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North Carolina investigating Trump aide Mark Meadows over voter fraud allegations

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Cons scream voter fraud but anytime there's any found, it seems it a republican. This one just happens to be right out of the previous white house administration.

  • North Carolina authorities have opened an investigation into possible voter fraud by Mark Meadows when he was serving as White House chief of staff to then-President Donald Trump.
  • Meadows claimed in 2020 that his legal residence was a mobile home, which The New Yorker magazine says he never owned or apparently ever stayed at.
  • “The allegations in this case involve potential crimes committed by a government official,” wrote Macon County DA Ashley Hornsby Welch in a letter to the state attorney general’s office.
  • Trump, who lost his bid for re-election to President Joe Biden, has falsely claimed since that he was swindled out of a second term in the White House by widespread ballot fraud in several swing states.
 
Hm....I'll be watching the outcome of that one.
 
A house with a rusted roof in the woods with a pickup truck parked in front of it.
 
Cons scream voter fraud but anytime there's any found, it seems it a republican. This one just happens to be right out of the previous white house administration.

  • North Carolina authorities have opened an investigation into possible voter fraud by Mark Meadows when he was serving as White House chief of staff to then-President Donald Trump.
  • Meadows claimed in 2020 that his legal residence was a mobile home, which The New Yorker magazine says he never owned or apparently ever stayed at.
  • “The allegations in this case involve potential crimes committed by a government official,” wrote Macon County DA Ashley Hornsby Welch in a letter to the state attorney general’s office.
  • Trump, who lost his bid for re-election to President Joe Biden, has falsely claimed since that he was swindled out of a second term in the White House by widespread ballot fraud in several swing states.
Voter fraud is minor and never affects the actual results of an election.

Election fraud, on the other hand, is MAJOR and totally affected the results of the 2020 election.

But hey...you can harp about voter fraud, while you go ahead and bury your head in the sand when it comes to looking at election fraud. That's the Trump hater style.
 
Voter fraud is minor and never affects the actual results of an election.

Election fraud, on the other hand, is MAJOR and totally affected the results of the 2020 election.

But hey...you can harp about voter fraud, while you go ahead and bury your head in the sand when it comes to looking at election fraud. That's the Trump hater style.
Can you elaborate on the differences between voter fraud and election fraud please? Specifics.
 
Voter fraud is minor and never affects the actual results of an election.

Election fraud, on the other hand, is MAJOR and totally affected the results of the 2020 election.

But hey...you can harp about voter fraud, while you go ahead and bury your head in the sand when it comes to looking at election fraud. That's the Trump hater style.
It's always been republicans who've minimized election fraud to front page their dire concerns of voter fraud. But you go bury your head in the sand when it comes to your hypocrisy.
 
Voter fraud is minor and never affects the actual results of an election.

Election fraud, on the other hand, is MAJOR and totally affected the results of the 2020 election.

But hey...you can harp about voter fraud, while you go ahead and bury your head in the sand when it comes to looking at election fraud. That's the Trump hater style.
None of that is relevant. If Meadows voted in a location that he didn’t live in, he committed a crime — the same crime his boss said cost him the election. I believe the quote was, “millions of illegal votes cost me the election.”
 
Cons scream voter fraud but anytime there's any found, it seems it a republican. This one just happens to be right out of the previous white house administration.

  • North Carolina authorities have opened an investigation into possible voter fraud by Mark Meadows when he was serving as White House chief of staff to then-President Donald Trump.
  • Meadows claimed in 2020 that his legal residence was a mobile home, which The New Yorker magazine says he never owned or apparently ever stayed at.
  • “The allegations in this case involve potential crimes committed by a government official,” wrote Macon County DA Ashley Hornsby Welch in a letter to the state attorney general’s office.
  • Trump, who lost his bid for re-election to President Joe Biden, has falsely claimed since that he was swindled out of a second term in the White House by widespread ballot fraud in several swing states.
Why would he vote in No Carolina if he lived in Virginia? Or if they hadn't moved there yet, he had to live somewhere. He was working for Trump. DC?

This makes no sense.
 
Can you elaborate on the differences between voter fraud and election fraud please? Specifics.
I'm feeling generous so I'll go ahead and educate you and the rest of the forum.

What Is Voter Fraud?

One way to think of voter fraud is unlawful voting by an individual. Every state defines voter fraud (sometimes called unlawful or illegal voting) differently. But, generally speaking, a person commits the crime of voter fraud by doing any of the following acts, intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly:
  • votes more than once in the same election (double voting)
  • casts a ballot in the name of an ineligible voter (such as a deceased voter or a voter who moved out of the election district)
  • registers to vote using a fraudulent name or address
  • votes with a fraudulent ballot, or
  • votes despite being ineligible to vote (such as a nonresident, noncitizen, or disqualified voter).
What Is Election Fraud?

We will discuss election fraud in terms of fraud involving the election process. Election fraud can involve unlawful acts by election officials or acts done by others that threaten the integrity (reliability and trustworthiness) of the election process.

Unlawful Acts by Election Officials​

Election officials, whether at the local or state level, carry the heavy responsibility of ensuring elections are run fairly and accurately. The laws covering election administration reflect this responsibility—covering everything from how a candidate gets on the ballot to duties of poll workers, counting of ballots, and operating voting machines. Here are just some of the election fraud crimes covered in state laws.

It's unlawful for an election official to knowingly or intentionally:
  • receive ineligible votes
  • reject votes of qualified voters
  • alter or tamper with ballots or election documents
  • falsify election returns or falsely report votes, or
  • tamper with, damage, or destroy ballot boxes or voting equipment.

If you have any questions about this, there is more information at that website.
 
Voter fraud is minor and never affects the actual results of an election.

Election fraud, on the other hand, is MAJOR and totally affected the results of the 2020 election.

But hey...you can harp about voter fraud, while you go ahead and bury your head in the sand when it comes to looking at election fraud. That's the Trump hater style.
Nobody cares dude.
 
I'm feeling generous so I'll go ahead and educate you and the rest of the forum.

What Is Voter Fraud?​
One way to think of voter fraud is unlawful voting by an individual. Every state defines voter fraud (sometimes called unlawful or illegal voting) differently. But, generally speaking, a person commits the crime of voter fraud by doing any of the following acts, intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly:​
  • votes more than once in the same election (double voting)
  • casts a ballot in the name of an ineligible voter (such as a deceased voter or a voter who moved out of the election district)
  • registers to vote using a fraudulent name or address
  • votes with a fraudulent ballot, or
  • votes despite being ineligible to vote (such as a nonresident, noncitizen, or disqualified voter).
What Is Election Fraud?​
We will discuss election fraud in terms of fraud involving the election process. Election fraud can involve unlawful acts by election officials or acts done by others that threaten the integrity (reliability and trustworthiness) of the election process.​

Unlawful Acts by Election Officials​


Election officials, whether at the local or state level, carry the heavy responsibility of ensuring elections are run fairly and accurately. The laws covering election administration reflect this responsibility—covering everything from how a candidate gets on the ballot to duties of poll workers, counting of ballots, and operating voting machines. Here are just some of the election fraud crimes covered in state laws.​
It's unlawful for an election official to knowingly or intentionally:​
  • receive ineligible votes
  • reject votes of qualified voters
  • alter or tamper with ballots or election documents
  • falsify election returns or falsely report votes, or
  • tamper with, damage, or destroy ballot boxes or voting equipment.

If you have any questions about this, there is more information at that website.
Thank you for your comprehensive response.

You have reinforced my opinion that voter Id is not necessary.

Even you admit "voter fraud" is minimal and I can't see how voter ID would prevent "election fraud" in any of your examples.
 
Cons scream voter fraud but anytime there's any found, it seems it a republican. This one just happens to be right out of the previous white house administration.

  • North Carolina authorities have opened an investigation into possible voter fraud by Mark Meadows when he was serving as White House chief of staff to then-President Donald Trump.
  • Meadows claimed in 2020 that his legal residence was a mobile home, which The New Yorker magazine says he never owned or apparently ever stayed at.
  • “The allegations in this case involve potential crimes committed by a government official,” wrote Macon County DA Ashley Hornsby Welch in a letter to the state attorney general’s office.
  • Trump, who lost his bid for re-election to President Joe Biden, has falsely claimed since that he was swindled out of a second term in the White House by widespread ballot fraud in several swing states.

Lock him up!
 
I'm feeling generous so I'll go ahead and educate you and the rest of the forum.

What Is Voter Fraud?​
One way to think of voter fraud is unlawful voting by an individual. Every state defines voter fraud (sometimes called unlawful or illegal voting) differently. But, generally speaking, a person commits the crime of voter fraud by doing any of the following acts, intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly:​
  • votes more than once in the same election (double voting)
  • casts a ballot in the name of an ineligible voter (such as a deceased voter or a voter who moved out of the election district)
  • registers to vote using a fraudulent name or address
  • votes with a fraudulent ballot, or
  • votes despite being ineligible to vote (such as a nonresident, noncitizen, or disqualified voter).
What Is Election Fraud?​
We will discuss election fraud in terms of fraud involving the election process. Election fraud can involve unlawful acts by election officials or acts done by others that threaten the integrity (reliability and trustworthiness) of the election process.​

Unlawful Acts by Election Officials​


Election officials, whether at the local or state level, carry the heavy responsibility of ensuring elections are run fairly and accurately. The laws covering election administration reflect this responsibility—covering everything from how a candidate gets on the ballot to duties of poll workers, counting of ballots, and operating voting machines. Here are just some of the election fraud crimes covered in state laws.​
It's unlawful for an election official to knowingly or intentionally:​
  • receive ineligible votes
  • reject votes of qualified voters
  • alter or tamper with ballots or election documents
  • falsify election returns or falsely report votes, or
  • tamper with, damage, or destroy ballot boxes or voting equipment.

If you have any questions about this, there is more information at that website.
Lol....
 
Thank you for your comprehensive response.

You have reinforced my opinion that voter Id is not necessary.

Even you admit "voter fraud" is minimal and I can't see how voter ID would prevent "election fraud" in any of your examples.
it would appear to be this one:
  • receive ineligible votes
 
Thank you for your comprehensive response.

You have reinforced my opinion that voter Id is not necessary.

Even you admit "voter fraud" is minimal and I can't see how voter ID would prevent "election fraud" in any of your examples.
Without voter ID to verify that ballots come from legal voters, anyone can create millions of invalid ballots and there would be no way to prove they are invalid.

(This is one of the ways election fraud was committed during the 2020 election.)
 
it would appear to be this one:
I fail to see the logic in thinking that voter Id will stop poll workers willing to accept illegible votes.

If they are willing to accept illegible votes they are certainly willing to accept illegible IDs or no IDs at all.
 
Whatever takes the focus off the disastrous addled sock puppet currently in the oval office 😂
 
Without voter ID to verify that ballots come from legal voters, anyone can create millions of invalid ballots and there would be no way to prove they are invalid.

So now your saying voter fraud and election fraud are the same.

Can you explain how someone could simply create millions of ballots under the current system and pass them off as legitimate ballots just because their is no voter Id?

(This is one of the ways election fraud was committed during the 2020 election.)
Of which you have no proof but let's not completely derail the thread.

If you really want to engage in that nonsense feel free to link me to one of the other 500 other threads that already covers that topic and we can discuss it.
 
Okay, I found an article in the New Yorker. Meadows was considering running for office in No. Carolina and so wanted to keep an NC address.
 
So now your saying voter fraud and election fraud are the same.
No. I'm not.

Can you explain how someone could simply create millions of ballots under the current system and pass them off as legitimate ballots just because their is no voter Id?
It's easy to create fake ballots. Just print them, fill them out and give them to the vote counters.

With no ID, the counters have to count the fake ballots.

~snipped the personal attack~
 
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