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Newt Gingrich wants new House Un-American Activities Committee (1 Viewer)

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Newt Gingrich wants new House Un-American Activities Committee - CNNPolitics.com
(CNN)Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is calling for the creation of a new House Committee on Un-American Activities, invoking the infamous "Red Scare"-era congressional body as a blueprint for weeding out American ISIS adherents and sympathizers.

"We originally created the House Un-American Activities Committee to go after Nazis," he said during an appearance on "Fox and Friends" this week. "We passed several laws in 1938 and 1939 to go after Nazis and we made it illegal to help the Nazis. We're going to presently have to go take the similar steps here."
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Well there are Gingrich supporters here, come out and tell us what you think of this?
 
apdst said:
I would like to track down ISIS supporters/sympathizers/members. Wouldn't everyone?
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That's a double edge sword.

Today it is ISIS/ISIL.

Tomorrow? Some American based "patriotic" organization.

The day after? Anyone who opposes the Party line?

NO, we cannot allow a new McCarthyist witch-hunt. Guilt by innuendo.

All I am saying is that individual rights not be violated absent due process of law.
 
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Learning from history is not a GOP strong suit. Some days, I can't tell which party needs to be destroyed more.
 
Captain Adverse said:
That's a double edge sword.

Today it is ISIS/ISIL.

Tomorrow? Some American based "patriotic" organization.

The day after? Anyone who opposes the Party line?

NO, we cannot allow a new McCarthyist witch-hunt. Guilt by innuendo.

All I am saying is that individual rights not be violated absent due process of law.
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1. McCarthy had nothing to do with the HUAC.

2. It's already happening...


Napolitano stands by controversial report - Washington Times

3. All I said was that we need to track down ISIS supporters/sympathizers/members. I never said that The Constitution be thrown out the window to do it.
 
I have a soft spot for Newt, but this is one of those classic Newt moments when he says something with the intent of sounding like a big thinker and being innovative, but hadn't sat down and thought about it for a while.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
Learning from history is not a GOP strong suit. Some days, I can't tell which party needs to be destroyed more.
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Given Newt's training as a young man, this would perhaps be a significant irony.
 
Captain Adverse said:
That's a double edge sword.

Today it is ISIS/ISIL.

Tomorrow? Some American based "patriotic" organization.


The day after? Anyone who opposes the Party line?
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Big deal - better than dying in a terrorist attack.

NO, we cannot allow a new McCarthyist witch-hunt. Guilt by innuendo.

All I am saying is that individual rights not be violated absent due process of law.
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The new Terror War is being fought by tactics designed to exploit the US system of law. These guys aren't smart enough to build fighter jets, or submarines, so they're attuning themselves to a different type of expertise, based on the chinks in America's armor. Unless Americans wake up and see the game plan, then the war will be lost.

Based on past events, there will be more terror attacks every few months. How many will have to die before people wake up and smell the coffee? Who among the "civil rights" advocates will support the civil rights of terrorism victims, and how will they take responsibility for having opposed measures that would have saved those lives?
 
It worked so well the first time.
 
This is moronic. We already have every major security agency dedicating most of its resources disproportionately to islamic terrorism; what need is there to bring back something that went down in absolute infamy in history? so that Gingrich can score some political points among a panic-stricken electorate and stroke his own ego? please
 
Fiddytree said:
I have a soft spot for Newt, but this is one of those classic Newt moments when he says something with the intent of sounding like a big thinker and being innovative, but hadn't sat down and thought about it for a while.
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I agree with you. I'm disappointed in Newt.
 
sanman said:
Big deal - better than dying in a terrorist attack.
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I remember someone saying something to the extent that those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.
 
sanman said:
Big deal - better than dying in a terrorist attack.




The new Terror War is being fought by tactics designed to exploit the US system of law. These guys aren't smart enough to build fighter jets, or submarines, so they're attuning themselves to a different type of expertise, based on the chinks in America's armor. Unless Americans wake up and see the game plan, then the war will be lost.

Based on past events, there will be more terror attacks every few months. How many will have to die before people wake up and smell the coffee? Who among the "civil rights" advocates will support the civil rights of terrorism victims, and how will they take responsibility for having opposed measures that would have saved those lives?
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They hate us for our freedom, so we have to take that freedom away!
 
I am not sure what I am surprised by more Newt saying what CNN is saying he is saying,
or that CNN is still in business.
Anyway I thought it might be worth while to look up the actual quotes, rather than the CNN filtered quotes.
Gingrich: Revive House Un-American Activities Committee | TheHill
"We originally created the House Un-American Activities Committee to go after the Nazis,
We passed several laws in 1938 and 1939 to go after the Nazis,
"We made it illegal to help the Nazis."
We are presently going to have to take similar steps here.
We’re going to take much tougher positions."

"We’re going to ultimately declare war on Islamic supremacists, and we’re going to say,
""If you pledge allegiance to [the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria],
you are a traitor and you’ve lost your citizenship.""
The quotes read a little different, He is referencing the original use of the
House Un-American Activities Committee, and saying we are going to have to take similar steps,
to the 1930's anti Nazi version of the committee.
 
longview said:
I am not sure what I am surprised by more Newt saying what CNN is saying he is saying,
or that CNN is still in business.
Anyway I thought it might be worth while to look up the actual quotes, rather than the CNN filtered quotes.
Gingrich: Revive House Un-American Activities Committee | TheHill
"We originally created the House Un-American Activities Committee to go after the Nazis,
We passed several laws in 1938 and 1939 to go after the Nazis,
"We made it illegal to help the Nazis."
We are presently going to have to take similar steps here.
We’re going to take much tougher positions."

"We’re going to ultimately declare war on Islamic supremacists, and we’re going to say,
""If you pledge allegiance to [the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria],
you are a traitor and you’ve lost your citizenship.""
The quotes read a little different, He is referencing the original use of the
House Un-American Activities Committee, and saying we are going to have to take similar steps,
to the 1930's anti Nazi version of the committee.
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It doesn't help it any more.

You do know we have laws now for funding, aiding and abetting terrorists, right?
 
Paperview said:
It doesn't help it any more.

You do know we have laws now for funding, aiding and abetting terrorists, right?
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I am mostly just clarifying the actual quote, which was not clear in the CNN article.
 
The scary Newt has long been harboring these kinds of thoughts...

[h=1]Gingrich: Free Speech Should Be Curtailed To Fight Terrorism[/h] By JOSH GERSTEIN, Staff Reporter of the Sun | November 29, 2006



A former House speaker, Newt Gingrich, is causing a stir by proposing that free speech may have to be curtailed in order to fight terrorism.


"We need to get ahead of the curve rather than wait until we actually literally lose a city, which I think could literally happen in the next decade if we're unfortunate," Mr. Gingrich said Monday night during a speech in New Hampshire. "We now should be impaneling people to look seriously at a level of supervision that we would never dream of if it weren't for the scale of the threat."


Speaking at an award dinner billed as a tribute to crusaders for the First Amendment, Mr. Gingrich, who is considering a run for the White House in 2008, painted an ominous picture of the dangers facing America."

Gingrich: Free Speech Should Be Curtailed To Fight Terrorism - The New York Sun
 
Captain Adverse said:
That's a double edge sword.

Today it is ISIS/ISIL.

Tomorrow? Some American based "patriotic" organization.

The day after? Anyone who opposes the Party line?

NO, we cannot allow a new McCarthyist witch-hunt. Guilt by innuendo.

All I am saying is that individual rights not be violated absent due process of law.
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Done correctly, such a plan should bring due process into the picture.

Instead of finding a problem and throwing out the whole thing, lets figure out what's good about this, and then use that, coupled with clear definitions, limits and procedures to ensure that it doesn't get abused.
 
Retire Newt...and take Trump with you.

Amazing.

Many months ago, I loathed the idea of yet another Bush running the Reps. Now I would take his establishment boredom over Trump's buffoonery in a second.

America is in a sad state.
 
So. Who is aghast both at this and at Democrats now making the argument that we should be able to strip Constitutional Rights from citizens without proving them guilty of a crime or due process?
 
faithful_servant said:
Done correctly, such a plan should bring due process into the picture.

Instead of finding a problem and throwing out the whole thing, lets figure out what's good about this, and then use that, coupled with clear definitions, limits and procedures to ensure that it doesn't get abused.
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There is no good about this.
 
Kobie said:
I thought Gingrich was a historian. HUAC wasn't created to sniff out Nazis, it was created to sniff out communists.
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It was originally created to find Nazis and Nazi sympathizers. Then it became communists. Then socialists. Then LGBT individuals. Then pretty much anyone McCarthy didn't like.
 
Napoleon said:
It was originally created to find Nazis and Nazi sympathizers. Then it became communists. Then socialists. Then LGBT individuals. Then pretty much anyone McCarthy didn't like.
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Actually...I don't think it was created to find Nazis.

The HUAC was created in 1938 to investigate alleged disloyalty and subversive activities on the part of private citizens, public employees, and those organizations suspected of having Communist ties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee
 
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