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No Matter Who Wins The Electoral College Must Go Bye Bye

Your post displays unbounded ignorance.

There is a coalition of 50 Arab States organized to limit Islamic Terrorism. To help you understand simple English, that means Iran.

The nuclear agreement limiting the advances made by Iran, signed by Iran and a variety of other countries, was completed only by the payment of the bribe of about 150 billion dollars.

Even after the US left the Agreement, the agreement was still in force. ALL of the other countries were still participants and the Iranians continued to cheat both before and after the US left.

Democrat-Socialists are so cute! They know absolutely NOTHING, but they are absolutely sure that everything they don't know is true.

Does any fact from the real world EVER interrupt you?

Is this the coalition of 34 Arab states that you are referring to? (Not 50 Arab states)

It excludes Iran. Amazing....you LITERALLY get NOTHING right!! I guess you're the one who needs to go back to English class. LOL!

In addition to Saudi Arabia, the coalition will include Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Pakistan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Benin, Turkey, Chad, Togo, Tunisia, Djibouti, Senegal, Sudan, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Gabon, Guinea, the Palestinians, Comoros, Qatar, Cote d'Ivoire, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Maldives, Mali, Malaysia, Egypt, Morocco, Mauritania, Niger, Nigeria and Yemen.


 
No it wasn't. That's why the Senate was created with 2 Senators from each state. Small states already receive more representation than they deserve.

Of course, this is what Repugs want, because it's their only chance to keep power in the Senate and to win the Presidency.
"Deserve"? Who decides that?
 
You still have a Senate that over-represents the small states, so I don't know how removing the electoral college hurts the small states.
You just explained why removing the Electoral College hurts small states.

The Electoral College will never be abolished. Live with that knowledge.
 
"Deserve"? Who decides that?

It's my opinion. Are we allowed to have that around here?

It's not right to me that 10 states with a total of like 2 million people get 20 Senators, whereas California with 40 million people only gets 2 Senators. No wonder the worthless Republican Party is still around.
 
You just explained why removing the Electoral College hurts small states.

The Electoral College will never be abolished. Live with that knowledge.

I don't take my directions from you. Maybe if Trump and your fascist Repug Party stopped trying to overturn the election results via the EC voters, I wouldn't be as concerned about the Electoral College.
 
I don't take my directions from you. Maybe if Trump and your fascist Repug Party stopped trying to overturn the election results via the EC voters, I wouldn't be as concerned about the Electoral College.
I'm not a Republican or a fascist, and I've despised Trump since the 1980s.

By the time the Democrats controlled enough states to ratify an amendment abolishing the Electoral College they'd control the election. They'd be stupid to abolish the Electoral College at that point.
 
It's my opinion. Are we allowed to have that around here?

It's not right to me that 10 states with a total of like 2 million people get 20 Senators, whereas California with 40 million people only gets 2 Senators. No wonder the worthless Republican Party is still around.
I infer that you feel that only Democrats should control the government.
 
I'm not a Republican or a fascist, and I've despised Trump since the 1980s.

By the time the Democrats controlled enough states to ratify an amendment abolishing the Electoral College they'd control the election. They'd be stupid to abolish the Electoral College at that point.

I've heard that tired line from you before, about "despising Trump since the 1980s". I don't believe it.
 
I've heard that tired line from you before, about "despising Trump since the 1980s". I don't believe it.
That's the problem with a dishonest man. He can't trust anyone.
 
Biden Won the popular vote and electoral college .........
 
Iran is more dangerous than ever, thanks to Trump. As the article states.

All you have are your worthless Repug opinions, which don't matter compared to the facts.

In addition to my opinions, I also have the real world actions of other countries, INCLUDING IRAN.

Seems like I heard a lot about Iran's mischief following the infusion of the 150 billion dollars by Obama. The Caliphate and so forth... Not so much now. Go figure.

Don't worry, though. Biden will send Lurch over to Iran, re-fund their terror program and nuclear program and get things back on track for you.

Too bad. After Trump traveled from the seat of one religion to another to help unify the region, Biden will undo the work in a few months. I wonder when the Embassy will be moved back to Tel Aviv.

You may have missed the news on improvements in the area since you only consume News as packaged by your DNC Propaganda Masters.
 
Is this the coalition of 34 Arab states that you are referring to? (Not 50 Arab states)

It excludes Iran. Amazing....you LITERALLY get NOTHING right!! I guess you're the one who needs to go back to English class. LOL!





Perfect!

You dismiss the main message due to details you need to stretch to find. You must be a Democrat-Socialist.

The major point in this is that the folks in the area are doing the work and taking the risks AND buying weapons sold by the US to do so.

Trump withdrew the US troops from harm's way, arranged for the sale of the weapons, still got the job done by communicating with the locals and advanced peace in the region.

These are ALL things missed by Obama and your propaganda masters.

You have the answer, but you throw it away.

Why is this?

In passing:


<snip>
WORLD
Middle East Allies: 68 Nations Involved in Fighting ISIS Gather to Hear Trump Plan
BY TOM O'CONNOR ON 3/21/17 AT 5:36 PM EDT
<snip>
 
Perfect!

You dismiss the main message due to details you need to stretch to find. You must be a Democrat-Socialist.

The major point in this is that the folks in the area are doing the work and taking the risks AND buying weapons sold by the US to do so.

Trump withdrew the US troops from harm's way, arranged for the sale of the weapons, still got the job done by communicating with the locals and advanced peace in the region.

These are ALL things missed by Obama and your propaganda masters.

You have the answer, but you throw it away.

Why is this?

In passing:


<snip>
WORLD
Middle East Allies: 68 Nations Involved in Fighting ISIS Gather to Hear Trump Plan
BY TOM O'CONNOR ON 3/21/17 AT 5:36 PM EDT
<snip>

Dude, you said Iran was part of this coalition. It was a foolish statement and you were categorically wrong. That WAS your main point.

Just give it up. It's obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about. Now you're trying to backtrack, because you aren't intellectually honest enough to admit that you were wrong. Pitiful, but I expect nothing less from a Trump supporter.
 
Dude, you said Iran was part of this coalition. It was a foolish statement and you were categorically wrong. That WAS your main point.

Just give it up. It's obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about. Now you're trying to backtrack, because you aren't intellectually honest enough to admit that you were wrong. Pitiful, but I expect nothing less from a Trump supporter.

You believe that a coalition formed to reign in the eccentricities of Iran's misguided government includes the Government of Iran?

I am getting a better grasp of your inability to access reality.
 
You believe that a coalition formed to reign in the eccentricities of Iran's misguided government includes the Government of Iran?

I am getting a better grasp of your inability to access reality.

Just admit that you ****ed-up when you said Iran was part of this Arab coalition. You simply can't do it.

I see why Trump attracts so many intellectually dishonest people.
 
Just admit that you ****ed-up when you said Iran was part of this Arab coalition. You simply can't do it.

I see why Trump attracts so many intellectually dishonest people.

If i said that it was a typo.

Care to cut and paste whatever it is that has you so elated?
 
My mistake, I misread this statement --

There is a coalition of 50 Arab States organized to limit Islamic Terrorism. To help you understand simple English, that means Iran.

I thought you were saying Iran is part of the Arab coalition.
 
Obama was a Communist who lied to you and all except his inner circle about his motives and goals. You not understanding or seeing this does not change the reality.

Hilary promised to maintain what Obama was doing, but was not Black. She lost. Her platform was Obama's platform. The platform without the Black man lost.

Joe Biden's description of Obama may help to clear up why Jesse Jackson was not elected president. Biden said:

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he (Biden) said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

Biden, like so many Democrat-Socialists is a a virulent racist. Can you IMAGINE the feigned outrage if a Republican described Obama with EXACTLY the same definitions?
Obama is not a communist....you need to really stop changing the definition of communism
 
Obama is not a communist....you need to really stop changing the definition of communism

Whether he was defining the private sector as the enemy or moving toward single payer healthcare, he was defining himself and his programs as being communist.

You love Obama and, as he did, you recognize that being a communist just doesn't sell in the US today.

Your love of Obama and your understanding that Americans don't embrace Communism doesn't change the reality of Obama's true ideas and goals.

 
@ClaraD
@code1211

Barry boy is not a communist
He is a Black Nationalist.


His first consideration is how "it" will effect Black people.
Once that was satisfied he functions as a plutocrat. Wall St./Banks interests
Witness all Americans must pay into Health Insurance, Inc. profits, by law.
He served the wealthy and became one of them too.
(Wasn't Truman the last President to leave office "poor"?)

What part don't yous get?


Moi

Voted Obama '08.
 
Whether he was defining the private sector as the enemy or moving toward single payer healthcare, he was defining himself and his programs as being communist.

You love Obama and, as he did, you recognize that being a communist just doesn't sell in the US today.

Your love of Obama and your understanding that Americans don't embrace Communism doesn't change the reality of Obama's true ideas and goals.

So is Finland and Canada communist? What about Switzerland? Or Germany? Or England? How about Greenland? all of them have national health care...again you need to learn what Communism is...because you clearly do not know.
 
@ClaraD
@code1211

Barry boy is not a communist
He is a Black Nationalist.


His first consideration is how "it" will effect Black people.
Once that was satisfied he functions as a plutocrat. Wall St./Banks interests
Witness all Americans must pay into Health Insurance, Inc. profits, by law.
He served the wealthy and became one of them too.
(Wasn't Truman the last President to leave office "poor"?)

What part don't yous get?


Moi

Voted Obama '08.
Trump is a Nationalist...Obama is not a Nationalist...he is a moderate Democrat.
 
Trump is a Nationalist...Obama is not a Nationalist...he is a moderate Democrat.

Obama is a BLACK Nationalist. Not an 🇺🇸 nationalist as is Trump.
Barry demonstrated his Black nationalism by his appointments to Federal positions.
Further demonstrated by his silence as Ferguson, Missouri burned
yet he had time to eulogize Saint Trayvon the Martyr.


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Moi
Voted Obama '08
 
Follow the latest on Election 2020

Opinion by
Katrina vanden Heuvel
Columnist
November 3, 2020 at 7:00 a.m. CST

Something’s happening in Texas. Before today’s election, 9.7 million Texans had already voted — 108 percent of total ballots cast there in the last presidential election. In just four years, Texas has catapulted from second-to-last in voter turnout to a national leader in early voting. This is no coincidence. Now that this once-red state is emerging as a toss-up, residents are turning out in record numbers, believing that their votes will finally have a meaningful effect on the presidential election. Though this is a tremendous success story, it also underlines one of our Constitution’s greatest failures: Under the electoral college, some votes matter far more than others.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) may have said it best: “Call me old-fashioned, but I think the person who gets the most votes should win.” The electoral college is indeed an undemocratic travesty, and no matter who wins this election, it’s time for us to move toward a national popular vote.

Many electoral college advocates cite its anti-democratic nature as a benefit, explaining that the institution serves as a bulwark against the so-called “tyranny of the majority.” In reality, however, the institution enables a tyranny of the minority, allowing political factions to entrench their rule by appealing to a small group of voters. It’s mathematically possible to win the electoral college with less than 22 percent of the popular vote. That’s an extreme case, but the fact remains that, under the electoral college, a voter in Wyoming has nearly four times the power of a voter in California.

By creating artificially narrow results, the electoral college makes it 40 times more likely that the results are close enough that the outcome could be swung by unelected judges. No wonder 61 percent of Americans support the electoral college’s abolition, according to a recent Gallup poll.

Likewise, consider the not-so-far-fetched scenario in which today’s election ends in a 269-269 draw. The decision then goes to the House of Representatives, where each state delegation casts one vote. In this situation, the state of North Dakota (population: 762,000) has the same influence as Texas (population: 29 million). In theory, delegations representing just 16 percent of the total U.S. population could pick the next president.
The electoral system is fine, it works as intended. It is designed to protect all states and ensure they have a voice.
 
The electoral system is fine, it works as intended. It is designed to protect all states and ensure they have a voice.

Good, then no one will mind if we overturn Citizens United AND outlaw gerrymandering, get rid of the filibuster and replace it with the original recipe where one must stand and deliver at the podium, no refreshments except water and no bathroom breaks.
The EC by itself is by comparison not that big of a deal but when it is tied to rulings that turn multi-billion dollar market forces into individual immortal individuals who get to "enjoy their human rights" like no mortal human can, and locked to a corrupt system in which lawmakers choose their voters instead of vice versa, it becomes a weapon against democracy.
Tying vote power to corporations and drawing exclusionary vote maps is not democracy, it's the manufacture of consent and the purchase of government wholesale.

EC, gerrymandering, CU and the push button filibuster, you can choose any ONE you wish but you do not get to have ALL FOUR.
 
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