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Dont have a link yet. Just happened. North Korea has defied the UN and conducted its first ever nuclear test.
danarhea said:Dont have a link yet. Just happened. North Korea has defied the UN and conducted its first ever nuclear test.
Report: NK may have performed nuclear test
SEOUL, South Korea (AP)-- South Korean government officials said North Korea performed its first nuclear weapons test Monday, the South's Yonhap news agency reported
North Korea's official KCNA news agency reported the country has performed a successful nuclear test.
South Korean officials could not immediately confirm the Yonhap report.
South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun convened an urgent meeting of security advisers over the issue, Yonhap reported.
The North said last week it would conduct a nuclear test as part of its deterrent against a possible U.S. invasion.
Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/10/08/korea.nuclear.test.ap/index.html
Trajan Octavian Titus said:Oh sh!t those ****ing idiots they did it warning after warning and they went ahead and did it anyways, I'm calling for a preemptive first strike this Kim Jon Il can not be allowed to possess a nuclear weapon to hold the world hostage.
unfortunately its too late for that... they already have the nuke...Trajan Octavian Titus said:Oh sh!t those ****ing idiots they did it warning after warning and they went ahead and did it anyways, I'm calling for a preemptive first strike this Kim Jon Il can not be allowed to possess a nuclear weapon to hold the world hostage.
danarhea said:Looks like we agree on something finally. NK has the capabilty to hit Hawaii, so this may turn out to be nasty. My suggestion is to glass over North Korea before they have a chance to get their birds aloft.
gynks2001 said:unfortunately its too late for that... they already have the nuke...
plus, at this point I think its better not to even give the bastard the time of day for a preemptive strike.
He's a power hungry dictator, he knows how fast his country will be sunk if he deploys one of those nukes...
Now its time to plot against Iran before THEY develop the weapon.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:This is simply an unacceptable situation, Kim Jun Il is simply to unpredictable to be allowed to have his finger on the button.
One problem, youre forgetting about SKorea...Trajan Octavian Titus said:You don't get it I meant a preemptive nuclear first strike a nuclear Kim Jun Il is simply to dangerous to be allowed. A nuclear first strike would have the duel benefit of destroying the North Korean threat, as well as, proving to Iran that we're not ****ing around about this.
gynks2001 said:One problem, youre forgetting about SKorea...
a nuke is a nuke.Trajan Octavian Titus said:We have a tactical nuclear capability.
gynks2001 said:a nuke is a nuke.
Nkorea and Skorea are way to close to attempt something like that.
i must say I agree... once a country like NK gets nukes, its too late to preempt... the chances that theyll launch one are so low its not worth the fallout of a nuclear attack, resulting in a nuclear war and the official end of the Cold War.jujuman13 said:Devastating as this news is, Danarhea, TOT step back and think about it rationally.
This Nuclear device was 10' in length, weighed 4 tonnes.
If you are able to think rationally, try this for size, how can they hope to mount this onto an ICBM.
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(1) We hit their silos. Possible.
2) If they have any nukes left, they will launch. Lets hope not. What will they attatch it to?
3) They will begin shelling Seoul with their long range artillery, while attacking the border at the same time, so that means getting reinforcements to the area ASAP. Possible.
4) NK will probably make some gains from an incursion into the south, but they can be held off. Possible, but what will China do? Do you want a war with China?
5) Possible - A nuke about 100 miles north of the border to disrupt any possible attempt to organize invading the South. Possible. But what will China do? are we prepared for a war with China?
6) A second round of nuclear strikes by us should put the lid on the situation completely, and bring about their surrender. Possible. But what will China do? Do we want a nuclear war with China?. And even if they did surrender (doubtful) who would they surrender to? US, China, UN, Russia?
NK loves to posture on the world scene, what they really want is 1 on 1 talks with US, this should not be allowed, talks with and as part of 6 nation talks are only way out of this mess.
Be interesting to see the rest of you warmongers coming down on me like a ton of bricks.
Nuclear war is not the same as Terrorist actions or even conventional war, if a worldwide nuclear war is set into being, then ALL and yes I do mean ALL humanity will have to put up with the fallout from that war.
Do not imagine that if the US did decide to make a unilateral attack (Nuclear) on NK that this would be ignored by China / Russia and indeed any other country currently owning and able to deploy Nuclear weapons.
Let us hope and pray that calmer minds are employed in deciding whatever reaction the US gives.
jujuman13 said:Devastating as this news is, Danarhea, TOT step back and think about it rationally.
This Nuclear device was 10' in length, weighed 4 tonnes.
If you are able to think rationally, try this for size, how can they hope to mount this onto an ICBM.
Be interesting to see the rest of you warmongers coming down on me like a ton of bricks.
Nuclear war is not the same as Terrorist actions or even conventional war, if a worldwide nuclear war is set into being, then ALL and yes I do mean ALL humanity will have to put up with the fallout from that war.
Do not imagine that if the US did decide to make a unilateral attack (Nuclear) on NK that this would be ignored by China / Russia and indeed any other country currently owning and able to deploy Nuclear weapons.
Let us hope and pray that calmer minds are employed in deciding whatever reaction the US gives.
You ever try working with radiation? Containment of a nuclear explosion is not a matter of "if we do it correctly". What you are saying is "So long Korea, and so long to western Japan".Trajan Octavian Titus said:No it's not if we do it correctly.
jfuh said:You ever try working with radiation? Containment of a nuclear explosion is not a matter of "if we do it correctly". What you are saying is "So long Korea, and so long to western Japan".
Like I said, ever work with radiation? Yield has very little to do with how you contain radiation. It doesn't just "disappear" with low yields.danarhea said:Wrong. Tactical nukes have a yield of less than one kiloton.
jfuh said:Like I said, ever work with radiation? Yield has very little to do with how you contain radiation. It doesn't just "disappear" with low yields.