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Obama Admin Appeals Judge’s Decision To Stop Genital Searches in Guantanamo

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President Barack Obama's administration appealed a federal court order Wednesday ordering the Pentagon to stop having guards search the genitals of Guantánamo Bay detainees before and after they meet with their attorneys.According to the appeal, which was first obtained by the the Miami Herald, the searches were warranted because the guards were finding “dangerous materials and other contraband” in prison cells, though none of the items were used in attacks against guards, nor is there evidence that the attorneys provided the detainees with the contraband.
The appeal did state, however, that "prison officials are entitled to take preemptive measures to ensure the security of their facilities.”
The Obama administration also filed an emergency administrative stay, asking a judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit to delay the federal court's order pending the appeal.


Read @: Obama Admin Appeals Judge's Decision To Stop Genital Searches in Guantanamo | TPM LiveWire

So were still gonna search peoples private parts after meeting with attorney's even tho they admit that none of the items were used in attacks against guards, nor is there evidence that the attorneys provided the detainees with the contraband.
 

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Legal framework for molestation.... All they have to do is tell some "attorney" to go say hi and they get to finger a girl or shove something up someones ass. At least thats how I understand it from afar.
 

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So were still gonna search peoples private parts after meeting with attorney's even tho they admit that none of the items were used in attacks against guards, nor is there evidence that the attorneys provided the detainees with the contraband.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Jealous?

Legal framework for molestation.... All they have to do is tell some "attorney" to go say hi and they get to finger a girl or shove something up someones ass. At least thats how I understand it from afar.

Buttholes are not genitals.
 

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Buttholes are not genitals.

Well a vag is more personal than an ass(arguable?).. If they can go all up in the more important 1 for safety reasons..... What are they going to do next? Expand the language to allow "tools" and then claim that a penis is a tool because it can help make people?
 

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Well a vag is more personal than an ass(arguable?).. If they can go all up in the more important 1 for safety reasons..... What are they going to do next? Expand the language to allow "tools" and then claim that a penis is a tool because it can help make people?

Do you think a butthole is a genital?
 

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I guess webster's says "of or pertaining to the sexual organs" So if someone puts a penis in a butt hole it becomes a sexual orifice?
 

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Since most of the detainees are male, Just how much can they hide inside of their non-butthole genitals?

See, another person thinks buttholes are genitals.
 

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Answer the question. Plus, have you ever hidden anything inside of your penis?

Are you seriously going to argue that there is no space to hide anything around or under your genitals? I could conceal sizable objects behind my junk. I guess it depends on the person.
 
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Are you seriously going to argue that there is no space to hide anything around or under your genitals? I could conceal sizable objects behind my junk. I guess it depends on the person.

I couldnt resist.

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Though I agree that we should release the ones who are ready to go, and to actually charge and try those who we are holding, this is not terribly abnormal. You are in prison, and yes they will search and inspect your genital region for contraband. It is what prisons do. Really, the guards are not there to get a big old handful of terrorist nuts because it turns them on. It is actually not a job people want to do.

I am really not sure why people think that the guards are salivating at the idea of grabbing hairy testicles and searching the assholes of assholes.
 

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Though I agree that we should release the ones who are ready to go, and to actually charge and try those who we are holding, this is not terribly abnormal. You are in prison, and yes they will search and inspect your genital region for contraband. It is what prisons do. Really, the guards are not there to get a big old handful of terrorist nuts because it turns them on. It is actually not a job people want to do.

I am really not sure why people think that the guards are salivating at the idea of grabbing hairy testicles and searching the assholes of assholes.
You can tell yourself that all you want but if it is allowed then people will abuse it sexual. Period. People who volenteer to guard prisoners volunteered for money or whatever. So really it should stop there.
 

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You can tell yourself that all you want but if it is allowed then people will abuse it sexual. Period. People who volenteer to guard prisoners volunteered for money or whatever. So really it should stop there.

This is not terribly odd for any prison across the country. You have not paid attention, nor do you seek out the information, but it doesn't mean it is not there every day. You have to keep guards and prisoners safe, and when you do not check someplace that is the first area prisoners use to smuggle things in. I am also pretty sure that the requirements for actually becoming a guard in Gitmo pretty much eliminate the 2 people with sexual fetishes for sweaty, hairy, grimy, middle eastern prisoners in a military prison. It would be much easier to become a corrections officer here in the US if you wanted to spend your days looking at the underside of some prisoner's nutsack or viewing up his bunghole. It just shows you have little to no idea what is actually going on in prison when you think this is somehow a sexual thing.
 

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These guys were emasculated by their religion a long time ago. It's probably time to quit looking for something that isn't there.
 

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This is not terribly odd for any prison across the country. You have not paid attention, nor do you seek out the information, but it doesn't mean it is not there every day. You have to keep guards and prisoners safe, and when you do not check someplace that is the first area prisoners use to smuggle things in. I am also pretty sure that the requirements for actually becoming a guard in Gitmo pretty much eliminate the 2 people with sexual fetishes for sweaty, hairy, grimy, middle eastern prisoners in a military prison. It would be much easier to become a corrections officer here in the US if you wanted to spend your days looking at the underside of some prisoner's nutsack or viewing up his bunghole. It just shows you have little to no idea what is actually going on in prison when you think this is somehow a sexual thing.
Of course I dont know EXACTLY whats going on but anyone has a mind and can guess. You can direct the "ohhh it might be bad" stuff onto homeland prison systems but everyone needs attention. Do you know if they send females to secret prisons or not? Do you know if they send other nationalities to secret prisons? All I know is the law exists. And if it exists it allows people to abuse it. If they dont like being guards find another job. Ive had female cops grope me out in the open street twice now. And that is with laws against that sort of thing! Imagine if someone had confidence to do more because they could bend the words in laws to their whims.
 

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Read @: Obama Admin Appeals Judge's Decision To Stop Genital Searches in Guantanamo | TPM LiveWire

So were still gonna search peoples private parts after meeting with attorney's even tho they admit that none of the items were used in attacks against guards, nor is there evidence that the attorneys provided the detainees with the contraband.[/FONT][/COLOR]

This admits that attorney's ARE passing contraband to their clients during these meetings. That they weren't items used against the guards is superfluous, they aren't supposed to be smuggling ANYTHING to their clients.

But I do find it high humor that the Obama DOJ will step up to defend policy but not lift a finger to follow their oathes of office and defend laws of the land they don't find politically expedient.
 

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Though I agree that we should release the ones who are ready to go, and to actually charge and try those who we are holding, this is not terribly abnormal. You are in prison, and yes they will search and inspect your genital region for contraband. It is what prisons do. Really, the guards are not there to get a big old handful of terrorist nuts because it turns them on. It is actually not a job people want to do.

I am really not sure why people think that the guards are salivating at the idea of grabbing hairy testicles and searching the assholes of assholes.

Because some of them are vicious assholes who enjoy dehumanizing the "enemy."
 

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This admits that attorney's ARE passing contraband to their clients during these meetings. That they weren't items used against the guards is superfluous, they aren't supposed to be smuggling ANYTHING to their clients.

But I do find it high humor that the Obama DOJ will step up to defend policy but not lift a finger to follow their oathes of office and defend laws of the land they don't find politically expedient.
Perhaps not even passing it. They could appoint an "attorney". Have the guy walk in and throw something illegal on the ground and walk out. Time to molest some prisoners.
 

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Perhaps not even passing it. They could appoint an "attorney". Have the guy walk in and throw something illegal on the ground and walk out. Time to molest some prisoners.

That's not what's being asserted here. There is no mention of that in the part of the filing we're currently party to, and there certainly would be if that were the problem. The guards are searching and finding stuff after the attorney visits. The attorneys are saying none of that stuff is being used to harm the guards. Of course they shouldn't be passing stuff to the inmates in any case.
 

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This admits that attorney's ARE passing contraband to their clients during these meetings. That they weren't items used against the guards is superfluous, they aren't supposed to be smuggling ANYTHING to their clients.
No it doesnt: " though none of the items were used in attacks against guards, nor is there evidence that the attorneys provided the detainees with the contraband. "
 
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