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No End in Sight to Venezuela’s Blackout, Experts Warn

Rogue Valley

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No End in Sight to Venezuela’s Blackout, Experts Warn

Those fleeing Venezuela say it's nearly impossible to cope with the blackout, now in its fifth day.




I think all who are prophesying some master conspiracy here by the United States need to pump the brakes. Venezuela has been on the brink of implosion for some time now. 100,000 percent hyperinflation. Millions have fled from starvation and violence. The brightest bureaucrats and technicians that kept this nation above water have departed for brighter pastures. The infrastructure is decrepit and abandoned. The power blackout is emblematic of a nation that no longer functions even minimally at numerous levels. This particular failure is simply more "visible" than many of the other catastrophe's plaguing this country. Unfortunately, I predict conditions will worsen.

Related: For some Venezuelan migrants, blackout was 'the last straw'
 

I am sure the conspiracy theorists will find some way to pin this on American imperialism and is just a ploy to make glorious 100% legitimately elected Maduro look bad.
 
I am sure the conspiracy theorists will find some way to pin this on American imperialism and is just a ploy to make glorious 100% legitimately elected Maduro look bad.

I'm sure he'd like to blame America for Venezuela's woes, but most of the Venezuelans aren't buying that. There's no food, no medicine, no social order, and now no electricity, and the Venezuelan army is not allowing foreign humanitarian aid into the country. It's hard to see how anything could get worse in that nation.
 

it like in ussr in 1991 , just before it has collapsed. great news for the locals , freedom will come very soon
 
The ante has just been upped.


From: Venezuela: Guaido under investigation for 'sabotage' of power grid | World news | The Guardian

Staff at the embassy has become a constraint on UU policy. That sounds like something bigger than blacking out most of Venezuela is in store for that country.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 

Diplomats cannot effectively work, and work effectively, without power. A power blackout also affects their security arrangements and communications. Venezuela is in the fifth day of a nationwide power blackout. Citizens in Caracas are now drinking water direct from the Guaire River which flows through the city and contains raw sewerage. This means that the risk of disease and epidemics, especially Cholera, has increased dramatically. Hospitals are already on pass-through. Reports say as many as 50 newborns have died in hospitals due to the extended power outage. If this nation descends into civil war, which is looking ever more likely, it is best to remove all US diplomatic staff beforehand. It would be - a rather difficult and dicey situation - if the Maduro colectivo thugs kidnapped our embassy staff and held them as hostages. I tend to think there is an increasing chance that the US Navy will shortly begin to embargo Venezuelan oil shipments to Cuba. The Cuban government will then have a decision to make .... withdraw it's military support for Maduro or risk an economic implosion within its own shores.
 

Rogue Valley:

So freedom of navigation and freedom of trade only applies when the US State approves of it? Is it any wonder why other states with the means to do so are up arming their naval forces for littoral-control and area-denial purposes.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 

I simply jumped a few moves ahead on the strategic chess board. Where did you get the impression that I would approve?

You don't know me well enough to assume anything.
 
I simply jumped a few moves ahead on the strategic chess board. Where did you get the impression that I would approve?

You don't know me well enough to assume anything.

Rogue Valley:

It was a rhetorical question rather than an attempt at characterisation of your thinking. I assumed nothing about you but rather asked a general question for rhetorical purposes and then drew a conclusion about how other states are reacting to the implications of that rhetorical question.

But you are right about me not understanding you or your thinking. I freely admit that. Human beings are complex creatures and fathoming their thinking is often baffling to me. I do however find you an interesting person because despite the divide between our publicly stated positions on many issues you are clearly well-informed, experienced, analytical, disciplined and very determined, thus you have authority and gravitas in my estimation. Don't think this is toadying or fawning. It is not. These are just the facts as I see them.

Cheers.
Baffledroddy.
 
Trump Pence Pompeo Abrams and Rubio have stated many times that all options are on the table.

Like Stuxnet in Iran, cyber warfare in this case was likely a cake walk.

Sure the US is really concerned about those starving Venezuelans. That's why they turned off their power.
 


People collect water along the banks of the polluted Guaire River in Caracas. This can lead to cholera and other water-borne diseases.
 
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