really! that's all you've got?
someone shows up at the polls and says they are 'john doe' who lives at '1111 main street, whatever city', and that constitutes verification that they are actually john doe.
This John Doe would have to know the polling place assigned to that voter and know that voter did not plan on voting and be able to reasonably sign that person's name...and if they get caught the punishment is sever...and it would have to happen on a large scale.
Yeah. That is all I got. It seems enough time me.
have you even thought this through? the election has not yet happened and the poll workers are supposed to know, and have listed, everyone who was not going to vote in the prospective election?
The poll workers don't need to know but if someone votes in my name at my designated polling station then as soon as I vote their will be a duplicate effort flagged and investigated.
rather than go into a rant about why that is such a stupid, STUPID approach, why don't you explain the process for us instead. because i truly want to hear your technique for identifying EVERYONE who is not going to vote. hell, we could then apply your magical process to identify everyone who is not going to have an abortion. there are so many potential applications for your magical process; please share it with us
I agree it would be magic to know everyone who was not going to vote. That is why the current system is so effective.
Thank you for not ranting.
tell us why it is "implausible" to document voter eligibility on a national scale
You already stated it. Nobody knows who is going to vote or not.
You seem to agree with me but are arguing anyhow.
you do know that there are secure methods already commonly available to assure that access is limited to those who have been vetted and then doscumented to be eligible for access. why could we not apply those current processes to limit access to only those who are eligible to vote? why is voting such a difficult circumstance to document eligibility?
Yeah. That system takes place when people register to vote and have to document their eligibility.
That isn't difficult and works well.
If you mean voter id...
1. Why should I be compelled by the fed to get yet another ID to stop a problem they can't prove exists? This to me is government overreach.
2. As I have stated, even if voter IDs were mandated, Trump or someone like him would simply say the IDs were faked. Probably claim China dropped off boxes of fake voter IDs at Soros house or whatever nonesense sites like zero hedge want to make up.
fraud has been exposed
not on a huge scale ... at least not one of which we are presently aware
Of course limited fraud occurs. 200 million or so voters voting in states with multiple different rules conducted by humans who can error. It has been like this for decades.
tell me how many illegal abortions have been performed in texas since it restricted access to abortions?
do you believe there have been no such illegal abortions?
or is it that there is now no way to know the number?
same thing is true for voting without controls to assure only eligibles get to cast a ballot. you now do not know what you do not know
Again. At this point I believe no controls exist that would not be undermined by failed loser 1 term presidents who can't admit they lost.
Do you really think if Trump ran and lost again in 2024 that if Trump claimed fake voter IDs were used that people would just dismiss him and sites like zero hedge would deny the possibility?
Lol, nope. The same people that claim voter fraud now would run with Trump's claim without a second thought.
That is the damage Trump's rhetoric has caused.
while that is true, such propaganda could not be possible unless our voting system had such weaknesses that some of the allegations cannot be ruled out
how many dead people voted in the 2020 election?
Again, these weaknesses can never be stopped 100 percent so claims of voter fraud will now always be a spector in every election.
how many ineligible votes were cast by mail in voters who would not have been actually legal voters if their identities were vetted?
how many mail in voters had their ballots picked up and filled out by persons who offered to take it to the polls for them ... sometimes with an offer of cash for that blank mail-in ballot?
Very very few but these bad actors are being caught.
