and intelligent discussion of anything concerning President Obama.

And as far as right wingers supporting our action in Libya, not really. There was no real push from the right. And this forum is rife with gadhaffi apologists trying to rewrite history. See below.

 

[Grant]

Had Viagra been on the market back then Hillary would have claimed some nefarious Republicans had his food spiked with it.

You've just given me an idea!

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Sorry guys, you can point to Libya and call it whatever you want. We had a clear and limited role there: A well funded and organized rebellion asked us for help and we provided it. We gave them the opportunity to create a democratic Libya. If the parties there decided to fight among themselves, that’s on them. They have had two elections. Libya is no where near the ****storm Iraq is. And of course the OP blames President Obama for Iraq and the usual conservative whines. Its just more the of inability of conservatives to ever have an honest and intelligent discussion of anything concerning President Obama.

And as far as right wingers supporting our action in Libya, not really. There was no real push from the right. And this forum is rife with gadhaffi apologists trying to rewrite history. See below.

Libya was a war of choice that once completed left a vaccume which we all see what happens..... You all broke that ****, just like the republicans broke Iraq, own it.

 

[Mason66]

I am sure this statement solidified the US and Britain's relationship.

This is another thing the next President will have to fix.

 

[Vern]

Libya was a war of choice that once completed left a vaccume which we all see what happens..... You all broke that ****, just like the republicans broke Iraq, own it.

we definitely broke Iraq and we definitely left a vacuum that we own because we forced regime change on Iraq. In Libya, we assisted an organized and well funded rebellion over throw a murderous dictator.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

It's always someone else's fault.

And of course it's always Obama's fault.

Read here the 2007 recession and the 2008 crash was his fault.

 

[QuadpolarNutjob]

lol really, blaming the british? news flash obama; the buck stops at your desk. failure.

 

[humbolt]

we definitely broke Iraq and we definitely left a vacuum that we own because we forced regime change on Iraq. In Libya, we assisted an organized and well funded rebellion over throw a murderous dictator.

We assisted in destabilizing Libya, and got our ambassador killed as a bonus. It wasn't a success. Those types of events fall in the category of foreign policy disaster. You get a -1 for only telling half the story, and another -1 for telling half the story for partisan hack motives. That makes the total -8 because I count such things exactly the same way the Obama administration counts deportations.

 

[reinoe]

Sorry guys, you can point to Libya and call it whatever you want. We had a clear and limited role there: A well funded and organized rebellion asked us for help and we provided it. We gave them the opportunity to create a democratic Libya. If the parties there decided to fight among themselves, that’s on them. They have had two elections. Libya is no where near the ****storm Iraq is. And of course the OP blames President Obama for Iraq and the usual conservative whines. Its just more the of inability of conservatives to ever have an honest and intelligent discussion of anything concerning President Obama.

And as far as right wingers supporting our action in Libya, not really. There was no real push from the right. And this forum is rife with gadhaffi apologists trying to rewrite history. See below.

I've rarely seen such hardcore revisionist history. A "well funded organized rebellion". :doh You bought into the M.I.C. hardcore. Those were terrorists affiliated with terrorists and more than a few people knew it. No, Libya isn't the crapfest Iraq is but it's not for a lack of trying on our part. We literally gave them weapons.

This administration's lack of planning in Libya was a colossal failure and Obama trying to blame it on "Europeans" is patently absurd. :roll:

 

[Vern]

I've rarely seen such hardcore revisionist history. A "well funded organized rebellion". :doh You bought into the M.I.C. hardcore. Those were terrorists affiliated with terrorists and more than a few people knew it. No, Libya isn't the crapfest Iraq is but it's not for a lack of trying on our part. We literally gave them weapons.

This administration's lack of planning in Libya was a colossal failure and Obama trying to blame it on "Europeans" is patently absurd. :roll:

I agree reinoe, Libya is not the crapfest Iraq is. If the rebels were just "terrorists affiliated with terrorists" it would be" the crapfest Iraq is". They wouldn't have had 2 elections. The two sides wouldn't each have set up their own parliaments. The two sides wouldn’t each have backing from countries that we are friendly with. And Libyans are not streaming out of the country like Iraq. Libyans didn’t even make the top 30 of refugees seeking asylum in Europe in 2014. They were 30th in 2015. Syria is of course is the worst. Iraq is amazingly in the top 10.

Migrant crisis: Migration to Europe explained in seven charts - BBC News

And you just can’t say there was a lack of planning from us in Libya because it was clear from the beginning we were not going to get involved internally in Libya. Based on President Obama’s statements it seems he was expecting something more from Britain and France after the strikes. And the rival sides have backing from countries that could work out a deal if they chose to. Turkey and Qatar support one side and Egypt and UAE support the other. 5 years after the rebellion there just isn't people fleeing their homeland anything like Syria and Iraq. The two sides are going to have to resolve their differences and deal with ISIL or it will get worse. Those are simply the risks involved with deposing a murderous dictator. Its a shame how its turned out so far in Libya but our role was limited. That's a good thing right?

And look at the quotes below. that's hardcore revisionist history.

 

[poweRob]

Typical Obama... he farks up (Libya, Iraq, Syria, Shovel Ready Jobs, Economy, releasing terrorists, ObamaKare, race issues...) and it's all news to him... either he doesn't know, heard it from the news... so it's news to him, or it's the fault of someone else.

There is now a 7-year history of incompetence and prevarication on the part of Barack Hussein Obama...

... his presidency can be summed up in one word... Pathetic.

So... what's the topic here?

 

[Fenton]

Typical Obama... he farks up (Libya, Iraq, Syria, Shovel Ready Jobs, Economy, releasing terrorists, ObamaKare, race issues...) and it's all news to him... either he doesn't know, heard it from the news... so it's news to him, or it's the fault of someone else.

There is now a 7-year history of incompetence and prevarication on the part of Barack Hussein Obama...

... his presidency can be summed up in one word... Pathetic.

Obama's a man child and a ideologue and worse he's a progressive ideologue.

It's one of the reasons he's so dangerous.

Progressives shape the truth according to their ideology instead of shaping their ideology according to the truth. Truth is malleable to them.

As far as Obama's concerned ObamaCare is great, the economy is great and his Foreign policy disasters are someone else's fault.

When the Democrats were forced in the 2014 midterms to completely disconnect from his administration and pretend his signature legislation didn't exist he blamed Hillary instead of accepting any of the blame for HIS policies.