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Next President in 2028-----America's last chance to redeem itself

If one wants to win elections, one must address the voter’s perceptions, views, wants, wishes, feelings, etc. Being anti-Trump is a negative. Especially for voters looking for a positive or a reason to vote for the democratic candidates other than just being anti-Trump. One can continue to believe the voters are dumb, that won’t get you or the democrats back in power or to get rid of Trump. At least at the ballot box.
agree, yes----if one wants to win elections.....
The history of the last 3 elections shows being anti-Trump gets you about 45% of the vote just like being pro-Trump gets the GOP roughly 45% of the vote. Then it becomes a question is how to get most of the remaining 10% to vote for your candidate and party. They’re not interested in either the pro nor the anti-Trump rhetoric, they want to know how you or the GOP plans on addressing the problems, issues that are dear to them. Party doesn’t matter to them, but probable solutions do. The Democrats are leaderless, rudderless today while being 100% anti-Trump. If the midterms were held today, the GOP would probably gain 2-5 seats in the house and a senate seat or two.
good points


The Dems need to find a great candidate............
 
agree, yes----if one wants to win elections.....

good points


The Dems need to find a great candidate............
If you don’t mind a political realist talking, I’d like to go back to 2016 when Trump won and the GOP held both the house and the senate. That was when Pelosi stepped forward, took the leadership reins, guided the democrats to a 42-seat gain in the house in the 2018 midterms. So far there’s been no Pelosi to step forward when once again the GOP holds the presidency and both chambers of congress. No one to guide the democrats back to the promise land so to speak. Schumer, Jeffreys are way too timid. Harris, unlike Trump when he lost in 2020 has faded away into oblivion.

Pelosi back after 2016 had only 194 democrats in the house, she had no power outside of being the democratic house minority leader. But she became the mouthpiece of the democrats and was constantly in Trump’s face, again so to speak. She received hell from Trump and the republicans, but she held her own and gave in my opinion more than she took. Until the democrats come up with a leader, they will remain rudderless, just drifting in the sea of politics. The democrats need but 3 seats in the house to regain control. They’re not going to get them being adrift. They need direction, especially in the arena of public opinion. Trump is controlling that arena today. That needs to change. My two cents.

My focus is on 2026, not 2028. 2026 will set up 2028.
 
When I say Rightie I don't mean Conservatives or Republicans. I voted for a Conservative here in Canada. I know the difference. So I am selective with my language.
If you don't like Rightie, how about calling them Rightwing Fruitcakes, or if you insist on my using the word "white" how about I use the term Whitey Tighties, which does NOT include all white people, just the Tighties who always get their shorts into a knot.
I could say the MAGA types or Trumpers. I would not say Trump voters because many voters voting for something other than what they are getting. But the MAGA types or Trumpers as I call them, are bigoted small-minded, hateful pissants.
I could even make another distinction: Conservatism used to mean something. Now Trumpers want him to pass a massive bill that will further explode the deficit. Conservatives used to be for free trade and it was Liberals who were protectionists. Go figure.
In that regard, those that are a Rightie, or a Rightwing Fruitcake, or a MAGA type, are a bunch of sad losers who are anything but Conservative.

I hope I have now clarified my position so I don't have to clarify it again.
Thanx. Appreciate the explanation.👍
 
PAY ATTENTION:
No sooner did I predict that no Rightie would vote for a black man, we got this reply:

Yeah, it's the "left's" fault for pointing out that a black person can not get votes from the Right. I can guarantee you, IF NOT ONE of us leftist EVER mentioned race, a black man (and especially a black woman) would never get a Rightwing vote anyways.

So, cry us a river, it's not like we haven't seen or heard all the racist chants thrown at Obama when he was President. And from which side of the political spectrum did those chants come from?

If those on the Right don't want us bringing out the fact there are racists on the Right, then the Right should stop being racist. Duh!

See what I mean?......it never ends. You might want to go back a little further to when the democrats had the public lynching, headed by none other than Joe Biden of Justice Thomas. Then of course, we cannot forget it was the left who formed the KKK and fought against the Civil Rights Acts. The Republican Party was formed to "END" slavery.
 
If the far right knows that it's going to lose, I tend to doubt that it will be enthusiastic about letting that happen.
 
If you don’t mind a political realist talking, I’d like to go back to 2016 when Trump won and the GOP held both the house and the senate. That was when Pelosi stepped forward, took the leadership reins, guided the democrats to a 42-seat gain in the house in the 2018 midterms. So far there’s been no Pelosi to step forward when once again the GOP holds the presidency and both chambers of congress. No one to guide the democrats back to the promise land so to speak. Schumer, Jeffreys are way too timid. Harris, unlike Trump when he lost in 2020 has faded away into oblivion.

Pelosi back after 2016 had only 194 democrats in the house, she had no power outside of being the democratic house minority leader. But she became the mouthpiece of the democrats and was constantly in Trump’s face, again so to speak. She received hell from Trump and the republicans, but she held her own and gave in my opinion more than she took. Until the democrats come up with a leader, they will remain rudderless, just drifting in the sea of politics. The democrats need but 3 seats in the house to regain control. They’re not going to get them being adrift. They need direction, especially in the arena of public opinion. Trump is controlling that arena today. That needs to change. My two cents.

My focus is on 2026, not 2028. 2026 will set up 2028.
Yes---2026 is what matters now. In a way it is sad, although a reality, that the general population needs a "leader" to raise up the Dems-------they should be able to figure it out by themselves.....
 
Yes---2026 is what matters now. In a way it is sad, although a reality, that the general population needs a "leader" to raise up the Dems-------they should be able to figure it out by themselves.....
Maybe the people, will figure it out themselves. It’s still early. But most folks need some pushing which so far, the democrats haven’t done. Right now, a majority of Americans view both major parties as being bad. The republican party a bit less bad. Questions 14A and B. This needs to change, but the big question is how do the democrats change that perception?

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_WokQXF7.pdf

The democrats need to stand for something other than just being anti-Trump. Let the people know they stand for something positive.
 
well------I try ol' Redbeer.................I notice you do not try. You seem totally MAGA no matter what. You agree???

Your idea of MAGA is a lie, a fantasy, a slanderous accusation to belittle others while you sit on a high and mighty perch.
 
I don’t know anything about Moore, but as far as I know he hasn’t expressed any interest in national politics or running for the presidency. But I think the 2026 midterms at this point in time is much more important than the 2028 presidential. The democrats aren’t in very good shape even for the midterms. They’re leaderless, they don’t have a message that resonates out there in middle America, they’re stuck on just an anti-Trump message, nothing positive, then there’s the fact as of today, the Democratic Party is viewed much less favorably than the republican party. Even though Trump has brought chaos back to government and the office of the presidency.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5320664-democrats-republicans-popularity-poll/

I figure that the avid, MAGA, pro-Trumpers make up approximately 35% of the electorate, the die hard anti-Trumpers another 35%. What is needed is a positive message, not just anti-Trump to the remaining 30% or so. They’re not republicans, not democrats, much less either pro or anti Trump with a lot of them neither. They’re looking for a solution to rising prices, inflation, to the illegal immigration problem, the two top issues from last year that decided how these folks voted. Inflation, the economy in general was the top issue at 35%, immigration was number two, the second most important issues at 15%, every other issue was in single digits.

The democrats need to find a leader, be it Moore or someone else, they need a coherent positive message on issues important to middle America or we’ll continue to ride the Trump train so to speak in both 2026 and 2028.

Trump's approval on the economy, and inflation, are all underwater. All Democrats have to do is run on this in 2026, and they'll win.
 
Trump's approval on the economy, and inflation, are all underwater. All Democrats have to do is run on this in 2026, and they'll win.
One would think so. Trump’s been way too busy with his million and one EO’s to placate his MAGA base instead of addressing inflation and the economy. He’s done nothing, but even by doing nothing inflation seems to be easing.
 
This is not a good winning strategy ... but only one part of it.

Harris strongly energized the D base, but lost.

Elections are not won by just activating the partisan base, but by winning over other parts of the political spectrum and those are Trump voters and the smaller group of 3rd-party-voters and the large group of non-voters.

If you just fire up the base, it means nothing ... that's why Hillary and Kamala lost.

Beshear would fire up the base AND attract many Trump-voters that are needed to flip the swing states (and even more states).
I agree with you to an extent..... there are three elements to winning: 1) turnout your base; 2) win the swing voter and 3) keep the other base at home. Often there are trade-offs in trying to get you base out that gets the other guy's base out or turns off swing voters.

Harris did energize much of the part, but not enough. She did not get the turnout that Biden received. For whatever reason, some of the base did not turnout, including those that did not like the Biden Israel policy. Democrats were not highly energized. Meanwhile, the Trump base turned out, for a variety of reasons, including the he was running against a black woman.
 
We need to re-energize the Democratic base, not try to pander to tRump voters.
Had more people voted in 2024, Trump would have actually increased his margin. It is a center right country, we just have to accept that. Bill Clinton left office the most popular president since FDR and he was a moderate and governed as a moderate. Obama won big twice running as a moderate.

Let's compare that to when Democrats ran hardcore liberal candidates for president: 1972, 1984, 1988. All, landslide losses for Democrats. In all of American history, only 2 hardcore progressives have been president, LBJ and FDR. We know how LBJ got the job. FDR was first elected during the worst economic Depression in American history, and FDR is by far the most politically talented president we have ever had. So think about that, to elect a hardcore progressive for president, it took a combination of the Great Depression starting under a Republican administration, and a candidate that was by far more politically talented than any candidate for president before or since.
 
He would make a good democrat candidate, but the left will always bring race into the equation ruining his chances. People are sick and tired of the typical race baiting and the usage of good black people as a target on a dartboard. Until the left gets over only seeing the color of one's skin and having candidates who can stand on their own without the need for backstops, they still look fake as hell.
I dont know much about him, but if he could show a good record, that would get him to the election
A black man would be the media's fav and he'd be a serious challenger
 
Had more people voted in 2024, Trump would have actually increased his margin. It is a center right country, we just have to accept that. Bill Clinton left office the most popular president since FDR and he was a moderate and governed as a moderate. Obama won big twice running as a moderate.

Let's compare that to when Democrats ran hardcore liberal candidates for president: 1972, 1984, 1988. All, landslide losses for Democrats. In all of American history, only 2 hardcore progressives have been president, LBJ and FDR. We know how LBJ got the job. FDR was first elected during the worst economic Depression in American history, and FDR is by far the most politically talented president we have ever had. So think about that, to elect a hardcore progressive for president, it took a combination of the Great Depression starting under a Republican administration, and a candidate that was by far more politically talented than any candidate for president before or since.

While I see your point, I think we may be living in different times now. The internet gave us candidates like Sanders and tRump. Who knows what will come in 2028.
 
One would think so. Trump’s been way too busy with his million and one EO’s to placate his MAGA base instead of addressing inflation and the economy. He’s done nothing, but even by doing nothing inflation seems to be easing.

He's nearly a negative 20 deficit in polling on inflation, per RCP. Voters aren't buying his bullshit.
 
The Democrats are far left.
They have a corruption and lying problem.
They have a hate, racism and violence problem.
People are voting with their feet.
The mainstream voters are fleeing the blue states.
 
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