Obama has an interesting view of who the "enemy" is.

[Harshaw]

Obama: Fate of immigration reform hinges on election - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

"And if Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, we're gonna punish our enemies and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us, if they don't see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it's gonna be harder — and that's why I think it's so important that people focus on voting on November 2," he said.

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[Boo Radley]

Give me a little more of your thinkign here if you will.

 

[Harshaw]

I suspect my thoughts are fairly similar to yours in this exchange:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/news-...-39-000-jobs-september-12.html#post1059052130

 

[Boo Radley]

I suspect my thoughts are fairly similar to yours in this exchange:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/news-...-39-000-jobs-september-12.html#post1059052130

Well, I would like some originallity in attacks. Go on.

 

[Harshaw]

What's to "go on" about? It's about scare tactics and seeing other Americans as "enemies." It's all right there.

 

[Boo Radley]

What's to "go on" about? It's about scare tactics and seeing other Americans as "enemies." It's all right there.

To some degree:

"If the Latino community decides to sit out this election, then there will be fewer votes and it will be less likely to get done," Obama said on the "Piolín por la Mañana" program on Univision Radio.


Is that incorrect?

 

[Harshaw]

To some degree:

"If the Latino community decides to sit out this election, then there will be fewer votes and it will be less likely to get done," Obama said on the "Piolín por la Mañana" program on Univision Radio.


Is that incorrect?

Irrelevant.

 

[Boo Radley]

Irrelevant.

No, not really. It is the point of his speech. If they they stop those who will help them, then those who won't can be called an enemy (little e). As in being opposed to their desires.

 

[Whovian]

I thought only those nasty, evil, smelly Republicans tried to incite violence during elections. My bad.

 

[Boo Radley]

I thought only those nasty, evil, smelly Republicans tried to incite violence during elections. My bad.

Where is the call for violence? Where are they called Muslims, socialist, marxists, Stalinist, out to kill you with death panels, wanting to enslave you, program your children, teach anal sex to second grades (a student brought that one in the other day)? While I wouldn't use the word enemy, and dislike the politics of fear, even when used by democrats (and they do use it), thhis hardly ranks up there with what republican talking heads and leaders have been doing.

 

[Harshaw]

No, not really. It is the point of his speech. If they they stop those who will help them, then those who won't can be called an enemy (little e). As in being opposed to their desires.

The "point" of his speech IS irrelevant; it's about the terminology and tone of the speech. I made that clear from the beginning.

But I guess if you can't defend that, you must deflect and distract.

 

[Boo Radley]

The "point" of his speech IS irrelevant; it's about the terminology and tone of the speech. I made that clear from the beginning.

But I guess if you can't defend that, you must deflect and distract.

Not defending. Making a judgement (critical thinking). It doesn't meet the claim you're making. And his point is the point.

 

[Whovian]

Where is the call for violence? Where are they called Muslims, socialist, marxists, Stalinist, out to kill you with death panels, wanting to enslave you, program your children, teach anal sex to second grades (a student brought that one in the other day)? While I wouldn't use the word enemy, and dislike the politics of fear, even when used by democrats (and they do use it), thhis hardly ranks up there with what republican talking heads and leaders have been doing.

I was being sarcastic.

I put this in the same category that Palin using a scope sight in an ad to 'target' democratic districts would be. Although I do think the word 'enemies' is a bit much.

 

[Harshaw]

Not defending. Making a judgement (critical thinking). It doesn't meet the claim you're making. And his point is the point.

You can keep saying his point is the point all you want, but it was never my point. It's how he made it. Thus, it's irrelevant.

Color me extraordinarily surprised that you say it "doesn't meet the claim I'm making." :roll: That you don't want it want to was clear the moment you began deflecting.

 

[Boo Radley]

You can keep saying his point is the point all you want, but it was never my point. It's how he made it. Thus, it's irrelevant.

Color me extraordinarily surprised that you say it "doesn't meet the claim I'm making." :roll: That you don't want it want to was clear the moment you began deflecting.

I know it wasn't your point, but i'm trying to show you that you have it wrong. His effort had a point. And before you can evaluate what is said, you ahve to put in the context of his point. And as I pointed out, in comparison, he's rather tame.

 

[Harshaw]

I know it wasn't your point, but i'm trying to show you that you have it wrong. His effort had a point. And before you can evaluate what is said, you ahve to put in the context of his point. And as I pointed out, in comparison, he's rather tame.

"I know it wasn't your point, but I'm bringing up something entirely irrelevant in order to pretend you're wrong."

 

[Boo Radley]

"I know it wasn't your point, but I'm bringing up something entirely irrelevant in order to pretend you're wrong."

The thing is, it isn't irrelevant. It puts it all in context.

 

[Harshaw]

The thing is, it isn't irrelevant. It puts it all in context.

The context was plain from the statement itself. But keep flailing. It's still irrelevant. :roll:

 

[Boo Radley]

The context was plain from the statement itself. But keep flailing. It's still irrelevant. :roll:

Is plain code for whatever you want it to mean?

 

[Harshaw]

I was being sarcastic.

I put this in the same category that Palin using a scope sight in an ad to 'target' democratic districts would be. Although I do think the word 'enemies' is a bit much.

That, and "punishing."

 

[Harshaw]

Is plain code for whatever you want it to mean?

No, "plain" as in "plain," like the plain words of Senator Obama in 2008:

The other side will come here in September and offer a very different set of policies and positions, and that is a debate I look forward to. It is a debate the American people deserve. But what you don't deserve is another election that's governed by fear, and innuendo, and division. What you won't hear from this campaign or this party is the kind of politics that uses religion as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon – that sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge, but enemies to demonize. Because we may call ourselves Democrats and Republicans, but we are Americans first. We are always Americans first.

 

[mpg]

This is so unlike Obama. You can't help but wonder if this was a Freudian slip.

 

[zimmer]

See what happens when the teleprompteur, Obama's Brain, isn't at hand?

Very Short List
Bitter Clingers.
Spread the Wealth around.
The Cambridge police acted stupidly.
And now... in time for the Mid-term elections... The One We Have Been Waiting For... The Uniter... wants to "punish" his "enemies".

CHRIST! I thought he just had 2-years doing precisely that.

Well, the sober amongst us learned quickly he was wired this way... you don't inhale the toxic waste Wright puked from the pulpit for 20-years without it having some effect.

LOL... Obama is making Nixon look like the model bi-partisan president. Nixon may have had a private enemies list... Obama's is public, and it consumes more than half the nation!

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[Boo Radley]

No, "plain" as in "plain," like the plain words of Senator Obama in 2008:

Always a good idea not to listen to such claims of what is "plain." Out of context, removed from meaning, is the opposite of "plain."

 

[Harshaw]

Always a good idea not to listen to such claims of what is "plain." Out of context, removed from meaning, is the opposite of "plain."

Ah, the winkie is out. Surrender accepted.