'Nobody wants to work anymore':

[rickc]

Interested in what everyone thinks

Why are so many jobs going unfilled

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

All three PLUS others, so what about making the polls choices multiple choices?

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

People are getting tired of working more for less than other developed nations.
Many are still buying it, their awesome FrEeDuMbZ$™, and many are becoming very disillusioned.

Now that I'm suckling the Gubmint teet with a 100% free BidenCare™ healthcare plan, I may never work again.

 

[Gatsby]

IMO it's a combination of several things:
1) The bonus money that people collect for unemployment insurance probably depresses employment a little bit. It ends in September, so this is just a short-term problem.
2) We aren't accustomed to such a rapid economic recovery. Employers are trying to fill jobs so fast that the market doesn't have time to adjust.
3) We have a lot of older people retiring from the work force, and not enough younger people to replace them. This is partly because American birth rates have cratered, and partly because our net immigration rate is the lowest it has been in quite some time.

 

[CaughtInThe]

How many Americans are currently working?

 

[Tender Branson]

I'm 34 and have a full-time job and used to work since the age of 14 and was hardly ever unemployed yet.

Yet, I see many young people here who are a bit lazy and rather like to "chill" than work, but the work ethic is still pretty good here in Austria. More so in the Western Austrian states, than in Vienna, which has the highest unemployment rate in the country. Western Austrian states have an unemployment rate of just 2-4%, while Austria has 5% (which is still among the lower rates in the EU) and similar to the US unemployment rate.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I'm 34 and have a full-time job and used to work since the age of 14 and was hardly ever unemployed yet.

Yet, I see many young people here who are a bit lazy and rather like to "chill" than work, but the work ethic is still pretty good here in Austria. More so in the Western Austrian states, than in Vienna, which has the highest unemployment rate in the country. Western Austrian states have an unemployment rate of just 2-4%, while Austria has 5% (which is still among the lower rates in the EU) and similar to the US unemployment rate.

Do you have lots of McJobs in Austria where a person works full time and yet cant afford basic necessities?

In other words: do you enjoy employment FrEeDuMbZ$™ like the USA has?

 

[AJG]

I know a few people who aren't currently working simply because unemployment pays about the same as what they would get if they had a job. So I would say it's a combo of government handouts and poor pay and working conditions. If we want people to get back to work I think jobs need to pay more or people shouldn't lose out on the handouts once they find a job.

 

[calamity]

Interested in what everyone thinks

Why are so many jobs going unfilled

Supply and demand. Pay them, and they will come.

 

[JMB802]

I think lower-level employees in many places are tired of working themselves to the bone for shareholders and CEOs. And every time they meet a goal, the bar is moved higher. It's one thing to get crappy pay but like your job and feel a sense of accomplishment. It's another to get crappy pay and always feel like a failure because of unattainable corporate goals.

I know ridiculous metrics are expected of Starbucks and Target employees, I'm sure it is the same in many other places as well.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Interested in what everyone thinks

Why are so many jobs going unfilled

Which jobs are going unfilled? Looks to me like low paying customer facing roles in high unvaxxed states are suffering the most. Wonder why.

 

[TheParser]

Most people WANT to work.

Not only for the money.

Work identifies a person.

It gives structure to one's life.

Some people have nothing else in their life but work.

They do not want to "retire."

 

[RabidAlpaca]

There is no worker shortage. Companies just want people to work horrible jobs for abysmal pay they can't live on. If they paid more they'd have no trouble finding workers. This is how the free market is supposed to work, but conservatives only attack the workers unwilling to slave away for next to nothing.

 

[Antiwar]

You know what sucks the worst about working a formal job? The US government uses some of that income tax money for US militarism. US militarism sucks. **** you, US militarism. **** you, Uncle ****ing Sam, for connecting normal financial survival to US militarism, **** you.

 

[Visbek]

sigh

It is false that "no one wants to work." Hundreds of thousands of people are starting jobs every month.

The problem is that employers are accustomed to desperate job seekers who will take whatever pay they're offered. That started to go away before the pandemic -- employers have complained and raised wages for a few years now.

For those who choose not to work, polls give some hints:

Receiving enough money from UI to not work only accounts for a moderate piece -- 13%. That's the same as people who have child care obligations (14%), or are still concerned about the pandemic (13%), or aren't seeing work in their field (11%), or the job didn't offer remote options (11%), or they're in school (11%) and so on.

Expiring Unemployment Insurance Could Add Up to Nearly 2 Million Jobs This Year

The termination of federal unemployment insurance benefits is likely to produce an estimated 1.84 million jobs through the end of the year.

morningconsult.com

Unsurprisingly, cutting UI benefits hasn't resulted in a stampede back to the workforce:

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Interested in what everyone thinks

Why are so many jobs going unfilled

My daughter moved to Portland right about the time the pandemic began to get really serious.
She HAD her CALIFORNIA state cosmetology license, but as you know, salons got shut down.
She's been fully vaccinated ever since she became eligible in April, patiently waiting to get back to work.
She just aced her OREGON state cosmetology exam and now has her OREGON license, which by the way was
pretty much 95% the same test, therefore the same license, just different hoops and a different lion tamer.

Much to her surprise and pleasure, most of the salons are now offering significantly higher pay.
With the current tsunami of anti-vaxxers "dying to own the libs", the job isn't what it used to be.
She brought COVID home to us in the beginning of 2020 and we survived it, just barely.

I'm going to say that a good many of the unfilled jobs are shit jobs with shit pay, now adding the
bonus of shit working conditions where even the vaccinated may get sick.
Sure, the fact that they got the shot means they're likely to recover without a hospital stay, and they won't die.
But that doesn't change the fact that these jobs are a bit more dangerous than they used to be.

The one other bright spot is, Multnomah County, (Portland) and indeed even most of Oregon, is not what most would call
an unvaxxed state. They're doing better than a lot of places.

All that said, I sincerely hope whatever salon nabs her, will require customers to be vaxxed to enter the premises.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

A lot of people went to work in the gig economy

Alots of people delivering food and other items rather than work in fast food. A lot of people likely lost their vehicle during Covid and can not get a new one. Without a vehicle and the poor public transit in the US a lot of people can not travel to where the jobs are ( unless they walk for hours)

 

[calamity]

You know what sucks the worst about working a formal job? The US government uses some of that income tax money for US militarism. US militarism sucks. **** you, US militarism. **** you, Uncle ****ing Sam, for connecting normal financial survival to US militarism, **** you.

Agreed. I am sure it is worse to use tax dollars to murder born people than it is to annihilate brainless fetuses. But, yet the idiotic "save the fetus" crowd, gets their way. Go figure.

 

[d0gbreath]

Panama Red is back in town.

 

[mike2810]

Unemployment numbers were pretty low before covid 19 hit and the slowdown/shutdown.
Seems people were working before covid in those jobs that some say do not pay enough. The economy was doing ok.

It seems some do not want to return to work as the economy opens back up. With companies hiring isn't it a good time to look for a better job with better pay ?

Some are complaining they need more pay to be able to live. That may happen but it is going to cost all of us. Nothing is free.

 

[HIP56948]

I certainly didn't write this but most of it speaks my thoughts.
.
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Americans are, of course, the most thoroughly and passively indoctrinated people on earth. They know next to nothing as a rule about their own history, or the histories of other nations, or the histories of the various social movements that have risen and fallen in the past, and they certainly know little or nothing of the complexities and contradictions comprised within words like “socialism” and “capitalism.” Chiefly, what they have been trained not to know or even suspect is that, in many ways, they enjoy far fewer freedoms, and suffer under a more intrusive centralized state, than do the citizens of countries with more vigorous social-democratic institutions. This is at once the most comic and most tragic aspect of the excitable alarm that talk of social democracy or democratic socialism can elicit on these shores. An enormous number of Americans have been persuaded to believe that they are freer in the abstract than, say, Germans or Danes precisely because they possess far fewer freedoms in the concrete. They are far more vulnerable to medical and financial crisis, far more likely to receive inadequate health coverage, far more prone to irreparable insolvency, far more unprotected against predatory creditors, far more subject to income inequality, and so forth, while effectively paying more in tax (when one figures in federal, state, local, and sales taxes, and then compounds those by all the expenditures that in this country, as almost nowhere else, their taxes do not cover). One might think that a people who once rebelled against the mightiest empire on earth on the principle of no taxation without representation would not meekly accept taxation without adequate government services. But we accept what we have become used to, I suppose. Even so, one has to ask, what state apparatus in the “free” world could be more powerful and tyrannical than the one that taxes its citizens while providing no substantial civic benefits in return, solely in order to enrich a piratically overinflated military-industrial complex and to ease the tax burdens of the immensely wealthy?

Our cruel, inefficient, and monstrously expensive health system makes this obvious. Nations that provide either single-payer healthcare (like the UK) or a well-administered public option (like Germany) do indeed tax their populations for the purpose. But this is hardly a gross imposition on their citizens. For one thing, they distribute tax liability far more equally across income brackets than we do. For another, they strictly regulate the prices providers may charge. The result is that the cost of health care in these countries is roughly half what it is here per capita, and the actual cost for individuals (especially those who are not extravagantly rich) is only a fraction of what we are expected to pay for the same services. The relative pittance most of us would be taxed to sustain a real public option or national health service would be—so long as our legislators were willing simultaneously to regulate pharmaceutical and other medical providers humanely and sensibly—as nothing compared to what we actually pay right now for the privilege of discovering, when the next shockingly unexpected medical bill arrives, that we still have far more to pay.

 

[Phys251]

Interested in what everyone thinks

Why are so many jobs going unfilled

You mean people are sick and tired of being paid $7.25 an hour to deal with a bunch of Karens and manbabies? Say it ain't so!

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I certainly didn't write this but most of it speaks my thoughts.
.
.
Americans are, of course, the most thoroughly and passively indoctrinated people on earth. They know next to nothing as a rule about their own history, or the histories of other nations, or the histories of the various social movements that have risen and fallen in the past, and they certainly know little or nothing of the complexities and contradictions comprised within words like “socialism” and “capitalism.” Chiefly, what they have been trained not to know or even suspect is that, in many ways, they enjoy far fewer freedoms, and suffer under a more intrusive centralized state, than do the citizens of countries with more vigorous social-democratic institutions. This is at once the most comic and most tragic aspect of the excitable alarm that talk of social democracy or democratic socialism can elicit on these shores. An enormous number of Americans have been persuaded to believe that they are freer in the abstract than, say, Germans or Danes precisely because they possess far fewer freedoms in the concrete. They are far more vulnerable to medical and financial crisis, far more likely to receive inadequate health coverage, far more prone to irreparable insolvency, far more unprotected against predatory creditors, far more subject to income inequality, and so forth, while effectively paying more in tax (when one figures in federal, state, local, and sales taxes, and then compounds those by all the expenditures that in this country, as almost nowhere else, their taxes do not cover). One might think that a people who once rebelled against the mightiest empire on earth on the principle of no taxation without representation would not meekly accept taxation without adequate government services. But we accept what we have become used to, I suppose. Even so, one has to ask, what state apparatus in the “free” world could be more powerful and tyrannical than the one that taxes its citizens while providing no substantial civic benefits in return, solely in order to enrich a piratically overinflated military-industrial complex and to ease the tax burdens of the immensely wealthy?

Our cruel, inefficient, and monstrously expensive health system makes this obvious. Nations that provide either single-payer healthcare (like the UK) or a well-administered public option (like Germany) do indeed tax their populations for the purpose. But this is hardly a gross imposition on their citizens. For one thing, they distribute tax liability far more equally across income brackets than we do. For another, they strictly regulate the prices providers may charge. The result is that the cost of health care in these countries is roughly half what it is here per capita, and the actual cost for individuals (especially those who are not extravagantly rich) is only a fraction of what we are expected to pay for the same services. The relative pittance most of us would be taxed to sustain a real public option or national health service would be—so long as our legislators were willing simultaneously to regulate pharmaceutical and other medical providers humanely and sensibly—as nothing compared to what we actually pay right now for the privilege of discovering, when the next shockingly unexpected medical bill arrives, that we still have far more to pay.

Awesome!!

Now THATS FrEeDuMbZ$™!!!!!!
AMERICAN style!!!!

 

[Sean Crabtree]

Make companies compete for employees instead of employees competing for jobs. Power to the worker, **** the corporations.

 

[Moderate Right]

Interested in what everyone thinks

Why are so many jobs going unfilled

I have to laugh at those who voted poor pay and working conditions. Typical leftist bullshit "I'm not going to work anywhere because of low pay and bad working conditions". Meanwhile, they take in government benefits and become couch potatoes. Take their government benefits away and see if they would rather live in this world with zero income.