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No child (that can pass the test) left behind act (1 Viewer)

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No child (that is chosen) left behind act

Interestingly about 1 in 14 children are being left behind with the government’s permission under the “No child left behind” Act.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12357165/
 
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Is it a surprise? The act only emphasizes on a standard to be met and teachers to be held at blame if thier students don't meet the bar. It does not address the issue of how to do so. Sure it's the teachers responsibilities for that, however the curiculums have not changed, and backwards states like KS want to deminish science. Is it any wonder why kids are flunking?
The blame is on average parents, not stressing the importance of a high level of education or setting a roll model for thier kids at home on education. Instead pampering the childeren with video games, ipods, computers and so on for "good behavior" but not instilling the strife of high achievments. Education does not stop at the doors of school, but must continue on even at the dinner table. The level of math and science in schools here in the US are a joke. I had undergrads taking out calculators to do simple addition and subtractions, which would've been a laughing stock anywhere in Asia.
 
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This sounds like more bad teachers, covering their butts, as usual.:roll:

As long as the powerful teachers Unions continue to have their way, this will only get worse. If you can afford to put your kids in private school, do it, or if you can move to another district, do that, but don't wait for this to change, because it won't. I always knew this plan didn't have a chance, not because it's a bad plan, but because the teachers Unions continue to run rough shot over everyone.
 
Deegan said:
This sounds like more bad teachers, covering their butts, as usual.:roll:

As long as the powerful teachers Unions continue to have their way, this will only get worse. If you can afford to put your kids in private school, do it, or if you can move to another district, do that, but don't wait for this to change, because it won't. I always knew this plan didn't have a chance, not because it's a bad plan, but because the teachers Unions continue to run rough shot over everyone.
I can not agree with privatization or coorperatization of education. What it leads to is a society of a lottery by birth. Education is too important and too much an issue of national importance then to be privatized.
I think there should be two paths. Let's face the facts, college simply isn't for everyone, and everyone learns differently.
I think more emphasis should be given to vocational education. Some kids need a more hands on approach to understand the concepts and real world applications of an education, otherwise it always seems like something very virtual and surreal.
 
jfuh said:
I can not agree with privatization or coorperatization of education. What it leads to is a society of a lottery by birth.

Please you support abortion!:rofl Talk about lives being a lottery. What a laugh!

I will agree with you though that parents should share the blame both for abortion and for kids who can't read and pass relatively easy tests that are written grades below the level they should be at.
 
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jfuh said:
I can not agree with privatization or coorperatization of education. What it leads to is a society of a lottery by birth. Education is too important and too much an issue of national importance then to be privatized.
I think there should be two paths. Let's face the facts, college simply isn't for everyone, and everyone learns differently.
I think more emphasis should be given to vocational education. Some kids need a more hands on approach to understand the concepts and real world applications of an education, otherwise it always seems like something very virtual and surreal.

Not at all, those who can pay, should. This opens up the schools for more meaningful learning for those who can't, and competition, has never been a bad thing.
 
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Not at all, those who can pay, should. This opens up the schools for more meaningful learning for those who can't, and competition, has never been a bad thing.
The problem with this would be it's segregating. It would be poor students in one school rich blokes in another.
Then there would be those that argue, well why should I pay when they needn't pay? Then the whole welfare and social inequality garbage that follows.
The point is to raise the standard of education of students at school facilities. The schools in the US used to be the best in the world, now, are the laughing stock of the world. Universities are filled primarily today not by 2nd or 3rd generation American's but mostly by 1st generation immigrants. What does that say of the failure of the education system here? Keep in mind that it is already a very much privatized system as well.
Japan vs US. almost 70% of Japanese college graduates have a degree in sciences, contrast that with around 20% here in the US.

My personal opinion is that Americans generally waste too much time and attention on entertainment, primarily on sports. This whole sports star idolization to become just like you're favorite basketball player or so on. In east asian societies, certainly there's an idolization of sports stars and so on, but even higher idolization of scientists and engineers. The understanding that brain power triumphs physical power anyday.
Kids here in highschool get out of school at what? 2pm in the afternoon? What do you expect them to do between 2~5 when the parents are absent and thier bodies are developing strange masses they don't understand yet.
Kids are failing today not just because of the teachers or the school boards but because of failures of parents and society instilling in them the wrong emphasis'.
 
jfuh said:
The problem with this would be it's segregating. It would be poor students in one school rich blokes in another.
Then there would be those that argue, well why should I pay when they needn't pay? Then the whole welfare and social inequality garbage that follows.
The point is to raise the standard of education of students at school facilities. The schools in the US used to be the best in the world, now, are the laughing stock of the world. Universities are filled primarily today not by 2nd or 3rd generation American's but mostly by 1st generation immigrants. What does that say of the failure of the education system here? Keep in mind that it is already a very much privatized system as well.
Japan vs US. almost 70% of Japanese college graduates have a degree in sciences, contrast that with around 20% here in the US.

My personal opinion is that Americans generally waste too much time and attention on entertainment, primarily on sports. This whole sports star idolization to become just like you're favorite basketball player or so on. In east asian societies, certainly there's an idolization of sports stars and so on, but even higher idolization of scientists and engineers. The understanding that brain power triumphs physical power anyday.
Kids here in highschool get out of school at what? 2pm in the afternoon? What do you expect them to do between 2~5 when the parents are absent and thier bodies are developing strange masses they don't understand yet.
Kids are failing today not just because of the teachers or the school boards but because of failures of parents and society instilling in them the wrong emphasis'.

If segregation was bad, we wouldn't have Moorehouse college in Atlanta, it cuts both ways, let's just all be sensible about this shall we?
 
Deegan said:
If segregation was bad, we wouldn't have Moorehouse college in Atlanta, it cuts both ways, let's just all be sensible about this shall we?
?? Moorehouse??
 
Moorehouse is segregated? :shocked2:
 
Deegan said:
Not at all, those who can pay, should. This opens up the schools for more meaningful learning for those who can't, and competition, has never been a bad thing.

I agree with you on this one. Abolish the Department of Education, and let the private sector handle teaching our kids. Business can do a lot better than the government at it. In fact, I am sure that Bozo the Clown could do better too, but I would like to shoot higher than Bozo. Too bad the government isnt willing to.
 
Deegan said:
If segregation was bad, we wouldn't have Moorehouse college in Atlanta, it cuts both ways, let's just all be sensible about this shall we?
It's just as bad, in the opposite direction. It instills the same kind of racist attitude. Not what is needed.
 

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