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North Korea says it is holding American tourist for unspecified violations


I disgressed with the term "socialism" not "totalitarianism"
 

I realize all of this. Lets just say I have a fetish for DPRK documentaries.
 
You still could not be missing the point harder. Not going to waste my time attempting to explain it again.


Why would you man..... Did you study communism or totalitarian regimes such as Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jong-il, Kim Il-sung etc?

Why would you want to argue with me when your idea socialist utopia is a commune cult? instead of a nation or state that has been enslaved for the elite?

I understand your fascination and desire for socialism - but I don't believe you can see beyond that and how it can murder hundreds of millions and destroy countries, beyond just wanted to be free and feed themselves.

That is the fundamental problem with socialism on a national scale.

To you it's free sex and free food - to others its murder, totalitarianism and lack of food.
 

Apparently you don't, since I'm no socialist. But by all means, please continue building your strawmen to attack.
 

Nobody said it wasn't a totalitarian state.
 
I realize all of this. Lets just say I have a fetish for DPRK documentaries.

So how the hell can you be a "liberal" considering this is what "liberals" want.

It's one thing to be a concerned citizen, but it's another to support a political party that wants to control every aspect of the United States.
 
Nobody said it wasn't a totalitarian state.

Um yeah, someone/poster actually claimed it wasn't a totalitarian state - then went further on and insisted I had no idea what a totalitarian state was.
 
Apparently you don't, since I'm no socialist. But by all means, please continue building your strawmen to attack.

Yeah that's what most socialists claim..

What economic model do you adhere to then?
 
Um yeah, someone/poster actually claimed it wasn't a totalitarian state - then went further on and insisted I had no idea what a totalitarian state was.

No, he said it was not a totalitarian socialist state. Emphasis on the socialist. He clarified upthread.
 

Aah, hasn't the ickle little dictator moron's buddy been over to visit him for a while? Does the little Kimmie need his weird hair colored, pierced weirdo to tuck him in?

Yo Dennis, your boy needs you to hold his little hand.
 
Generally speaking, Keynesian, although I'm the first to admit it's not perfect.

Did you know in one of Keynes most popular books he made many errors on the history of economics? I never much enjoyed the book, but I always got a laugh out of his several historical errors.
 
Did you know in one of Keynes most popular books he made many errors on the history of economics? I never much enjoyed the book, but I always got a laugh out of his several historical errors.

That's nice. I'm sure Milton Friedman once farted too loud in church.

The theory is the most important thing, not the fact that Keynes wasn't a great researcher.
 
That's nice. I'm sure Milton Friedman once farted too loud in church.

The theory is the most important thing, not the fact that Keynes wasn't a great researcher.

He was setting out in part to correct errors from past thinkers, but his research was so poor he got the history wrong. :lamo
 
He was setting out in part to correct errors from past thinkers, but his research was so poor he got the history wrong. :lamo

Which clearly invalidates all of his theories and concepts.

I'm not particularly interested in getting into a debate on economic schools (for starters, it's wildly off topic).
 
"Ah, he says he's not a socialist. SOUNDS JUST LIKE SOMETHING A SOCIALIST WOULD SAY."



Generally speaking, Keynesian, although I'm the first to admit it's not perfect.

You mean the same Keynesian economics that are about to destroy Europe and the Euro?
 
Which clearly invalidates all of his theories and concepts.

No, but it is funny.

The book The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money is a good example of his stupidity. It is a book filled with fallacies, inconsistencies, vaguenesses and plain errors of fact. I'm sorry, but Keynes was an idiot.
 
No, but it is funny.

The book The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money is a good example of his stupidity. It is a book filled with fallacies, inconsistencies, vaguenesses and plain errors of fact. I'm sorry, but Keynes was an idiot.


Seems my fallacies come to fruition really quickly.

Keynes was the epic idiot who only realized his ideas applied to local communities and could debt large communities with epic debt -yet no one cared.

Keynes entire emphasis was on communal banking - not national banking... Yet people today love the guy for his communal banking philosophy which which keeps cities going.
 
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So how the hell can you be a "liberal" considering this is what "liberals" want.
Are you kidding me?


It's one thing to be a concerned citizen, but it's another to support a political party that wants to control every aspect of the United States.
Again. Are you kidding me?
 
He brought this to himself. North Korea is not a fun place to visit. Only extremely bored people want to travel there.
 
Its not a ban but a warning. So yes, I will still go. I have a buddy working in Kenya, since he works in Kenya should the US not help him if something bad happens to him? Hell there is a warning in Mexico as well...
why do you crave for being there?NK is Kim's barracks ,wherein people are all soldiers preparing to fight against any foreigners.
 
why do you crave for being there?NK is Kim's barracks ,wherein people are all soldiers preparing to fight against any foreigners.

Because i find the state extremely interesting, from the country landscape itself to the political ideology.
 

I hate North Korea as much as well... anyone. But holy hell why would you think it was a good idea to bring a bible on your tour?
 
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