"Not my daddy," she cried. "Not my daddy!"

[Chanda]

"Not my daddy!" she cried. "Not my daddy!"

The heartbreaking cost of this war:

Seven-year-old Cierra Becker looked out the window of her Anchorage home Tuesday and saw the men in uniform walking solemnly to the door.

Cierra knew.

"Not my daddy!" she cried. "Not my daddy!"

But it was her daddy. Staff Sgt. Shane Becker, 35, a paratrooper stationed at Fort Richardson and Cierra's father, died in a firefight Tuesday morning south of Baghdad in Iraq. This is what the men who came to the door Tuesday told his wife, Crystal, Cierra and the new baby, Cheyenna, born in February.

adn.com | Iraq : 9/11 pulled him back to Army

 

[Captain America]

Thanks again President Bush.

BUSH SUCKS!

 

[tecoyah]

This is the cost of warfare, and has been the case since mankind decided killing each other was a good way to resolve conflict. Blaming Bush for these deaths is not going to make this little girl and her mother feel better, nor will it make anyone else a better person to do so.
There are alot of places to lay blame if its required. The actual person who killed him, the country he was in, the religion of the society, the generals who run the war, the commander who gave the assignment....even the man himself for being there instead of at home with his family.
This serves a very limited purpose in the grand scheme, and does no good whatsoever in reality. We seem to be blaming everyone but ourselves for these deaths, when we all, are in fact as guilty as any other when it comes down to it. Americans in general allowed this conflict to become a War, and it is time we accepted our role in this whole mess. Its time we stopped apologizing to little girls without Daddys, and gave the lucky ones back the fathers who love them.

This, it seems to me, is the only true way to repay these people, who fight for us, and die for us every day.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Re: "Not my daddy!" she cried. "Not my daddy!"

The heartbreaking cost of this war:

adn.com | Iraq : 9/11 pulled him back to Army

Pure appeal to emotion fallacy, no substance just blather. War makes widows and war makes orphans, tell us something we don't know.

 

[Captain America]

Americans in general allowed this conflict to become a War, and it is time we accepted our role in this whole mess. Its time we stopped apologizing to little girls without Daddys, and gave the lucky ones back the fathers who love them.

Bring them home. Now.

This makes for a much better story. Don't you agree?

YouTube - Emotional Reunion - Sailor Suprises 6 year old Son at School

 

[Captain America]

Re: "Not my daddy!" she cried. "Not my daddy!"

Pure appeal to emotion fallacy, no substance just blather. War makes widows and war makes orphans, tell us something we don't know.

Appealing to emotional distraught over 9/11 got us to support Mr. Bush's Halliburton war. And that was acceptable to the pro-war folks. So maybe emotional appeal might work to get us out of this quagmire. Sounds like a play straight out of the Rove playbook if you ask me.

Reminds me of a country song of recent called Old Red by Blake Shelton. "Love got us in and love got us out."

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

This, it seems to me, is the only true way to repay these people, who fight for us, and die for us every day.

How? By surrendering Iraq to the terrorists so as to make those who died to have died for nothing? Ya that's a great way to repay these people. :roll:

 

[Captain America]

It matters not when we leave. The place is going to implode. I prefer not to postpone the enevitable myself. The "terrorists," as you call them, are long overdue for their own, personal, great day of reckoning. It has nothing to do with us. The civil war is raging right under your nose, deny it as you will. They are their own worst enemy. If you care at all for our troops, support getting them away from that powderkeg. You can't stop the rain. The best you can do is take cover.

Mushroom cloud. Terrorists. Died for nothing.

Talk about emotional blather. :roll:

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Re: "Not my daddy!" she cried. "Not my daddy!"

Appealing to emotional distraught over 9/11 got us to support Mr. Bush's Halliburton war.

A) Saying that the world changed after 9-11 and tyrannical regimes like Saddams can no longer be tolerated in this new era is not an appeal to emotion, it's a fact.

B) Bush nor Cheney profit from Halliburton.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

It matters not when we leave.

According to you.

The place is going to implode.

Again according to you.

I prefer not to postpone the enevitable myself.

Yes we know you and your ilk want America's defeat and terrorist victory as quickly as possible.

The "terrorists," as you call them,

As I call them? What would you call them?

are long overdue for their own, personal, great day of reckoning.

Ya and they'll get that by handing them Iraq on a silver platter alright. :roll:

It has nothing to do with us.

It has everything to do with us.

The civil war is raging right under your nose, deny it as you will.

There exists in Iraq a coalition government containing both Shia and Sunni representatives, that's a pretty odd civil war if you ask me.

They are their own worst enemy. If you care at all for our troops, support getting them away from that powderkeg. You can't stop the rain. The best you can do is take cover.

Ahh, leftist double speak, "support our troops by calling for their surrender and defeat," what a load of horseshit.

Mushroom cloud.

All 16 members of the U.S. intelligence community concluded with high confidence that Saddam was reconsituting his nuclear proliferation projects.

Terrorists.

Ya umm what would you call them?

Died for nothing.

If Iraq is handed over to the terrorists then what will they have died for exactly? That's right nothing.

Talk about emotional blather. :roll:

 

[Captain America]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....................

 

[Chanda]

Blaming Bush for these deaths is not going to make this little girl and her mother feel better, nor will it make anyone else a better person to do so.

I blame Bush. He wanted a war with Iraq from the beginning of his presidency when he asked his cabinet to "find a way." He appointed members of PNAC to his administration who had advocated war with Iraq for nearly a decade. 9/11 provided the Pearl Harbor event that PNAC stated it would need to wage a series of wars in the Middle East. Bush managed to connect Iraq to 9/11 in the minds of enough people that his war had popular support in the beginning. When the war lost support and many believed it was unwinnable and not worth it, Bush insisted on staying the course, even escalating the war. He told us he was "the decider," and no one could have stopped him from having his war. I think a lot of people will feel better when Bush is held accountable for his war crimes and justice is served. No, it won't bring this little girl's daddy back, but it might prevent another war waged on lies.

 

[1069]

Yes we know you and your ilk want America's defeat and terrorist victory as quickly as possible.

I wonder if most of us actually talk the way we write on this forum.
Somehow, I can't imagine TOT stalking up to someone in real life and snarling, "Yes, yes... we know you and your ilk want America's defeat and terrorist victory as quickly as possible. Bwahahaha!"

It sounds like something a comic book supervillain would say.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

I wonder if most of us actually talk the way we write on this forum.
Somehow, I can't imagine TOT stalking up to someone in real life and snarling, "Yes, yes... we know you and your ilk want America's defeat and terrorist victory as quickly as possible. Bwahahaha!"

It sounds like something a comic book supervillain would say.

Truth hurts does it?

 

[1069]

Truth hurts does it?

Not particularly.
I'm not convinced, however, that your heavy-handed partisan melodramatics constitute "the truth".

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Yes we know you and your ilk want America's defeat and terrorist victory as quickly as possible.


Ahh, leftist double speak, "support our troops by calling for their surrender and defeat," what a load of horseshit.

I'm always amused by comments like these. They are nothing but hysterical, partisan overreactions that make no sense, especially when I've never seen anyone call for America's defeat or surrender or seen anyone adequately define what winning the war means.

 

[Chanda]

Happier ending, still a tearjerker

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kerMm0HG1mk[/youtube]

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

I'm always amused by comments like these. They are nothing but hysterical, partisan overreactions that make no sense, especially when I've never seen anyone call for America's defeat or surrender or seen anyone adequately define what winning the war means.

Calling for a troop withdrawal date at the end of the year is calling for the U.S. to surrender.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Calling for a troop withdrawal date at the end of the year is calling for the U.S. to surrender.

If how to win the war is unclear, why would removing the troops be equivalent to surrendering?

 

[Iriemon]

This is the cost of warfare, and has been the case since mankind decided killing each other was a good way to resolve conflict. Blaming Bush for these deaths is not going to make this little girl and her mother feel better, nor will it make anyone else a better person to do so.
There are alot of places to lay blame if its required. The actual person who killed him, the country he was in, the religion of the society, the generals who run the war, the commander who gave the assignment....even the man himself for being there instead of at home with his family.
This serves a very limited purpose in the grand scheme, and does no good whatsoever in reality. We seem to be blaming everyone but ourselves for these deaths, when we all, are in fact as guilty as any other when it comes down to it. Americans in general allowed this conflict to become a War, and it is time we accepted our role in this whole mess. Its time we stopped apologizing to little girls without Daddys, and gave the lucky ones back the fathers who love them.

This, it seems to me, is the only true way to repay these people, who fight for us, and die for us every day.

"We're all at fault" is a nice liberal catchism, here employed to excuse "He Who Shall Remain Blameless."

This was the Bush/neocon war from before the getgo. I do find fault with those in the opposition who did not have the foresight to question what was happening.

This is the pass the buck presidency, no doubt. But for the war in Iraq, the buckaroo stops right at the WH and its neocon administration.

 

[Iriemon]

...
Yes we know you and your ilk want America's defeat and terrorist victory as quickly as possible.
...

Yes we know you and your ilk want more US soldiers to die for a
"mistake."

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Yes we know you and your ilk want more US soldiers to die for a
"mistake."

Liberating over 20 million people from a brutal dictator who was harboring terrorists who had attacked the U.S. on our soil, who attacked U.S. aircraft in the no-fly zone on a daily basis, who was engaging in crimes against humanity against the Kurds in the north and the Shia in the south, and who had attempted to murder one of our former Presidents, was a mistake?

 

[tecoyah]

"We're all at fault" is a nice liberal catchism, here employed to excuse "He Who Shall Remain Blameless."

This was the Bush/neocon war from before the getgo. I do find fault with those in the opposition who did not have the foresight to question what was happening.

This is the pass the buck presidency, no doubt. But for the war in Iraq, the buckaroo stops right at the WH and its neocon administration.

AND....Who exactly, voted him into office? Either by voting for him, of not voting at all. The American people, collectively allowed this to happen, by failing to stop it in the first place. I did not vote for Bush....But I didnt vote for Kerry either (I did vote for Gore though). Point is, the chance was given us as a society to change this course....and we failed to do so.

 

[Iriemon]

Liberating over 20 million people from a brutal dictator who was harboring terrorists who had attacked the U.S. on our soil, who attacked U.S. aircraft in the no-fly zone on a daily basis, who was engaging in crimes against humanity against the Kurds in the north and the Shia in the south, and who had attempted to murder one of our former Presidents, was a mistake?

Ummm no the "mistake" was attacking Iraq because is was supposedly an "urgent threat" with those WMDs.