Obama for President!

[Sledge]

Obama's First Presidential Ad
Teach blind men to fish, they'll eat for a lifetime. Give blind men fish, and they'll VOTE for you [for] a lifetime. Entitlements and social programs destroy the hopes and dreams of man. One need not look past a 'ghetto' or 'reservation' to see the effects of Socialism and Entitlements at its best. Socialism and an entitlement state is the antithesis of what made America great. Obama and his rhetoric are socialistic to the core. -prokoph

 

[TurtleDude]

He's a lightweight
good academics
good speaker
lucked out to win the senate due to a dem judge's nonsense

He might become worthy to vote for
right now he is an empty suit

 

[Stinger]

He's a lightweight
good academics
good speaker
lucked out to win the senate due to a Democrat judge's nonsense

He might become worthy to vote for
right now he is an empty suit

He has charisma, he talks good, that's all that matters to the left.

 

[niftydrifty]

...the effects of Socialism....

Has this country EVER been run by Socialists? Sledges wants you to think so!

LOL! The way ya'll talk, ie., bitterly/flippantly, is evidence that there is a whole lot more to Obama than any one of you will admit, or notice.

 

[Stinger]

Has this country EVER been run by Socialists? Sledges wants you to think so!

LOL! The way ya'll talk, ie., bitterly/flippantly, is evidence that there is a whole lot more to Obama than any one of you will admit, or notice.

Well fill us in, what executive experience has he had?

 

[Navy Pride]

He has charisma, he talks good, that's all that matters to the left.

He is the lefts new rock star..........

 

[Thales]

He speaks well, but I need to look into details about his stances. I also have extreme reservations about his lack of experience. I have doubts about his ability to govern effectively on foreign policy and also on if he's electable with such little experience.

 

[Navy Pride]

The guy is a lightweight when it comes to experience........

 

[Stinger]

He is the lefts new rock star..........

Are political groupies poupies?

 

[AJCSDA]

Fine with me as long as Clinton doesn't get put into office. I would consider becoming an illegal immigrant into mexico if that happened.

 

[disneydude]

The guy is a lightweight when it comes to experience........

Yeah....I see what you mean....the last time we selected a President with no foreign policy experience and no national experience....he got us into a pointless war which has lead to the death of thousands of our soldiers....and he has driven our country to the brink of financial and moral bankruptcy.......so maybe experience is something that we should look at if we want our country to regain its stature....but then again.....

 

[ALiberalModerate]

He has charisma, he talks good, that's all that matters to the left.

Yeah, heaven forbid that Democrats actually respect speaking ability and someone who demonstrates a command of the issues.

It seems Republicans prefer willfully ignorant empty suits who can't even string a sentence together unscripted.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Yeah....I see what you mean....the last time we selected a President with no foreign policy experience and no national experience....he got us into a pointless war which has lead to the death of thousands of our soldiers....and he has driven our country to the brink of financial and moral bankruptcy.......so maybe experience is something that we should look at if we want our country to regain its stature....but then again.....

Jealous and partisan opinionated drivel.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Yeah, heaven forbid that Democrats actually respect speaking ability and someone who demonstrates a command of the issues.

It seems Republicans prefer willfully ignorant empty suits who can't even string a sentence together unscripted.

Jealous and partisan opinionated drivel, Part Deux!

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Jealous and partisan opinionated drivel, Part Deux!

We have the majority in both houses of congress, the majority of governorships and statehouses. What is there to be jealous about?

I simply made an acute observation.

 

[Navy Pride]

We have the majority in both houses of congress, the majority of governorships and statehouses. What is there to be jealous about?

I simply made an acute observation.

The biggest prize of all the Presidency something your part has only had 2 of in the last 40 years.............

 

[Navy Pride]

Well, not to concede all of your criticisms of President Bush, but yeah, that's exactly right. If Bush was sufficiently experienced we would not have ended up in Iraq, because although the specific consequences were unpredictable, to someone experienced the likelihood of unforseen circumstances and the stakes would've disuaded the plan to attack Iraq when we did.
Experience shows the limits of reason. You try and fail. You see the people you respect try and fail. All and all, it leads to you realizing that failure is always a possibility, and the more you're reliant only upon your own reason the more likely that you will fail.

Barrack Obama absolutely needs experience. I don't think anyone doubts that, barring a **** up on his behalf, he will be president some day, but he's not ready in the least, no where close.

I don't see why more people take the Bush administration as an example of the importance of experience. I mean, by any objective standard he's much more intelligent and thoughtful than his policies reflect, and by and large his administration will be viewed as a failure, as a product of Bush simply not being qualified to be president. Who knows if things would've been different in 10 years or so, but it's painfully clear that he was a guy with the right idea for the most part who just had no ****ing clue what he was doing.

I know a lot of you are anxious to grade the Bush presidency a failure but I think the jury is out and we might not know for several years if its a failure or a success.........I am a little older then you and I can remember when people said the Eisenhower presidency was a failure and we know what happened there.........

 

[AJCSDA]

I know a lot of you are anxious to grade the Bush presidency a failure but I think the jury is out and we might not know for several years if its a failure or a success.........I am a little older then you and I can remember when people said the Eisenhower presidency was a failure and we know what happened there.........

Plus, I can guarentee the thousands of family's of people that Osama was killing don't think it's such a "failure" The stupid part about it is, is that Republicans can't win. If the Democrats get a president next, and he sucks, they will just blame it on bush. If they do great, it's not that Bush was a success, it's that they are an amazing president. If we get one that good, he is a success and Bush still made a horrible choice, and if they suck, then Bush is an idiot and we ruined the country.

 

[Stinger]

Originally Posted by Stinger
He has charisma, he talks good, that's all that matters to the left.

Yeah, heaven forbid that Democrats actually respect speaking ability

You can respect it all you want, but to me it's what they say not how they say it.

and someone who demonstrates a command of the issues.

Since he hasn't..............and just having a "command of them" means what?

If Obama wasn't black he wouldn't even be in consideration now, maybe later if he builds a track record of executive leadership or accomplishment. But right now what else is propelling him? He can can walk and talk at the same time?

It seems Republicans prefer willfully ignorant empty suits who can't even string a sentence together unscripted.

I can't think of a Rep who fit's that description who is running for President and since Bush certainly isn't ignorant can you be more specific.

 

[Navy Pride]

I know a lot of you are anxious to grade the Bush presidency a failure but I think the jury is out and we might not know for several years if its a failure or a success.........I am a little older then you and I can remember when people said the Eisenhower presidency was a failure and we know what happened there.........

Well if Afghanistan and Iraq became democracies and the price of oil dropped to about $30. a barrel people might lkook a little more kindly at the Bush Presidency.........

 

[Hatuey]

Well if Afghanistan and Iraq became democracies and the price of oil dropped to about $30. a barrel people might lkook a little more kindly at the Bush Presidency.........

Sadly thats not going to happen in the real world. Only in the minds of neocons.

 

[Stinger]

Sadly thats not going to happen in the real world. Only in the minds of neocons.

And leftest said there would never be an Iraq provisional government, nor a constitution, nor general elections, nor a president..................that wasn't going to happen in the real world either. And if the left has it's way there will not democracy in the ME and lower oil cost but there will be defeat.

 

[Navy Pride]

Sadly thats not going to happen in the real world. Only in the minds of neocons.

Neocons like Joe Leiberman?

 

[Flea]

This guy has lied about his past and has no qualifications to be President. He is a bad choice to back.

 

[Sauwan]

Well if Afghanistan and Iraq became democracies and the price of oil dropped to about $30. a barrel people might lkook a little more kindly at the Bush Presidency.........

Yeesh. I'm generally an optimist but I think believing that both Afghanistan and Iraq will become democracies due to this war is a little too optimistic. This is something that bullets will not solve. If you think there's tension between the Democrats and the Republicans, consider the discrepancies between the Sunnis and the Shi'ites. I know that they are religious not political groups, but their problems are only escalating with this war. The execution of Saddam was poorly done from the perspective of peace there.

That said, I also think Obama probably does lack the experience, but I believe he is considerably more knowledgeable about foreign relations than many give him credit for.