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Northam should be remembered for advocating the slaughtering of deformed babies

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Gov. Ralph Northam took it a step further by advocating for abortion after delivery.

"If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion," Northam said during a radio interview. Don’t worry — if we miss on the first try we'll certainly get them on the second, Dr. Mengele.

History will remember Northam as the disgraced Democrat who wore blackface, maybe a Ku Klux Klan robe, and nearly "moonwalked" at a news conference to explain why. I'll remember Northam for calmly calling for infanticide — exposing the darkest part of the American left's radical abortion agenda — before the universe delivered his much-deserved comeuppance.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...icide-worse-than-blackface-column/2776498002/

Let's hopefully establish that post-birth abortions, for any reason is a monstrosity. No baby should be killed because of deformities or for any reason for that matter. Abortion up to 40-week is completely ridiculous and outrageous. No reason or excuse justifies a post-birth abortion, period.

People want Northam to resign over a photo from over 30 years ago? He should resign for holding barbaric positions on human life.
 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...icide-worse-than-blackface-column/2776498002/

Let's hopefully establish that post-birth abortions, for any reason is a monstrosity. No baby should be killed because of deformities or for any reason for that matter. Abortion up to 40-week is completely ridiculous and outrageous. No reason or excuse justifies a post-birth abortion, period.

People want Northam to resign over a photo from over 30 years ago? He should resign for holding barbaric positions on human life.

It's all the Dems who want him to resign over a photo. They want everyone to forget the blunder the guy made by expressing his views on abortion.
 
An abortion clinic or infant cemetary named after him would be a wonderful gesture.
 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...icide-worse-than-blackface-column/2776498002/

Let's hopefully establish that post-birth abortions, for any reason is a monstrosity. No baby should be killed because of deformities or for any reason for that matter. Abortion up to 40-week is completely ridiculous and outrageous. No reason or excuse justifies a post-birth abortion, period.

People want Northam to resign over a photo from over 30 years ago? He should resign for holding barbaric positions on human life.

Speaking as a pro-choice conservative (up until the point of viability), I completely agree with you and the writer of the editorial, Bucky. Northam made a monstrous abortion-on-demand bill appear even more monstrous than before. This is an extremist position taking abortion from "safe, legal and rare" to posing that all fetal life from point of conception until birth is unworthy of protection, and possibly just as worthless even after birth. No person of good conscience should stand for it.
 
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An abortion clinic or infant cemetary named after him would be a wonderful gesture.

We, as Americans MUST make a statement that after 20 weeks, all forms of abortions will be banned and made illegal.
 
Yeah, that's not at all what he said or what this bill does. You're trying to pretend the parents can just have the baby then decide to toss it in the trash if they don't like the way it looks. You lie, exaggerate and hyperbolize because you can't argue the facts.
 
Yeah, that's not at all what he said or what this bill does. You're trying to pretend the parents can just have the baby then decide to toss it in the trash if they don't like the way it looks. You lie, exaggerate and hyperbolize because you can't argue the facts.

It is true and you know it.

This is a statement that kids with down syndrome and deformities do matter and deserve life.
 
Yeah, that's not at all what he said or what this bill does. You're trying to pretend the parents can just have the baby then decide to toss it in the trash if they don't like the way it looks. You lie, exaggerate and hyperbolize because you can't argue the facts.

Also, why do you think the head of Planned Parenthood is asking that Northam step down. What does Planned Parenthood have to do with Northam?

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/a...ood-calls-on-governor-ralph-northam-to-resign

As the nation's leading provider of reproductive health care, we have a responsibility to advocate for all patients, and to provide compassionate health care to all people who walk through our doors. There is no place for Gov. Ralph Northam’s racist actions or language. He must step down as Governor. The people of Virginia need to be able to trust that their leaders will fight for them, and support policies that protect their health, safety and value their communities. Gov. Northam’s actions have put that in doubt.

No mention by Leana Wen for the Govenor to step down because of his sadistic remarks about human life, but him to step down for "racist actions or language."

So Dr. Wen does not even know what Northam did that was racist, but doesn't even mention his remarks about killing babies?

Wow.
 
It is true and you know it.

This is a statement that kids with down syndrome and deformities do matter and deserve life.

Also, why do you think the head of Planned Parenthood is asking that Northam step down. What does Planned Parenthood have to do with Northam?

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/a...ood-calls-on-governor-ralph-northam-to-resign



No mention by Leana Wen for the Govenor to step down because of his sadistic remarks about human life, but him to step down for "racist actions or language."

So Dr. Wen does not even know what Northam did that was racist, but doesn't even mention his remarks about killing babies?

Wow.

Exactly. You're conflating two separate issues, one his statement on abortion, two his history of being adjacent to racists.

All of this is dishonest because your OP is a lie, nobody said post birth murder is OK and that's not what this law does, you think planned parenthood should be shut down so you quoting them is rich, and lastly you don't think any of the things Northam did was racist, only liberals do.
 
Exactly. You're conflating two separate issues, one his statement on abortion, two his history of being adjacent to racists.

All of this is dishonest because your OP is a lie, nobody said post birth murder is OK and that's not what this law does, you think planned parenthood should be shut down so you quoting them is rich, and lastly you don't think any of the things Northam did was racist, only liberals do.

You know buddy, every white person that wears blackface, isn't racist.

Is Robert Downey Jr racist? What about Julianne Hough?

Wearing blackface to dress up like Michael Jackson, the king of pop is not racist.

But you are distracting me from the more serious issue.

Whatever happened to keeping things, "safe, legal, and rare?"

We are talking about Democrats proposing legislation to provide abortion up to just seconds before birth. That is absolutely disgusting.
 
You know buddy, every white person that wears blackface, isn't racist.

Is Robert Downey Jr racist? What about Julianne Hough?

Wearing blackface to dress up like Michael Jackson, the king of pop is not racist.

But you are distracting me from the more serious issue.

Whatever happened to keeping things, "safe, legal, and rare?"

We are talking about Democrats proposing legislation to provide abortion up to just seconds before birth. That is absolutely disgusting.

The legislation only applies to cases where the child is terminally I'll and will die anyway, or in cases of severe danger for the mother. You exaggerate and lie because you have an agenda.

And thank you for admitting you don't see anything Northam did as racist, you just like calling him racist because you get to feel like a liberal for a few minutes. These two topics are unrelated.
 
There is no such thing as after birth abortion. Abortion is termination of pregnancy. Pregnancy is over at birth. Good grief.

Here is the relevant text of the NY bill:

SECTION 2599-AA. ABORTION.
§ 2599-AA. ABORTION. 1. A HEALTH CARE PRACTITIONER LICENSED, CERTI-
FIED, OR AUTHORIZED UNDER TITLE EIGHT OF THE EDUCATION LAW, ACTING WITH-
IN HIS OR HER LAWFUL SCOPE OF PRACTICE, MAY PERFORM AN ABORTION WHEN,
ACCORDING TO THE PRACTITIONER'S REASONABLE AND GOOD FAITH PROFESSIONAL
JUDGMENT BASED ON THE FACTS OF THE PATIENT'S CASE: THE PATIENT IS WITHIN
TWENTY-FOUR WEEKS FROM THE COMMENCEMENT OF PREGNANCY, OR THERE IS AN
ABSENCE OF FETAL VIABILITY, OR THE ABORTION IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE
PATIENT'S LIFE OR HEALTH.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2017/s2796

Rabid Alpaca is right. This does not make abortion for *any* reason in the third trimester legal.
 
There is no such thing as after birth abortion. Abortion is termination of pregnancy. Pregnancy is over at birth. Good grief.

Here is the relevant text of the NY bill:

SECTION 2599-AA. ABORTION.
§ 2599-AA. ABORTION. 1. A HEALTH CARE PRACTITIONER LICENSED, CERTI-
FIED, OR AUTHORIZED UNDER TITLE EIGHT OF THE EDUCATION LAW, ACTING WITH-
IN HIS OR HER LAWFUL SCOPE OF PRACTICE, MAY PERFORM AN ABORTION WHEN,
ACCORDING TO THE PRACTITIONER'S REASONABLE AND GOOD FAITH PROFESSIONAL
JUDGMENT BASED ON THE FACTS OF THE PATIENT'S CASE: THE PATIENT IS WITHIN
TWENTY-FOUR WEEKS FROM THE COMMENCEMENT OF PREGNANCY, OR THERE IS AN
ABSENCE OF FETAL VIABILITY, OR THE ABORTION IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE
PATIENT'S LIFE OR HEALTH.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2017/s2796

Rabid Alpaca is right. This does not make abortion for *any* reason in the third trimester legal.

Intellectual dishonesty seems to be their strong suit.
 
Intellectual dishonesty seems to be their strong suit.

It is a barbaric and vicious abortion agenda.

When a baby is delivered and outside the womb, you are damn right that baby has rights.
 
There is no such thing as after birth abortion. Abortion is termination of pregnancy. Pregnancy is over at birth. Good grief.

Here is the relevant text of the NY bill:

SECTION 2599-AA. ABORTION.
§ 2599-AA. ABORTION. 1. A HEALTH CARE PRACTITIONER LICENSED, CERTI-
FIED, OR AUTHORIZED UNDER TITLE EIGHT OF THE EDUCATION LAW, ACTING WITH-
IN HIS OR HER LAWFUL SCOPE OF PRACTICE, MAY PERFORM AN ABORTION WHEN,
ACCORDING TO THE PRACTITIONER'S REASONABLE AND GOOD FAITH PROFESSIONAL
JUDGMENT BASED ON THE FACTS OF THE PATIENT'S CASE: THE PATIENT IS WITHIN
TWENTY-FOUR WEEKS FROM THE COMMENCEMENT OF PREGNANCY, OR THERE IS AN
ABSENCE OF FETAL VIABILITY, OR THE ABORTION IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE
PATIENT'S LIFE OR HEALTH.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2017/s2796

Rabid Alpaca is right. This does not make abortion for *any* reason in the third trimester legal.

 
It is a barbaric and vicious abortion agenda.

When a baby is delivered and outside the womb, you are damn right that baby has rights.

And just like an adult with a catastrophic disease,the DPOA or next of kin can refuse aggressive medical care and opt for comfort measures only.
 
And just like an adult with a catastrophic disease,the DPOA or next of kin can refuse aggressive medical care and opt for comfort measures only.

That is absolutely sick.
 
That is absolutely sick.

What is?

Do you think every person on this earth needs to die at the end of a code blue or with tubes shoved in every orifice?

In many (if not most )instances, it is the doctor suggesting comfort measures only.
 
What is?

Do you think every person on this earth needs to die at the end of a code blue or with tubes shoved in every orifice?

In many (if not most )instances, it is the doctor suggesting comfort measures only.

I don't believe in killing humans because of deformities or because of down syndrome. Every human deserves a chance at life, period.
 
I don't believe in killing humans because of deformities or because of down syndrome. Every human deserves a chance at life, period.

Dude, a baby born with just Down Syndrome does not need heroic measures. Are you saying the baby would be euthanized?
 
Dude, a baby born with just Down Syndrome does not need heroic measures. Are you saying the baby would be euthanized?

That's where the Democrat party is headed. The alt-left and the intellectual brains of the party AOC are becoming the party of Infanticide, the party of Hamas, etc..

On Monday, Senator Patty Murray (Dem—WA) blocked the vote on a bill that would protect babies who survive an abortion attempt from being killed.

“That Senate Democrats would block a bill to protect a baby who survives an abortion speaks volumes,” said Senator Marco Rubio. “Supporting a newborn’s right to life should not be a partisan issue.”

“Unfortunately, Senate Democrats, like their colleagues in Virginia and New York, seem to have no issue publicly supporting legal infanticide,” Rubio added. “It is clear that, on the issue of life, extremism has become mainstream in the Democratic Party.”
 
That's where the Democrat party is headed. The alt-left and the intellectual brains of the party AOC are becoming the party of Infanticide, the party of Hamas, etc..

Back to lying again.
 
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