Note to President Bush

[Conflict]

What financial links does the Bush administration have to Halliburton? Where is the conflict of interests if Halliburton profits how does the the Bush administration benefit? If you cannot back up your claims then why do you make them are you just a brainwashed liberal or can you think for yourself?

I don't think one needs to look much further past the (retrospective) executive roster of any forementioned corporations to determine a conflict of interest.. heck that is the lighter issue. I thought we were talking about treason?

Take it for what's it's worth Tribulus... I am done responding to you on this thread. All things in in good time my friend.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

I don't think one needs to look much further past the (retrospective) executive roster of any forementioned corporations to determine a conflict of interest.. heck that is the lighter issue. I thought we were talking about treason?

Take it for what's it's worth Tribulus... I am done responding to you on this thread. All things in in good time my friend.

Why don't you just say Cheney, is it perhaps you know that I have uncontrovertable proof that the claim that Cheney profits from Halliburton is a total fabrication and libelous slander against a good mans name? Maybe you should take your ball and go home and have a nice cry since you obviously have nothing useful to add to the debate.

 

[alphieb]

Dear useful idiot hypocrit liberal elitests and their subservient akolytes:

Why do you continue to attempt to redefine treason as patriotism? Why do you call our troops terrorists? Why do you side with the enemy that blew up the world trade? Why do you create insane conspiracy theories? Why do you think Bush is worse than Bin Ladin? Why do you think that it's o.k. to steal from the average American then give what you take to the people who don't deserve it and call it helping the poor when you keep your money in tax exempt off shore accounts? Why do you claim to despise capitalism yet invest in companies; such as, Halliburton? Why do you claim to support affirmative action yet not hire minorities to work for you? ccc? Why have you supported communist genocidal regimes throughout the world for the last three decades? Why are you all liers who continue to misrepresent the truth at every turn? Why do you continue to attempt to erect an Orwellian state? Why do you hate capitalism? Why do you hate America? Why do you want to create a one world government of a socialist nature despite the proof that socialism doesn't work? Why are you opposed to individualism and individual responsobility? Why do you share talking points with AlQaeda and Osamma bin Ladin? Why do you put partisan politics above our nations security? Why do you have selective amnesia in that you claim that terrorism isn't a threat allthough 9-11 was only 4 years ago? Why do you want Saddam back in power? Why do you want to tie the hands of the military? Why do you go to energy conservation meetings in your private jets? Why do you support genocide and/or contend that it is only a myth? Why do you hate the constitution and the Bill of Rights especially the 1st amendment? Why do you attempt to rewrite history even the events of the last five years? Why do you use the tactics of the nazis in your war against free speech and open debate? Why don't you win elections? (the answer should be obvious by now) real Americans hate you and all that you stand for.


Sincerely,

The Radical liberals worst enemy and nightmare . . . a conservative
Reactionary.


P.S. see ya in 06 ****ers it's gonna be a good year that we vote even more of you out of office, replace you with real Americans, and take away your powers of fillibuster by getting a 60 vote majority,

"Why do you call our troops terrorists"?

That is a new one, show me one link where the Dems have called our troops terrorist?

"Why do you think Bush is worse than Bin Ladin"?

That is not the case, but more focus should be placed on capturing Bin Laden.

"Why do you compare the saviors of Democracy and freedom to Nazi
Germany"

No idea what your talking about, false claims made up in your head.

"Why do you hate America"?

America was built on Democracy, that makes no sense.

In another post you mentioned Social Security reform, Bush has done nothing about this issue. http://www.socialsecurityreform.org Bush has cut taxes, wow that helps SS for your future elderly. What it benefits is the wealthy, no link needed for common sense. Your right Clinton did take a stance on this unlike King Bush. Clinton also condoned and supported National Health reform.

Where are your links to back this bogus info, which is strongly biased.

You also mention the Dems are keeping the low class down for personal gain, ha what a myth. It is entirely up to the individual to help themselves. Thanks to the republications, college aid has been cut. Perhaps that holds them down a little, ya think? This didn't sound very conservative of you? Are you the hypocrite?

 

[argexpat]

desperate hate filled opinion
desperate hate filled opinion
desperate hate filled opinion
desperate hate filled opinion

Wow, KCConservative, you were able to use your prodigious intellectual acumen to discern that I hate Bush. Amazing! And here I was trying to hide it. What part of my post gave it away?

P.S. Your scathing rebuttal: "desperate hate filled opinion," while devestating, loses a bit of its luster after the third time you repeat it. You might try mixing it up with some great adjectives I've used to describe some of your posts, such as inane, vapid, ignorant and assinine. Give it a try!

 

[argexpat]

Dear useful idiot hypocrit liberal elitests and their subservient akolytes:

Wow, Trajan, I think you just set the world's record for most inane strawman arguments in a single post...congrats!

 

[argexpat]

Actually I can provide firm documentation of liberals doing everything I just said (if you want me to I'll give it to you I got the time) I challenge you to provide the same evidence of the Right.

Trajan, who are these "liberals" you speak of? Are they like "the jews" or "the negroes"?

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Trajan, who are these "liberals" you speak of? Are they like "the jews" or "the negroes"?

lmfao no son they are the radical leftists who took over the Democratic party after the 1968 DNC riots in Chicago, they are the majority of Democrats in the Senate the House and on the Supreme Court and the liberally biased media, they believe in Big Government, political bribery, and socialism, they are rich liberal elitests like George Soros who says for me to give my money to the poor and keeps his in tax exempt offshore accounts, it's not a conspiracy theory you can learn all about liberals in a poli sci class, the majority of them are far left socialists who hate capitalism they hate the U.S. and they wanted the Soviet Union to win the Cold War or at the very least not to lose it. I actually went over who these liberals were in the last page if you don't want to look then fine keep living in denial.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

"Why do you call our troops terrorists"?

That is a new one, show me one link where the Dems have called our troops terrorist?

"Why do you think Bush is worse than Bin Ladin"?

That is not the case, but more focus should be placed on capturing Bin Laden.

"Why do you compare the saviors of Democracy and freedom to Nazi
Germany"

No idea what your talking about, false claims made up in your head.

"Why do you hate America"?

America was built on Democracy, that makes no sense.

In another post you mentioned Social Security reform, Bush has done nothing about this issue. http://www.socialsecurityreform.org Bush has cut taxes, wow that helps SS for your future elderly. What it benefits is the wealthy, no link needed for common sense. Your right Clinton did take a stance on this unlike King Bush. Clinton also condoned and supported National Health reform.

Where are your links to back this bogus info, which is strongly biased.

You also mention the Dems are keeping the low class down for personal gain, ha what a myth. It is entirely up to the individual to help themselves. Thanks to the republications, college aid has been cut. Perhaps that holds them down a little, ya think? This didn't sound very conservative of you? Are you the hypocrite?

Well look at post 21 where I back up my statements I haven't gotten around to the other half but I will becaue the whole statement is true.

 

[alphieb]

Well look at post 21 where I back up my statements I haven't gotten around to the other half but I will becaue the whole statement is true.

These claims you make are pure utter speculation with nothing but your words to back it up.

King Bush has created a new monarchy, He soley, aside from Rumsfeld, wanted this war. They got it......How? They had to bully their way around to get support from congress so they could claim it is a constitutional war.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

These claims you make are pure utter speculation with nothing but your words to back it up.

King Bush has created a new monarchy, He soley, aside from Rumsfeld, wanted this war. They got it......How? They had to bully their way around to get support from congress so they could claim it is a constitutional war.

It was not speculation I backed it up with fact if you want to live in denial as to the true nature of liberal leftist elitest be my guest.

 

[argexpat]

lmfao no son they are the radical leftists who took over the Democratic party after the 1968 DNC riots in Chicago, they are the majority of Democrats in the Senate the House and on the Supreme Court and the liberally biased media, they believe in Big Government, political bribery, and socialism, they are rich liberal elitests like George Soros who says for me to give my money to the poor and keeps his in tax exempt offshore accounts, it's not a conspiracy theory you can learn all about liberals in a poli sci class, the majority of them are far left socialists who hate capitalism they hate the U.S. and they wanted the Soviet Union to win the Cold War or at the very least not to lose it. I actually went over who these liberals were in the last page if you don't want to look then fine keep living in denial.

Let me see if I have this straight: a majority of the Democrats in Congress and the "liberally biased media" hate capitalism and the United States, wish the Soviet Union had won the Cold War, and are secretly plotting a communist revolution? And George Soros, a fabulously rich capitalist, is part of this cabal who wants to overthrow capitalism, and told you to give your money to the poor while he squirrels his billions away?

You know what, Trajan, you're right, this doesn't sound like a conspiracy theory at all, this makes perfect sense. This explains everything! The liberals must have been responsible for 9/11! It's all so clear to me now! Then what are we doing here on our computers? We need to declare war on those evil liberals! We need to flush them out, round them up, and then get rid of them. They're a scourge that must be eradicated! Let's mobilize the true patriots and go kick some liberal ass! No more appeasing these traitors, this calls for a Final Solution! C'mon, Trajan, are you with me!

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Let me see if I have this straight: a majority of the Democrats in Congress and the "liberally biased media" hate capitalism and the United States, wish the Soviet Union had won the Cold War, and are secretly plotting a communist revolution? And George Soros, a fabulously rich capitalist, is part of this cabal who wants to overthrow capitalism, and told you to give your money to the poor while he squirrels his billions away?

You know what, Trajan, you're right, this doesn't sound like a conspiracy theory at all, this makes perfect sense. This explains everything! The liberals must have been responsible for 9/11! It's all so clear to me now! Then what are we doing here on our computers? We need to declare war on those evil liberals! We need to flush them out, round them up, and then get rid of them. They're a scourge that must be eradicated! Let's mobilize the true patriots and go kick some liberal ass! No more appeasing these traitors, this calls for a Final Solution! C'mon, Trajan, are you with me!

It's not that they want a socialist revolution they want to use the principles of socialism to retain their own power and wealth they take our money and redistribute it to those they deem in need in effect putting up road blocks to social mobility of the best and the brightest amongst us, but they keep their own money in tax-exempt offshore accounts where it is safe. They want to eliminate social mobility to ensure that they remain at the top of the socio-economic latter while keeping the poor at the bottom. Social programs serve two goals A) political bribery to ensure the perpetual need for the state and the liberal elite, and B) to keep individualism out of the picture so that the poor do not better themselves and come to threaten the power structure. The rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.

 

[argexpat]

It's not that they want a socialist revolution they want to use the principles of socialism to retain their own power and wealth they take our money and redistribute it to those they deem in need in effect putting up road blocks to social mobility of the best and the brightest amongst us, but they keep their own money in tax-exempt offshore accounts where it is safe. They want to eliminate social mobility to ensure that they remain at the top of the socio-economic latter while keeping the poor at the bottom. Social programs serve two goals A) political bribery to ensure the perpetual need for the state and the liberal elite, and B) to keep individualism out of the picture so that the poor do not better themselves and come to threaten the power structure. The rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.

So to you the rich and "the liberals" are one and the same. They're synonymous. If you're rich, then you're a liberal; if you're a liberal, then you're rich. Hmm. So there are no rich Republicans? There are no poor liberals? And the rich---who are also all liberals---are using socialism to "redistribute wealth" and thus keep themselves rich and the poor poor.

It's amazing, but you've actually managed to simultaneously spout Marxist AND Republican crackpot theories all in one breath. So The Man is a rich capitalist liberal, and he's keeping you down! Wow...you must suffer from an extreme case of intellectual whiplash.

Please explain to me how a single social program has kept you from getting rich or being "socially mobile."

Also, please define "liberal."

 

[mixedmedia]

So to you the rich and "the liberals" are one and the same. They're synonymous. If you're rich, then you're a liberal; if you're a liberal, then you're rich. Hmm. So there are no rich Republicans? There are no poor liberals? And the rich---who are also all liberals---are using socialism to "redistribute wealth" and thus keep themselves rich and the poor poor.

It's amazing, but you've actually managed to simultaneously spout Marxist AND Republican crackpot theories all in one breath. So The Man is a rich capitalist liberal, and he's keeping you down! Wow...you must suffer from an extreme case of intellectual whiplash.

Please explain to me how a single social program has kept you from getting rich or being "socially mobile."

Also, please define "liberal."

No kidding, so who's gonna break the news to Rupert Murdoch and Sumner Redstone that they're liberals. :rofl

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

So to you the rich and "the liberals" are one and the same. They're synonymous. If you're rich, then you're a liberal; if you're a liberal, then you're rich. Hmm. So there are no rich Republicans? There are no poor liberals? And the rich---who are also all liberals---are using socialism to "redistribute wealth" and thus keep themselves rich and the poor poor.

It's amazing, but you've actually managed to simultaneously spout Marxist AND Republican crackpot theories all in one breath. So The Man is a rich capitalist liberal, and he's keeping you down! Wow...you must suffer from an extreme case of intellectual whiplash.

Please explain to me how a single social program has kept you from getting rich or being "socially mobile."

Also, please define "liberal."

Nope the rich elitists guarantee their power through the dissatisfaction of the poor through political bribery, the liberals end social mobility through social programs, they keep their power base through social programs thus creating the perpetual need for big government and to ensure that the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.

example one) Ted Kennedy is all for welfare programs and the taxation of the middle and lower class and a death tax but keeps his money in a tax exempt offshore account.

It's called liberal elitism look it up.

 

[Thorgasm]

Nope the rich elitists guarantee their power through the dissatisfaction of the poor through political bribery, the liberals end social mobility through social programs, they keep their power base through social programs thus creating the perpetual need for big government and to ensure that the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.

example one) Ted Kennedy is all for welfare programs and the taxation of the middle and lower class and a death tax but keeps his money in a tax exempt offshore account.

It's called liberal elitism look it up.

I certainly hope that a professor isn't feeding you this philosophy.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

I certainly hope that a professor isn't feeding you this philosophy.

Why, because you would rather that they feed me the same socialist lies that have plagued universities for the last three decades?

 

[Thorgasm]

Why, because you would rather that they feed me the same socialist lies that have plagued universities for the last three decades?

No, I would rather they be critical thinkers who don't use emotional hyperbole and logic fallacies.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

No, I would rather they be critical thinkers who don't use emotional hyperbole and logic fallacies.

Oh you mean like the socialist teachers that I put up with daily who preach Marx on the false premise that he was right? Like those logical fallacies?

 

[alphieb]

Nope the rich elitists guarantee their power through the dissatisfaction of the poor through political bribery, the liberals end social mobility through social programs, they keep their power base through social programs thus creating the perpetual need for big government and to ensure that the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.

example one) Ted Kennedy is all for welfare programs and the taxation of the middle and lower class and a death tax but keeps his money in a tax exempt offshore account.

It's called liberal elitism look it up.

I have mentioned this to you before and of course you ignored me, but the liberals support welfare so the poor will not starve. It is up to the individual to rise above and help themselves. How are they holding them down? Do they provide anchors for the poor? The Republicans cut financial aid for education. How is that helping?

 

[Thorgasm]

Oh you mean like the socialist teachers that I put up with daily who preach Marx on the false premise that he was right? Like those logical fallacies?

No, I mean professors who don't teach which ideology or philosphy is right.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

I have mentioned this to you before and of course you ignored me, but the liberals support welfare so the poor will not starve. It is up to the individual to rise above and help themselves. How are they holding them down? Do they provide anchors for the poor? The Republicans cut financial aid for education. How is that helping?

Oh you mean the Republicans cut out Clinton's communist wealth distribution programs where he stole approximately 30% of my pay check when I was 16 and working at McDonalds so I got about 70 dollars out of a hundred dollar pay check and I was claimed as a dependent so I wasn't eligable for the benefits that others were getting on the back of my labor. That's how it hurts the poor sister it hurts young kids trying to get ahead by busting their asses and stealing their money and giving it away to someone who doesn't deserve it. If you want to each according to his needs then move to China but this is America you've got to work for what you get and I don't owe nobody nothing.

 

[oldreliable67]

No, I mean professors who don't teach which ideology or philosphy is right.

Oh, lordy, I hope we've not been reduced to relying on professors to tell us which ideology or philosophy is right!!! If that is indeed the case, then we are in bigger trouble than I thought.

But if so, how would we know if they are right in knowing what is right?

Are we not supposed to be able to think any more?

Whatever happened to critical thinking? Thoughtful analysis? Pragmatism? Objectivity? Careful consideration of alternatives?

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

I have mentioned this to you before and of course you ignored me, but the liberals support welfare so the poor will not starve. It is up to the individual to rise above and help themselves. How are they holding them down? Do they provide anchors for the poor? The Republicans cut financial aid for education. How is that helping?

Yes the taxes are anchors on the hard working poor and middle class families, when you redistribute wealth that money still comes from some where it just doesn't magically fall out of the sky and land in the pockets of the jobless wonders who would rather smoke crack and drink from noon to sun up rather than to get a job, this money is taken out of the peoples pockets who actually work for a living.

 

[Stace]

Yes the taxes are anchors on the hard working poor and middle class families, when you redistribute wealth that money still comes from some where it just doesn't magically fall out of the sky and land in the pockets of the jobless wonders who would rather smoke crack and drink from noon to sun up rather than to get a job, this money is taken out of the peoples pockets who actually work for a living.

Except....welfare is for people that DO have jobs. Unemployment is for people that have lost their jobs (i.e. been laid off, not fired), and at least here in NC, you can only be on unemployment for a year. Welfare helps supplement people that live below the poverty line.