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Nominating Trump, Republicans Rewrite His Record

MTAtech

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[h=1]Nominating Trump, Republicans Rewrite His Record[/h]
Hours after Republican delegates formally nominated Mr. Trump for a second term, the president and his party made plain that they intended to engage in sweeping revisionism about Mr. Trump’s management of the coronavirus pandemic, his record on race relations and much else. And they laid out a dystopian picture of what the United States would look like under a Biden administration, warning of a “vengeful mob” that would lay waste to suburban communities and turn quiet neighborhoods into war zones.

At times, the speakers and prerecorded videos appeared to be describing an alternate reality: one in which the nation was not nearing 180,000 deaths from the coronavirus; in which Mr. Trump had not consistently ignored serious warnings about the disease; in which the president had not spent much of his term appealing openly to xenophobia and racial animus; and in which someone other than Mr. Trump had presided over an economy that began crumbling in the spring.
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The Republicans’ message veered wildly, sometimes between consecutive speakers. State Representative Vernon Jones of Georgia, a Democrat who has endorsed Mr. Trump, trumpeted the president’s support for police reform, for instance, while other Black speakers appealed directly to minority voters. Minutes later, a St. Louis couple, Mark and Patricia McCloskey, who recently drew wide attention in the news media for brandishing firearms at peaceful Black protesters in their neighborhood, turned to barely veiled racial rhetoric.
“Your family will not be safe in the radical Democrats’ America,” said Ms. McCloskey, sitting with her husband in their home, warning that Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, wanted to “abolish the suburbs.”



Trump has no record to run on and America isn't better than it was four years ago. All the Republicans have to sell is fear -- just like Hitler's Nazi Party sold fear of Jews to a gullible Germany.
 
Revisionist History is a go to for the Trump Republicans.
 
The interesting part was the repeated idea of an apocalypse coming to the US if Biden wins. I don't recall that ever happening with either party at the helm of the executive branch. I wasn't surprised to hear the "doom and gloom" some conservatives complain about when it's coming in the other direction. The COVID 19 spin was pretty fascinating given Trump's repeated downplaying of the virus. On another note, laying out an agenda for the next term was a good idea; the hyperbolic stuff not so much.
 
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At times, the speakers and prerecorded videos appeared to be describing an alternate reality:

The fact checkers were exhausted. The lies just kept coming and coming and coming.

This is probably the most outrageous one:
TRUMP: “We protected your preexisting conditions. Very strongly protected preexisting ... and you don’t hear that.”

Trump. And the Republicans. Protected Americans preexisting conditions!!! OMG. Shameless, brazen, lying.
 
[h=1]Nominating Trump, Republicans Rewrite His Record[/h]
Hours after Republican delegates formally nominated Mr. Trump for a second term, the president and his party made plain that they intended to engage in sweeping revisionism about Mr. Trump’s management of the coronavirus pandemic, his record on race relations and much else. And they laid out a dystopian picture of what the United States would look like under a Biden administration, warning of a “vengeful mob” that would lay waste to suburban communities and turn quiet neighborhoods into war zones.

At times, the speakers and prerecorded videos appeared to be describing an alternate reality: one in which the nation was not nearing 180,000 deaths from the coronavirus; in which Mr. Trump had not consistently ignored serious warnings about the disease; in which the president had not spent much of his term appealing openly to xenophobia and racial animus; and in which someone other than Mr. Trump had presided over an economy that began crumbling in the spring.
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The Republicans’ message veered wildly, sometimes between consecutive speakers. State Representative Vernon Jones of Georgia, a Democrat who has endorsed Mr. Trump, trumpeted the president’s support for police reform, for instance, while other Black speakers appealed directly to minority voters. Minutes later, a St. Louis couple, Mark and Patricia McCloskey, who recently drew wide attention in the news media for brandishing firearms at peaceful Black protesters in their neighborhood, turned to barely veiled racial rhetoric.
“Your family will not be safe in the radical Democrats’ America,” said Ms. McCloskey, sitting with her husband in their home, warning that Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, wanted to “abolish the suburbs.”



Trump has no record to run on and America isn't better than it was four years ago. All the Republicans have to sell is fear -- just like Hitler's Nazi Party sold fear of Jews to a gullible Germany.

The alternate reality is you thinking his record has been rewritten or misrepresented....what we are hearing is the REAL reality that the leftist kook media doesn't want tell anyone.
 
Fact Checker: A medley of misleading economic claims from Donald Trump Jr.

“The failed Obama-Biden administration never could do and build the greatest economy our country has ever seen.”

“Job gains are outpacing what the so-called experts expected.”

“Democrats claim to be for workers, but they’ve spent the entire pandemic trying to sneak a tax break for millionaires in Democrat states into the covid relief bill. Then they attacked my father for suspending the payroll tax for middle-class workers.”

Biden “supported the worst trade deals in the history of the planet. He voted for the NAFTA Nightmare. Down the tubes went our auto industry. He pushed TPP. Goodbye, manufacturing jobs.”​

Well, what should we expect? I mean, consider who his father is. :lol:
 
The fact checkers were exhausted. The lies just kept coming and coming and coming.

This is probably the most outrageous one:
TRUMP: “We protected your preexisting conditions. Very strongly protected preexisting ... and you don’t hear that.”

Trump. And the Republicans. Protected Americans preexisting conditions!!! OMG. Shameless, brazen, lying.

Yeah, that one was egregious.
 
The alternate reality is you thinking his record has been rewritten or misrepresented....what we are hearing is the REAL reality that the leftist kook media doesn't want tell anyone.

So you believe that Republicans protected Americans from preexisting conditions?
 
The alternate reality is you thinking his record has been rewritten or misrepresented....what we are hearing is the REAL reality that the leftist kook media doesn't want tell anyone.

And we didn't see Trump say the things he said on video?
 
So you believe that Republicans protected Americans from preexisting conditions?

I don't believe its the governments job to be looking after anyone's preexisting conditions although Trump has said he thinks that requiring insurance companies to except patients with preexisting conditions is the right thing to do.
 
Revisionist History is a go to for the Trump Republicans.

Not just history, they try revise the present and their claims of the future. Basically it is reality they wish to revise.
 
I don't believe its the governments job to be looking after anyone's preexisting conditions although Trump has said he thinks that requiring insurance companies to except patients with preexisting conditions is the right thing to do.

What he says and what he's been doing are radically different.
 
The alternate reality is you thinking his record has been rewritten or misrepresented....what we are hearing is the REAL reality that the leftist kook media doesn't want tell anyone.
Keep believing you're not being conned, like a Trump university student. Did you know that it wasn't that Trump was conning these students put the fault was the media and the prosecutors doing something about it? Yeah, yeah, that's it.
 
Keep believing you're not being conned, like a Trump university student. Did you know that it wasn't that Trump was conning these students put the fault was the media and the prosecutors doing something about it? Yeah, yeah, that's it.

So what does this have to do with his record as president?? A big fat nothing!

His accomplishments as president have been extraordinary and are plain to see.
 
Trump's police reform: "Get rough with "them". Like he's not a criminal.
 
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I don't believe its the governments job to be looking after anyone's preexisting conditions although Trump has said he thinks that requiring insurance companies to except patients with preexisting conditions is the right thing to do.
Then you are one of the marks that Trump is betting will believe him.

Here's an article. Note what I marked in red:

President Donald Trump on Monday acknowledged a prospective executive order he's considering to make insurers cover pre-existing conditions amounted to political messaging — and that Obamacare already offered such protections.
"It's a signal to people ... it's a second platform," Trump said at a White House briefing. "Pre-existing conditions will be taken care of 100 percent by Republicans and the Republican party. I actually think it's a very important statement."

Trump had teased the executive order Friday night at his private club in Bedminster, N.J., while unveiling other executive actions to address the coronavirus crisis and economic crash.

Background: Trump and Republicans are vulnerable on the issue of pre-existing conditions after waging a lengthy legal battle to strike down Obamacare and its consumer protections without offering a replacement.
Trump's administration has also increased the availability of cheap, skimpier health plans that don't meet Obamacare's coverage requirements and wouldn't protect some patients with chronic conditions.
In other words, his EO doesn't do anything that Obamacare already guarantees and is just parroting what the law already does. If Obamacare didn't exist, this EO would not hold any weight. A president can't mandate something without an underlying law governing it.

Then:

Reminder: Trump and Barr are in court *right now* trying to have the ACA declared unconstitutional, which would strip Americans of preexisting condition coverage.
 
So what does this have to do with his record as president?? A big fat nothing!

His accomplishments as president have been extraordinary and are plain to see.

Trump claimed that he restored a failing economy. He's on record as boasting that he'll give us 4, 5 and 6% GDP growth. Well, let's look at his accomplishments on the economy and compare them to Obama's. They are essentially the same and certainly not the 4, 5 and 6% promised.

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Obama had far stronger job gains.

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On healthcare, Trump promised a plan that was far better than Obamacare. The only thing he did was go to court to have Obamacare declared unconstitutional.

On Covid, he denied it was a problem until deaths were so high it was undeniable. Then, he urged to open the economy long before doctors said it was safe. Now, we have the worst results of any country. Care for an injection of Clorox?

He promised he'd build a wall and Mexico would pay for it. Where is it?

I have no idea why people who have been conned continue to stand behind the conman.
 
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I don't believe its the governments job to be looking after anyone's preexisting conditions although Trump has said he thinks that requiring insurance companies to except patients with preexisting conditions is the right thing to do.

If Trump said that, why was he cheerleading ending the Affordable Care Act, which is the law that requires insurance companies to insure everyone?
 
@MTAtech............Trump did restore a failing economy.

Barack and Joe gave us about the weakest economy and recovery ever....the economy pretty much exploded under Trump's policies
 
Trump claimed that he restored a failing economy.

Hard to find a bigger lie than that. In fact, it was Obama who restored a failing economy. Trump parachuted onto the back of the surging Obama economy and claimed credit for it.

Now it's largely wrecked due to Trump's negligence with the virus.

So basically he's claiming credit for Obama's success while ignoring his own tragic failure.
 
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