NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Reveals

[Donc]

This is why i canceled my membership in the NRA ten years ago.:2wave:

The National Rifle Association acted as a "foreign asset" for Russia in the period leading up to the 2016 election, according to a new investigation unveiled Friday by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon.Drawing on contemporaneous emails and private interviews, an 18-month probe by the Senate Finance Committee's Democratic staff found that the NRA underwrote political access for Russian nationals Maria Butina and Alexander Torshin more than previously known — even though the two had declared their ties to the Kremlin.


NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Finds : NPR

 

[joko104]

This is why i canceled my membership in the NRA ten years ago.:2wave:

The National Rifle Association acted as a "foreign asset" for Russia in the period leading up to the 2016 election, according to a new investigation unveiled Friday by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon.Drawing on contemporaneous emails and private interviews, an 18-month probe by the Senate Finance Committee's Democratic staff found that the NRA underwrote political access for Russian nationals Maria Butina and Alexander Torshin more than previously known — even though the two had declared their ties to the Kremlin.


NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Finds : NPR

Bernie Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. This is absolute proof that he has always been a "Russian asset" as the Democrats on that Senate committee's report - NOT a "Senate Report" claims that any person who visits Russia is a "Russian asset."

 

[American]

https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/...on Became a Foreign Asset (with addendum).pdf

Here's the Democrat report.

 

[joko104]

https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/...on Became a Foreign Asset (with addendum).pdf

Here's the Democrat report.

Read it.

The core premise is that anyone who has ever traveled to Russia is a Russian asset. It speculated Russian intelligence would then try to use what they learn about visitors to try to gain influence in the future.

So... clearly anyone who has traveled to Russia should be locked up. Obviously we should start with Russian asset Bernie Sanders.

 

[Donc]

Bernie Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. This is absolute proof that he has always been a "Russian asset" as the Democrats on that Senate committee's report - NOT a "Senate Report" claims that any person who visits Russia is a "Russian asset."

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/...it/CoverStory-STORY_blitt_trump_uncle_sam.jpg


This is image of two"Russian assets "in action.:2wave:

 

[joko104]

BTW: The title of this thread is a lie. This is NOT a "Senate Report." This is a Democratic Party minority political statement against the NRA that proves nothing. Some people with the NRA had traveled to Russia and had talked to a Russian in the USA. They claim that proves the NRA is a Russian asset. That's it. Nothing else.

 

[TurtleDude]

https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/...on Became a Foreign Asset (with addendum).pdf

Here's the Democrat report.

The Democrat party hate the NRA and sees it as a major obstacle to their candidates winning elections. Thanks for providing it.

 

[TurtleDude]

BTW: The title of this thread is a lie. This is NOT a "Senate Report." This is a Democratic Party minority political statement against the NRA that proves nothing. Some people with the NRA had traveled to Russia and had talked to a Russian in the USA. They claim that proves the NRA is a Russian asset. That's it. Nothing else.

when the Wall came down at the end of the Reagan administration-Start of the Bush administration, lots of documents concerning KGB assets in the USA were uncovered. It was astounding how many moderate-to far left-organizations were implicated. Some of the more amusing was a pair of nutcase groups that constantly whined about Reagan's operations in Central America: the Christic Institute and CISPES (Citizens in Solidarity with the People of El Salvador). A US General (Singlaub) who was a founder of the CIA and a oft-decorated war hero, was the target of suits by those loony organizations concerning the contras in Nicaragua and other Central American operations. he claimed they were KGB fronts-which was established as true after the USSR collapsed. Millions of Russian dollars flowed into the Clinton Foundation as well. Watching the Democrats try to smear the NRA over this Russian spy's actions is hilarious given the long standing connections between the American Left and the Russians

 

[L' Apparat]

It seems everyone interacts with the Russians. No biggie here. Best let this go and focus on 2020.

 

[joko104]

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/...it/CoverStory-STORY_blitt_trump_uncle_sam.jpg


This is image of two"Russian assets "in action.:2wave:

Most progressive Democrats on this forum no longer discuss or debate topics. They only try to derail topics with generic TDS ranting.

I understand how furious you must be that Trump didn't allow Russia to take all of Ukraine and Eastern Europe like Obama and Clinton were giving to him. Or is it that Trump didn't give Iran another $150 billion to kill more American troops with that you so hate President Trump?

 

[jamesrage]

This is why i canceled my membership in the NRA ten years ago.:2wave:

The National Rifle Association acted as a "foreign asset" for Russia in the period leading up to the 2016 election, according to a new investigation unveiled Friday by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon.Drawing on contemporaneous emails and private interviews, an 18-month probe by the Senate Finance Committee's Democratic staff found that the NRA underwrote political access for Russian nationals Maria Butina and Alexander Torshin more than previously known — even though the two had declared their ties to the Kremlin.


NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Finds : NPR

The claims of people who adamantly hate the NRA are about as trustworthy as the claims of the KKK about black people and other races. Which is zilch.

 

[Donc]

Most progressive Democrats on this forum no longer discuss or debate topics. They only try to derail topics with generic TDS ranting.

I understand how furious you must be that Trump didn't allow Russia to take all of Ukraine and Eastern Europe like Obama and Clinton were giving to him. Or is it that Trump didn't give Iran another $150 billion to kill more American troops with that you so hate President Trump?

This link was on the front page when I joined DP now the admin got it buried.

 

[Donc]

The claims of people who adamantly hate the NRA are about as trustworthy as the claims of the KKK about black people and other races. Which is zilch.

Black people like "Sheriff David Clarke" an NRA board member, who traveled to Moscow on the NRA's dime($40,000) to attend a conference put on by Aleksander Torshin,a CPSU Central Committee/Putin like pResident tRump?

 

[bearpoker]

This is why i canceled my membership in the NRA ten years ago.:2wave:

The National Rifle Association acted as a "foreign asset" for Russia in the period leading up to the 2016 election, according to a new investigation unveiled Friday by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon.Drawing on contemporaneous emails and private interviews, an 18-month probe by the Senate Finance Committee's Democratic staff found that the NRA underwrote political access for Russian nationals Maria Butina and Alexander Torshin more than previously known — even though the two had declared their ties to the Kremlin.


NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Finds : NPR

I don't know if the NRA was a Russian asset, but its leaders were definitely Russian stooges. They bought into the whole scam about the Russian gun rights group that operated freely in Russia.:lamo They even went to visit them in Russia. They palled around with Maria Butina. They bought the scam, hook, line and sinker. If you want to influence the NRA, just hire a pretty girl and take pictures of her fondling a rifle, and they're putty in your hands.:mrgreen:

 

[beancounter]

Mods: Might as well merge my thread with this one.

NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Reveals

 

[jamesrage]

Black people like "Sheriff David Clarke" an NRA board member, who traveled to Moscow on the NRA's dime($40,000) to attend a conference put on by Aleksander Torshin,a CPSU Central Committee/Putin like pResident tRump?

And? A gun rights group meeting with like minded individuals outside the country is no different than a pro-abortion group or any other groups meeting with like minded individuals outside the US.

 

[Donc]

And? A gun rights group meeting with like minded individuals outside the country is no different than a pro-abortion group or any other groups meeting with like minded individuals outside the US.

GOT IT!!!... derail the topic to ABORTION.:roll:

 

[Rexedgar]

And? A gun rights group meeting with like minded individuals outside the country is no different than a pro-abortion group or any other groups meeting with like minded individuals outside the US.

Putin is all for Russians and their “gun rights!” /s

 

[SCrider]

Any of the Pro NRA types ever wonder why they "gambled" 30 mill on a guy who was anti gun most of his adult life?

 

[MSgt]

Bernie Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. This is absolute proof that he has always been a "Russian asset" as the Democrats on that Senate committee's report - NOT a "Senate Report" claims that any person who visits Russia is a "Russian asset."

I think the very clear difference here is that this declaration comes from an 18-month probe, where as your knee-jerk response is based on a partisan's need to stick his head in a hole.

This should not shock you. Foreign governments often try to persuade our politics through the American people. Israel is a great example. It maintains one of the most powerful lobby groups in Washington and constantly focuses propaganda towards Conservative Christians. Russia is obviously looking to court the NRA, because not only does it own the GOP (even Trump declared them scared), but the GOP also holds influence over the more Conservative gun owner across America. Just what is it about Conservatives that make them so easily manipulated? Anyway, broaden your horizon and discover the world you live in:

Foreign governments, corporations, and opposition movements can also hire public relations firms and professional lobbyists to clean up their public image, lobby politicians directly, and try to get influential Americans to see them as valuable partners.

 

[MSgt]

And? A gun rights group meeting with like minded individuals outside the country is no different than a pro-abortion group or any other groups meeting with like minded individuals outside the US.

Common sense:

Russia ---> NRA ---> GOP/American conservatives ----> White House?

Looks a lot like:

Israel ---> Christians ---> GOP ---> White House.

This is not a meeting of like minded people who want to form a social club. This is about political influence. Foreign governments have known since the middle of the Cold War how easily it is to fool Americans. Of course, back then our own government kept Americans in the dark. But today? We Americans pride ourselves on our ideologies and will cling as tightly as possible, no matter the reality. This makes us psychologically vulnerable to false rhetoric, impractical slogans, and disinformation campaigns. You think Russia's political game in 2016 happened because Moscow thought we were a terribly bright people? Considering how blindly supportive a great element of our population remains towards a man who would enlist a foreign government's aid to do harm to American citizens, Moscow wasn't far off in their assessments. We live in an information age of light speed and our great talent has been about how to abuse the **** out of it.

 

[Phys251]

Bernie Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. This is absolute proof that he has always been a "Russian asset" as the Democrats on that Senate committee's report - NOT a "Senate Report" claims that any person who visits Russia is a "Russian asset."

Congratulations on winning this thread's Whataboutism award! :thumbs:

 

[TurtleDude]

And? A gun rights group meeting with like minded individuals outside the country is no different than a pro-abortion group or any other groups meeting with like minded individuals outside the US.

or the numerous international gun banners who post on this board and demand the US jettison the second amendment.

 

[TurtleDude]

Any of the Pro NRA types ever wonder why they "gambled" 30 mill on a guy who was anti gun most of his adult life?

because the only alternative was someone who has a far worse track record.

 

[Oborosen]

This is why i canceled my membership in the NRA ten years ago.:2wave:

The National Rifle Association acted as a "foreign asset" for Russia in the period leading up to the 2016 election, according to a new investigation unveiled Friday by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon.Drawing on contemporaneous emails and private interviews, an 18-month probe by the Senate Finance Committee's Democratic staff found that the NRA underwrote political access for Russian nationals Maria Butina and Alexander Torshin more than previously known — even though the two had declared their ties to the Kremlin.


NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Finds : NPR

Great, I didn't' realize that DP allowed it's posters to lie directly in the title of their threads like that.