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Now that WMD finding has been debunked, should Hoekstra/Santorum admit their error?

Now that WMD finding has been debunked, should Hoekstra/Santorum admit their error?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 90.0%

  • No

    Votes: 1 5.0%

  • Do nothing and hope that no one reads the mainstream media

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Total voters
    20
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Completely bogus story put out by the drive by media to protect their "Bush lied" action line. Gotta keep that left wing propaganda flowing afterall don't we?
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Prove it is bogus.

I want to know.
 
The Mark said:
Prove it is bogus.

I want to know.
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They made these statements as if they were the official positions of the White House, the CIA, and the DOD, they are not that is a lie they are unofficial comments from anonomous sources ie it's a total b.s. story intended to protect their "Bush lied" action line that they've been running for the last three years, they have so much invested in their anti-war anti-Bush propaganda that they'll do anything to keep the truth from coming out. Propably the most laughable portion is their assertion that WMD from pre 91 is somehow less WMDish. It's a freaking joke.
 
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Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Propably the most laughable portion is their assertion that WMD from pre 91 is somehow less WMDish. It's a freaking joke.
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Context is everything ToT....and I think the Joke can be found here:

Then Secretary of State Colin Powell went to the United Nations for a Show 'N Tell presentation. He passed around recent surveillance photos taken of Iraqi WMD sites. According to Powell, the black-and-white pictures depicted a chemical weapons complex in Al-Musayyib, as well as 15 chemical weapons bunkers in Taji.

but hey....If there were like ,120 degraded shells in each of these bunkers, Powell could have been spot on.
 

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Navy Pride said:
You guys are counting your chickens before they hatch..........Your doing the same thing you did with that Congressman from California and we know what happened there don't we...............

If he does win it has to be a bitter pill from hips to swallow accepting a pro lifer in the fold............Talk about selling out for a senate seat........
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Get a clue! The election in San Diego was in a staunch republican district that would have been a shocking loss for the GOP. The Senatorial election in Pennsylvania is not in a single district dominated by Red or Blue.

Santorum has almost no chance of getting reelected, period. You can "book it" NP, this one is a gimme.

BTW - How come you've often written about the "big tent" that makes up the GOP :rofl but if the Democrats have candidates or elected officials covering a gamut of views you call it a sell out? That is bullshit. Your logic means that it Guilliani gets the GOP nomination that you would be swallowing a bitter pill?

I just think you're unable to be a gracious loser and that pride interferes with your ability to write logical conclusions. The stuff you come up with is uniquely you and so often is not based in truth or fact. Don't you realize that we who read your posts completely understand where you're comng from?
 
Navy Pride said:
You guys are counting your chickens before they hatch..........Your doing the same thing you did with that Congressman from California and we know what happened there don't we...............

If he does win it has to be a bitter pill from hips to swallow accepting a pro lifer in the fold............Talk about selling out for a senate seat........
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I am willing to take the bitter pill. Santorum is going down. That is one race I feel almost 100% sure that Santorum will lose. Look, even he knows it (and I revel in that fact, as evidenced by his pathetic assertion of "We found WMDs" LOL).
 
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Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Total lie your story is completely bogus just who did the Post cite from the CIA, the White House, and the DOD? Unofficial anonomous sources? Well good for them, according to my anonomous sources from the DOD, the CIA, and the White House, the Santorum account is completely accurate, prove me wrong.
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Yeah, the Washington Post provides articles based on lies. It's why it is rated as one of best newspapers out there. LOL

Let's not forget who exposed the Nixon Administration for the lying sack of poop that it was. The good ol' Washington Post.
 
Kandahar said:
Well I'm not big on political labels, but I'll give it a shot: Evan Bayh is fairly conservative. Joe Lieberman is a conservative. Mark Pryor of Arkansas.



No they didn't. No one predicted that except you apparently.



No. *I* know what goes on in PA and *I* know what goes on in MD. You may or may not know what goes on in PA...and in this case you clearly don't.
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1. They are all 3 moderates.......Do you think a big left winger like Gore would pick Leiberman as his running mate?.........Pryor and Bayh vote with this caucus 90% of the time.

2. Wrong again, the left wing pundits were so buoyed by the polls they predicted it would be the first step in taking back the HOR...

3. Yeah right you know what goes on in Pa. more then the people who live there.:roll:
 
Originally posted by Navy Pride:
Yeah right you know what goes on in Pa. more then the people who live there.
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It's a small world after all. I virtually this very same thing to the (recently proclaimed, "non-partisan") TOT when we were discussing electrical services in Iraq today. I'll give you 3 guesses what side his arguement fell on (and the first 2 don't count).
 
Originally Posted by Navy Pride
You guys are counting your chickens before they hatch..........Your doing the same thing you did with that Congressman from California and we know what happened there don't we...............

If he does win it has to be a bitter pill from hips to swallow accepting a pro lifer in the fold............Talk about selling out for a senate seat........
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Originally Posted by 26X Champs
Get a clue! The election in San Diego was in a staunch republican district that would have been a shocking loss for the GOP. The Senatorial election in Pennsylvania is not in a single district dominated by Red or Blue.

Santorum has almost no chance of getting reelected, period. You can "book it" NP, this one is a gimme.

BTW - How come you've often written about the "big tent" that makes up the GOP but if the Democrats have candidates or elected officials covering a gamut of views you call it a sell out? That is bullshit. Your logic means that it Guilliani gets the GOP nomination that you would be swallowing a bitter pill?

I just think you're unable to be a gracious loser and that pride interferes with your ability to write logical conclusions. The stuff you come up with is uniquely you and so often is not based in truth or fact. Don't you realize that we who read your posts completely understand where you're comng from?
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If you two had a show on FOX (much like the Beltway Boys), who would be Liddy and who would be Leary?
 
Billo_Really said:
If you two had a show on FOX (much like the Beltway Boys), who would be Liddy and who would be Leary?
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Don'tthink I could sit across the table from someone so full of hate.....I would rather do it with you...We are on different side of the political spectrum but we are friends and I don't think you hate me.....
 
Originally posted by Navy Pride:
Don'tthink I could sit across the table from someone so full of hate.....I would rather do it with you...We are on different side of the political spectrum but we are friends and I don't think you hate me.....
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That's just the first thing that pops into my head everytime I see you two go back and forth.

G. Gordon and Timmy...

You are correct though regarding my feelings. I have learned to like (and respect) you in spite of our bi-polar political views. Much like I have with GySgt. When you look at this on a macro-level, this is one of the best examples Americans could export to the ME. Our ability to discuss the issues with two vehemently opposite and passionate views all the while maintaining the lines of communication open and actually listening and understanding the other side (albeit not agreeing with it).

OK, I'm off my soap box...

...will someone kill the America the Beautiful music?
 
Billo_Really said:
That's just the first thing that pops into my head everytime I see you two go back and forth.

G. Gordon and Timmy...

You are correct though regarding my feelings. I have learned to like (and respect) you in spite of our bi-polar political views. Much like I have with GySgt. When you look at this on a macro-level, this is one of the best examples Americans could export to the ME. Our ability to discuss the issues with two vehemently opposite and passionate views all the while maintaining the lines of communication open and actually listening and understanding the other side (albeit not agreeing with it).

OK, I'm off my soap box...

...will someone kill the America the Beautiful music?
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Thank you my friend, pretty much my sentiments to..............Go Steelers!!!!
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
They made these statements as if they were the official positions of the White House, the CIA, and the DOD, they are not that is a lie they are unofficial comments from anonomous sources ie it's a total b.s. story intended to protect their "Bush lied" action line that they've been running for the last three years, they have so much invested in their anti-war anti-Bush propaganda that they'll do anything to keep the truth from coming out. Propably the most laughable portion is their assertion that WMD from pre 91 is somehow less WMDish. It's a freaking joke.
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Ok, I'll buy that......unless or untill your statement is proven wrong by another.

So, excepting the information about 500+ WMD's being found in Iraq as fact (everyone seems to agree that this is true at least), what is your response to this discovery?
 
Originally posted by Navy Pride:
Thank you my friend, pretty much my sentiments to..............Go Steelers!!!!
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Why thank you Pri............huh..............wha.............Go Ste...............Hey, you crossed the line!
 
The Mark said:
Ok, I'll buy that......unless or untill your statement is proven wrong by another.

So, excepting the information about 500+ WMD's being found in Iraq as fact (everyone seems to agree that this is true at least), what is your response to this discovery?
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I'll believe the words of two senators before I'll believe some anonomous unofficial sources.
 
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tecoyah said:
Context is everything ToT....and I think the Joke can be found here:

Then Secretary of State Colin Powell went to the United Nations for a Show 'N Tell presentation. He passed around recent surveillance photos taken of Iraqi WMD sites. According to Powell, the black-and-white pictures depicted a chemical weapons complex in Al-Musayyib, as well as 15 chemical weapons bunkers in Taji.

but hey....If there were like ,120 degraded shells in each of these bunkers, Powell could have been spot on.
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I'm sorry where in the Joint Resolution of Congress authorizing the use of force against Iraq or in the U.N. resolutions does it state that the WMD has to be from post-91? WMD is WMD anyway you slice it this stuff was supposed to be destroyed, Saddam said it was destroyed, and the fact that it wasn't destroyed proves that Saddam was in violation of the U.N. resolutions stipulated in the ceasefire agreement.
 
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aps said:
Yeah, the Washington Post provides articles based on lies. It's why it is rated as one of best newspapers out there. LOL

Let's not forget who exposed the Nixon Administration for the lying sack of poop that it was. The good ol' Washington Post.
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Rated by who?
 
aps said:
Sorry, but it appears that the WMD claimed by them aren't what they hoped they would be.
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This is a bogus smokescreen that has already been addressed.

Bush's claim wasn't that Saddam had only new WMD. It was that Saddam was a known terror-sponsor who possessed WMD.

This has now been proved. Have some integrity, and stop trying to perpetuate the lie.

The Left's core complaint against the war in invalidated by the weapons find. The fact that the media is playing along with this BS excuse about the age of the WMD is a testament to how liberal the "mainstream" media is.

Get over it. :lol:
 
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Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Rated by who?
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By everyone.

The Washington Post is the largest and oldest newspaper in Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States. It gained worldwide fame in the early 1970s for its Watergate investigation by reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, which played a major role in the undoing of the Nixon presidency. It is generally considered among the best daily American newspapers along with The New York Times, which is known for its general reporting and international coverage, The Wall Street Journal, which is known for its financial reporting, and the Los Angeles Times. The Post, unsurprisingly, has distinguished itself through its reporting on the workings of the White House, Congress, and other aspects of the U.S. government. . . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post
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You don't get this kind of reptuation when you provide articles with lies.
 
aquapub said:
This is a bogus smokescreen that has already been addressed.

Bush's claim wasn't that Saddam had only new WMD. It was that Saddam was a known terror-sponsor who possessed WMD.

This has now been proved. Have some integrity, and stop trying to perpetuate the lie.

The Left's core complaint against the war in invalidated by the weapons find. The fact that the media is playing along with this BS excuse about the age of the WMD is a testament to how liberal the "mainstream" media is.

Get over it. :lol:
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Yeah yeah yeah, aquapub. The only onw perpetuating a lie is you and the other right-wingers on this website. It's humorous to watch you all get all bent out of shape over the debunking of the WMD theory. :lol:

I have been over this a long time ago. The majority of Americans feel that Iraq was a mistake and want our troops to come home. Did you know that? ;)
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
I'll believe the words of two senators before I'll believe some anonomous unofficial sources.
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Makes sense. Who knows what those unofficial sources were.
 
aps said:
Yeah yeah yeah, aquapub. The only onw perpetuating a lie is you and the other right-wingers on this website. It's humorous to watch you all get all bent out of shape over the debunking of the WMD theory. :lol:

I have been over this a long time ago. The majority of Americans feel that Iraq was a mistake and want our troops to come home. Did you know that? ;)
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It appears that everyone in the marching band is out of step, on the wrong foot except Aquapub.:mrgreen:
 
Originally posted by Captain America
It appears that everyone in the marching band is out of step, on the wrong foot except Aquapub.
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Why is your gallery more popular than mine? You got some sort of fan club going on? Are you handing out door prizes which should be against DP rules? I'm going to report you! What, exactly, I don't know yet. But I'll make something up.

I hate you...
 
Billo_Really said:
Why is your gallery more popular than mine? You got some sort of fan club going on? Are you handing out door prizes which should be against DP rules? I'm going to report you! What, exactly, I don't know yet. But I'll make something up.

I hate you...
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Awwww Billo....... nothing personal. Hate is such a strong word. :mrgreen:

Actually, I do have a fan club, sorta, but they don't know anything about my Debate Politics getaway. So you won't see any here.

Perhaps it's just the girlies here that want to catch a glimpse of the man that can lick his eyebrows :shock:

Not bird or plane nor even frog,
Just lil' ol' me.....Captain America..........

No rock stars here people....move along.;)
 
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