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NOAA: 2014 is shaping up as hottest year on record[W:199]

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Those mountains would have moved a maximum of 29 centimeters over the course of 30 years. You really should brush up on your plate tectonics.

Snow lines moving up in altitude, as well as tree lines, and the retreat of alpine glaciers is happening in almost all mountain ranges across the globe.
 
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I call bull****, no way it's been warmer. I know my area it certainly hasn't.
 
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KLATTU said:
You are argung with one of the few remaining pause deniers in the warmist camp.even the hard core warmists like Trenberth and Schmidy have have given up on that one. LOL
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I wonder if you can see the "trends" in this graph a little more clearly. Warming has not stopped at all.



The Oceans have continued to warm also....

Climate myths: Global warming stopped in 1998 - environment - 15 August 2008 - New Scientist

See how easy it is to learn something?
 
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You only have 130 years to work with, I have thousands.
Greenland didn't get its name being snowbound. Chew on that awhile.
 
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Meister said:
You only have 130 years to work with, I have thousands.
Greenland didn't get its name being snowbound. Chew on that awhile.
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Well, when you look at the long term stuff, it looks worse.



Chew on that a while.
 
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Threegoofs said:
Well, when you look at the long term stuff, it looks worse.

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Chew on that a while.
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Seriously? Was that with a Fahrenheit or Celsius thermometer?
Coming out of an iceage....yup it has been getting warmer,
with or without man.
 
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Meister said:
Seriously? Was that with a Fahrenheit or Celsius thermometer?
Coming out of an iceage....yup it has been getting warmer,
with or without man.
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Thanks for the nonsensical response. I know I could count on one, but I really am impressed you pulled all the stops out this time.
 
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iguanaman said:
I wonder if you can see the "trends" in this graph a little more clearly. Warming has not stopped at all.
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It's pretty easy to claim there has been no pause when you post a graph that stops immediately after the pause began. You do know that even the most hard core climatista scientist has admitted there has been a 15+ year pause don't you??? Here's a more up to date graph that shows the beginning of the pause, even though it does not show it completely.




The Oceans have continued to warm also....


Climate myths: Global warming stopped in 1998 - environment - 15 August 2008 - New Scientist

See how easy it is to learn something?
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Not really. The oceans are so vast that they can absorb almost limitless amounts of heat. And this is only to 2,000 meters while the ocean is many thousands of meters deeper, but the NOAA buoys only measure to 2,000 meters.



See how easy it is to learn something rather that cutting and pasting from New Scientist or some other alarmist site.
 
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Threegoofs said:
Thanks for the nonsensical response. I know I could count on one, but I really am impressed you pulled all the stops out this time.
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Get back to me when it can be proved that it really is AGW.
Until then it really is nonsense and politically motivated.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
The continuous US constitutes less than 5% of the world's surface, so what is your point??
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Who was recording the world's temps back in the early 1900s?
 
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WCH said:
Who was recording the world's temps back in the early 1900s?
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We have temperature records back to the 1900s. More importantly though, we also have various proxies that we can go back much farther with. Why would you be so arrogant to think that something has occurred to you that has not occurred to climatologists that spend their life working in their field?
 
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Not all climatologists agree.

My point is that those methods and gauges are not accurate enough [or in enough places] to make sound judgments when were talking about such a small variance.
 
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WCH said:
Not all climatologists agree.

My point is that those methods and gauges are not accurate enough to make sound judgments when were talking about such a small variance.
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The vast, vast majority of climatologists do agree though.
 
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If these proxies were so good, why did Mann and Jones dismiss tree ring proxies in the late 20th century because they did not conform to their preconceived theory that temperatures were rising. This was the source of "hide the decline" where Mann added surface temp readings onto tree ring proxies without disclosing it in his paper.
 
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The GISS average before the November data is 64.9,
So both Nov and Dec would have to come in higher for 2014 to be the hottest year in the GISS.
RSS has reported Nov 2014 as below 7 of the last 14 years.
What is interesting, is the sudden divergence between the GISS and the RSS.
 
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Gill said:
If Wikipedia said it, then it must be true.

I'll admit that Wiki has gotten a tiny bit better since they booted William Connolley. He deleted everything on all the Wiki climate pages that dared to be skeptical of AGW.
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The entire article is sourced and footnoted.
 
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iguanaman said:
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See how easy it is to learn something?
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Sure. mr . science denier.
Here's triplesuper warmist Gavin Schmidt devoting a whole paper to the pause in global warming. ( or as he euphemistically calls it - a slown-lol)
http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v7/n3/full/ngeo2105.html

agin for the umptennth tiime- why are all these warmists writing articles and papers about the ein global warming if there isn't one?
 
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Gill said:
Of course it is, sourced and footnoted to support the favored theory.
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It is sourced and footnoted to point out the level of consensus on AGW, that basically every major scientific society and organization on earth accepts the theory.

In the end its all neither here nor there as its not like we are going to do anything about it.
 
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