NRA comic called a hoax, but accusations later withdrawn (1 Viewer)

[danarhea]

The comic book, purportedly made by the NRA, loaded with racial images, and leaked to the public, was called a hoax to discredit the NRA over the weekend, but now, that accusation seems to have been withdrawn.

I have been a member of the NRA ever since I took my first gun safety course in the Boy Scouts at the age of 14, so I am following this story intently. I am hoping that this is a hoax, but if it turns out not to be, I plan to quit my membership in the NRA.

True, the NRA has been instrumental in protecting Second Amendment freedoms, but in the last few years, it has a few times become somewhat of a circus. If it wasn't Charlton Heston's antics, which tended to bitterly divide Americans on Second Amendment issues, or Ted Nugent screaming "Semper Fi", although he never served a day in the military, it was holding a rally in Flint, Michigan near a funeral for a little girl who was shot by a little boy in a classroom, and similar F aux Pas, which seem to increase in number every year. IMHO, the NRA is not the same organization it was when I joined, and if it turns out that rascism is now added to the mix, then they can consider me gone.

Article is here.

 

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[danarhea]

Link's broken.

I just tried the link, and it worked. Try clicking it again.

 

[SixStringHero]

I'm very pro 2nd Amendment, but I have never felt the need to be a member of their organization. To me, it seems the NRA can be a tad on the extreme side, much like the ACLU who I am also not a card carrying member.

Only time will tell if this is a hoax or not.

 

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Just looks like your typical NRA-style publication. White guys = good, minorities = bad. I support the NRA's stated goal, but I haven't joined because of the racism & Republicanism. It's always been there, why are you surprised?

 

[shuamort]

Hmm, I'm hoping shenanigans.

Here's a link to the pdf of the full comic book (graphic novel?)

From it:

"Candidates who support the Second Amendment also support you. They're typically pro-business people who fight for free-market issues, from tort and real estate tax reform to immigration policy and the global war on terror."


If that's what the NRA is putting out, I'm really sad. They've gone from fighting a nobel cause (making sure Americans can legally access and own firearms) to another partisan shrill shill. Those positions are solely peripheral at best and deflect from their argument.

 

[SixStringHero]

I'm hoping it's a hoax as well. We all know the ACLU's stance on the right to bear arms, so the NRA doesn't need a black eye such as this.

 

[danarhea]

Just looks like your typical NRA-style publication. White guys = good, minorities = bad. I support the NRA's stated goal, but I haven't joined because of the racism & Republicanism. It's always been there, why are you surprised?

Maybe it was there in some areas, but it was absent in many. They were very active in activities in the Elk's Clubs in Michigan, and did many good things, including involving the Elk's heavily in gun safety, which extended to the Boy Scout troop I was a member of.

Yes, the Elk's were also rascist at one time, but when my father became exalted ruler of 113, he integrated that chapter, and there were many NRA members, who were also members of the Elk's, who assisted him in doing that. My father became pretty well known at the time for that action. My father moved into the state organization of the Elk's because of what he did, and he was also pressured to run for political office, which he refused to do. He hated politics.

I cannot speak for NRA members outside of Michigan, but the ones I knew while growing up were good people.

 

[Goobieman]

OK... looked at the PDF.

Can't say if this is an authentic NRA pamphlet. Given other things I have read from the NRA, it doesnt seem up to the same standard.

But, to the charge of racism:

Theres one, just one, picture that might even be remotely contrued as racist -- the illustration, consistent with the exaggerated style of the rest of the comic, that introduces the section regarding gangs.

http://www.rawprint.com/images/nrf8_perilfinal_fpr.pdf

Now, there are clearly several minorities present, as well as a couple of figures that do not appear to be from any specific race.
Given the composition of most gangs, how is this racist?

The pamphlet focus on the threat posed by gangs of illegal aliens -- Is it racist to inform people about that threat? How?

And the text touches upon all kinds of gangs, from all races, including RUSSIAN gangs.

Racist? Only to those inclined to see it that way. :roll:

 

[danarhea]

OK... looked at the PDF.

Can't say if this is an authentic NRA pamphlet. Given other things I have read from the NRA, it doesnt seem up to the same standard.

But, to the charge of racism:

Theres one, just one, picture that might even be remotely contrued as racist -- the illustration, consistent with the exaggerated style of the rest of the comic, that introduces the section regarding gangs.

http://www.rawprint.com/images/nrf8_perilfinal_fpr.pdf

Now, there are clearly several minorities present, as well as a couple of figures that do not appear to be from any specific race.
Given the composition of most gangs, how is this racist?

The pamphlet focus on the threat posed by gangs of illegal aliens -- Is it racist to inform people about that threat? How?

And the text touches upon all kinds of gangs, from all races, including RUSSIAN gangs.

Racist? Only to those inclined to see it that way. :roll:

In all honesty, I have not read that PDF. Will do so this evening, so that I am better able to make a judgment on the material itself. Once I have done that, I will get back to you.

 

[RightinNYC]

The comic book, purportedly made by the NRA, loaded with racial images

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I am hoping that this is a hoax, but if it turns out not to be, I plan to quit my membership in the NRA.

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IMHO, the NRA is not the same organization it was when I joined, and if it turns out that rascism is now added to the mix, then they can consider me gone.

In all honesty, I have not read that PDF.

You'd think that if you were going to take the type to post a thread regarding a supposed controversy about a "racist" publication, and were actually considering cutting ties with a group you've been a member of for decades, you'd take 3 minutes to actually look at the evidence and make a judgment for yourself rather than have your opinions spoonfed to you by rawstory.

Look at the actual pdf. There's not a damn thing wrong with it. If you want to complain about the NRA becoming increasingly politicized beyond the area of the 2nd amendment, that's a plausible discussion. But nobody in their right mind could read the actual document and see it as racist.

 

[Goobieman]

You'd think that if you were going to take the type to post a thread regarding a supposed controversy about a "racist" publication, and were actually considering cutting ties with a group you've been a member of for decades, you'd take 3 minutes to actually look at the evidence and make a judgment for yourself rather than have your opinions spoonfed to you by rawstory.

Glad you said that. I held my tongue.

 

[Zyphlin]

Wow. So while its for the most part most definitely partisan shilling...I'm not seeing the "racism" here.

They have one caricature in there of dark skinned people next to their section on Illegal Alien Gangs. Racists bastards...they're talking about generally latin American immigrants, why the hell didn't they use typical giant Swedish looking women in the picture! And I mean...why did those swat team looking guys have GUNS in that one picture. Everyone knows SWAT teams don't' use guns...they should've been holding banana's, that'd have made much more sense.

I can understand if people don't like the thing for what is written inside it, but nothing in it struck me as "racists" in the very least. And most of the people crying "Racists" are the type that would turn around and probably laugh at a caricature of a slack jawed yokal in red flanel with a shotgun in hand while chewing tobacco being next to a story about crazy southerns with guns. Really not seeing the "OMG that's crossing the line" part of this