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Obama campaign raises $25 million

I think people support Obama because he's a black man with a shot at the Presidency. I don't know enough about him to make a judgement, but this seems to me a very contemptible reason to be the mans advocate.

Its like supporting Hillary because she is female.
 
talloulou said:
Out of curiosity why would you like to see Obama as the next president? I know tons of people love the "idea of him" but they don't seem to know why? So why aps?
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talloulou, you may be misinterpreting my post. It's more about me NOT wanting Hillary to be our nominee. There she is running around exuding confidence. It makes me want to puke. I love thinking that she thought she had this nomination in the bag until...........Obama declared his candidacy. I want her to get a serious wake-up call.

If I were to pick my favorite candidiate now, it would be Bill Richardson. I am just not sure he will be able to get the nomination. So far, I like what I see about Obama, but I need to learn more about him.
 
Obama has what we need in this world. Politics are jaded following Bush & Co. He's a breath of fresh air. He's real.
 
talloulou said:
Out of curiosity why would you like to see Obama as the next president? I know tons of people love the "idea of him" but they don't seem to know why? So why aps?
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Because he strikes me as the only canditate who actually cares about more than getting re-elected.
 
talloulou said:
Then start with that? What exactly do you see that you like? I'm curious.
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He is a Democrat first and foremost. He is VERY, VERY intelligent and has common sense. He exudes genuineness. He has stopped smoking. ;) He is articulate, and he has charisma. He does not appear to be a partisan jerk--always looking to bash the other side.
 
aps said:
Obama campaign raises $25 million - Barack Obama News - MSNBC.com

Hillary, you've got some serious competition! Yippee! Obama, show her you can beat her, will you?????

:donkeyfla
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Obama Could Raise More Money if He Were Married to Bill Clinton


Sen. Barack Obama, D-IL, whose presidential campaign raised $25 million in the first quarter from 100,000 contributors today said that he could have raised even more money if he were married to former President Bill Clinton, whose fundraising prowess is legendary.

“Even though I’m handicapped by not being married to former President Clinton,” Sen. Obama said, “I’m still in, and I’m in to win.”

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, who raised $26 million from only 50,000 donors, today tried to put the best face on her rival’s surprising success, noting that “money doesn’t matter. Votes matter. And when the primary comes, I’ll beat Obama even if I get only half as many votes.”

ScrappleFace » Obama Could Raise More If Married to Bill Clinton


:lol:
 
aps said:
He is a Democrat first and foremost. He is VERY, VERY intelligent and has common sense.
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How do you know that? I mean what makes you think he's highly intelligent with tons of common sense?

I've read one of his books so I know he's no idiot. He's a fairly good writer and he appears to be a charismatic speaker but I'm not sure about the common sense? What leads you to believe he has common sense?

He exudes genuineness.
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Now that I don't agree with. He was very candid in his book and yet seems less so now as he campaigns. Frankly I think if he said some of the things he says in his book in public speeches he'd be less liked.

He has stopped smoking. ;)
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You can't know that! But clearly he's stated that he is trying to quit and that's cool.

He is articulate, and he has charisma. He does not appear to be a partisan jerk--always looking to bash the other side.
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Have you read his book!!!! He bashes the other side repeatedly! He actually says in his book that liberals base their decisions on logic while conservatives don't. Plus he constantly says crap like well liberals have a problem with this but conservatives are much worse because blah blah blah. To say he doesn't bash is naive and indicative of the fact that you haven't read the man's book which is odd.

I don't support the man and yet I've read his book. You clearly support him and yet it seems you haven't read the book. Either that or you've read the book and have an extreme case of selective memory! :shock:

How do you feel about his tendency towards socialism?
 
talloulou said:
Have you read his book!!!! He bashes the other side repeatedly! He actually says in his book that liberals base their decisions on logic while conservatives don't. Plus he constantly says crap like well liberals have a problem with this but conservatives are much worse because blah blah blah. To say he doesn't bash is naive and indicative of the fact that you haven't read the man's book which is odd.
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Talk to Vauge about that, I remember a post of his talking about how liberal beliefs are usually based on logic, whereas conservative ones are based on emotion.
 
Skip said:
Talk to Vauge about that, I remember a post of his talking about how liberal beliefs are usually based on logic, whereas conservative ones are based on emotion.
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Well it's a lame attempt at insult anyway in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with emotion and anyone who believes their beliefs don't have emotion behind them are just fooling themselves. Anytime someone takes numbers, statistics, or facts they still have to interpret how that information should be applied to the topic. There's always some level of emotion unless it's a direct math problem or you just don't care either way.
 
talloulou said:
Well it's a lame attempt at insult anyway in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with emotion and anyone who believes their beliefs don't have emotion behind them are just fooling themselves. Anytime someone takes numbers, statistics, or facts they still have to interpret how that information should be applied to the topic. There's always some level of emotion unless it's a direct math problem or you just don't care either way.
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Who says Obama was trying to purposely insult conservatives? The train of thought here is that conservative values are based more on emotion, and liberal ones based more on logic. Is that an insult? No, it's a widely accepted opinion. Not 100% of all conservative positions are based on emotion - simply the majority. The same goes for liberalism and logic.

Make sense?
 
Skip said:
Who says Obama was trying to purposely insult conservatives? The train of thought here is that conservative values are based more on emotion, and liberal ones based more on logic. Is that an insult? No, it's a widely accepted opinion. Not 100% of all conservative positions are based on emotion - simply the majority. The same goes for liberalism and logic.

Make sense?
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No it's total hor$e$hit. :rofl Likewise with the "widely accepted opinion" nonsense. The only reason you buy into such rot is because it appeals to your base emotions! How funny is that? :mrgreen:
 
So what exactly are Obama's credentials at this point? Last I checked he has only been in the senate for a few years.
 
talloulou said:
No it's total hor$e$hit. :rofl Likewise with the "widely accepted opinion" nonsense. The only reason you buy into such rot is because it appeals to your base emotions! How funny is that? :mrgreen:
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I would bet that if you asked most conservatives and liberals alike, you would find that this is a widely accepted opinion, just like I said before. I first saw this from Vauge, a man who makes a lot of sense and also considers himself Very Conservative.

Your emotions are blinding your view of the truth.
 
Skip said:
I would bet that if you asked most conservatives and liberals alike, you would find that this is a widely accepted opinion, just like I said before. I first saw this from Vauge, a man who makes a lot of sense and also considers himself Very Conservative.

Your emotions are blinding your view of the truth.
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What truth is that? That I'm illogical? :rofl I don't know; the most emotional and hysterical people I've seen over the past few years in the media have mostly been whacked out liberals. More often those that are to the left of the left so to speak. When it comes to people I actually know I find conservatives and liberals to each have certain issues that they get overly emotional about. I get emotional over abortion. Many get emotional over global warming. There is nothing wrong with emotion as long as it doesn't get you so worked up that you can't see straight or carry on a rational conversation. On certain topics I think everyone is guilty of getting overly emotional. It think I've seen more hysteria from liberals in the media lately but then again they are very unhappy about how things have been going. The situation could easily reverse in the future.

However to make blanket statements suggesting these people use logic while these other people use emotion is just retarded. In my opinion it shows a real superiority complex.

And as far as vauge goes I don't agree with him on everything. But I do find it hard to believe that he thinks conservatives are emotional basket cases while liberals are full of sound logic and reasoning.
 
It's a shame, all of the money and yet he is still getting trampled by Hillary in the polls. Could it be that perhaps there's more to these silly election things than money?
 
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