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New York's investigation of Trump may be collapsing faster than Trump's brand

Stealers Wheel

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On Jan. 1, a new district attorney, Alvin Bragg, took over the Trump criminal investigation. But just when it seemed like the investigative circle was tightening around Trump, something of a legal bombshell dropped: The two top prosecutors abruptly and simultaneously resigned from the New York district attorney’s office. . . . ​

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Alvin Bragg brought with him a new executive assistant, Susan Hoffinger, whom he announced will take over as the lead on the Trump matter. . . . ​

The district attorney’s office, for its part, has not confirmed speculation that Bragg may be having doubts. A spokesperson for Bragg said the reports that he was not inclined to advance the matter were “not true,” adding that “the investigation remains ongoing and that Ms. Hoffinger will lead the strong team that is in place.”

The natural next question is who is Susan Hoffinger and what qualifies her to take over what The Washington Post described as a 25-person team of prosecutors, paralegals and analysts. Hoffinger joined the Manhattan district attorney’s office in February after 20 years in private practice at a law firm that bears her name, apparently doing criminal/white collar defense work. She does have some prosecutorial experience, having served in the New York DA’s office from 1992 to 2000.

A fair question is whether someone who hasn’t prosecuted a case in 22 years is the right person at the right time to head up one of the most consequential prosecutions in recent New York history.
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Sounds to me like the new prosecutor intends to sandbag the investigation and the prosecution as well. Why else would you put someone in charge who has not prosecuted anyone in over two decades?
 
Stealers Wheel said:
Sounds to me like the new prosecutor intends to sandbag the investigation and the prosecution as well. Why else would you put someone in charge who has not prosecuted anyone in over two decades?
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That was my thought, and that seems to me why the two prosecutors left, because they disagreed with his choices
 
This is odd.......makes no sense. It seems that the DA is reluctant to charge Trump himself. I know there are complicated issues around bringing charges against corporations but seems to me at least the accountant could be charged.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
Sounds to me like the new prosecutor intends to sandbag the investigation and the prosecution as well. Why else would you put someone in charge who has not prosecuted anyone in over two decades?
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Maybe others looked at it, and don't want to touch it.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
Sounds to me like the new prosecutor intends to sandbag the investigation and the prosecution as well. Why else would you put someone in charge who has not prosecuted anyone in over two decades?
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Somebody got paid. That's the only explanation.

This shit cannot stand.
 
Here come the conspiracy theories! 😂
 
This investigation was bogus from the start. That much was obvious. They're trying to nail Trump on the issue of different opinions on the valuation of assets? Extraordinarily weak. They'd be trying to hang Trump on normal business practices. What's the building worth? The Trump organization can give a value on the building, but it's up to a lender to do due diligence and have the property evaluated by an appraiser or to otherwise be satisfied that it's worth it. There is nothing inherently wrong with me valuing my house at 1,000,000 dollars - that's what it is worth to me. I won't sell it for a penny less. Maybe appraisers or Zillow think it's only worth $500,000. So what? Then don't lend me money based on my estimate of $1,000,000..

At bottom, that is what the NYC prosecutors are trying to hang him on. Valuing a building at $X to get a loan from ****ing Deutsche Bank or some other multi-billion dollar conglomerate with teams of underwriters, lawyers, and bankers on the case, because maybe some other valuations determine the building is worth $X minus $Y.

They used that bullshit to subpoena mountains of documents and information, so they could go on a fishing expedition, and if they can't prosecute, it's not because they're dropping the ball - it's because there isn't anything there to prosecute - again.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
This investigation was bogus from the start. That much was obvious. They're trying to nail Trump on the issue of different opinions on the valuation of assets? Extraordinarily weak. They'd be trying to hang Trump on normal business practices. What's the building worth? The Trump organization can give a value on the building, but it's up to a lender to do due diligence and have the property evaluated by an appraiser or to otherwise be satisfied that it's worth it. There is nothing inherently wrong with me valuing my house at 1,000,000 dollars - that's what it is worth to me. I won't sell it for a penny less. Maybe appraisers or Zillow think it's only worth $500,000. So what? Then don't lend me money based on my estimate of $1,000,000..

At bottom, that is what the NYC prosecutors are trying to hang him on. Valuing a building at $X to get a loan from ****ing Deutsche Bank or some other multi-billion dollar conglomerate with teams of underwriters, lawyers, and bankers on the case, because maybe some other valuations determine the building is worth $X minus $Y.

They used that bullshit to subpoena mountains of documents and information, so they could go on a fishing expedition, and if they can't prosecute, it's not because they're dropping the ball - it's because there isn't anything there to prosecute - again.
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Sorry, it is not "normal business practice" to declare the value of a property for the purposes of obtaining a loan and simultaneously declare a lower value to the department of taxation. That is either bank fraud or tax fraud or possibly both. Knowingly making false statements on loan applications and tax forms are both crimes.

I suspect someone got to the new prosecutor and convinced him that it would be much healthier for him and his family if this investigation quietly died.

"Nice house you got there. Be a shame if anything were to happen to it. I smell smoke. Do you smell smoke? Oh well, have a nice day."
 
Lotta crying from the far left-wingers here. Like Russian Collusion, this was another attempt to destroy Trump and failed BIGLY!

Some leftists here must be saying "Daddy, does this mean Trump will run in 2024? I thought he was bad and people on the news said we were supposed to keep hating on him? What do we do now, daddy?"
 
Stealers Wheel said:
Sorry, it is not "normal business practice" to declare the value of a property for the purposes of obtaining a loan and simultaneously declare a lower value to the department of taxation. That is either bank fraud or tax fraud or possibly both. Knowingly making false statements on loan applications and tax forms are both crimes.

I suspect someone got to the new prosecutor and convinced him that it would be much healthier for him and his family if this investigation quietly died.

"Nice house you got there. Be a shame if anything were to happen to it. I smell smoke. Do you smell smoke? Oh well, have a nice day."
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That's not accurate. My house has a value for property tax purposes which is not the same as the fair market value. The appraised value of a property is often different than the fair market value or assessed value.

LOL, you "suspect"? On what basis? Your fertile imagination?
 
Stealers Wheel said:
Sounds to me like the new prosecutor intends to sandbag the investigation and the prosecution as well. Why else would you put someone in charge who has not prosecuted anyone in over two decades?
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Maybe because there is no case, there never was a case and the propagandists who were lying to you since the start had nothing and never will.

Of course, I could be wrong.
 
RAMOSS said:
That was my thought, and that seems to me why the two prosecutors left, because they disagreed with his choices
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Seems to me one of the former guy's cronies got to him. Won't be the first time
 
Credence said:
Seems to me one of the former guy's cronies got to him. Won't be the first time
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Because, of course, the government has no way to address someone coercing or threatening a prosecutor to get them to stop a criminal investigation. LOL.
 
code1211 said:
Maybe because there is no case, there never was a case and the propagandists who were lying to you since the start had nothing and never will.

Of course, I could be wrong.
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These people also believe Trump colluded and some still do. When they are taught by media and their groupthink to hate, it is nigh on impossible to change them.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
Because, of course, the government has no way to address someone coercing or threatening a prosecutor to get them to stop a criminal investigation. LOL.
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You'd be surprised. I am a New Yorker and the former guy has been corrupt all of his adult life and those in government; including law enforcement; enabled him and still do
 
Credence said:
You'd be surprised. I am a New Yorker and the former guy has been corrupt all of his adult life and those in government; including law enforcement; enabled him and still do
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No evidence of any corruption. Occam's razor says they knew this was no case and saved further embarrassment. That happens when you are out to get someone out of pure hatred.
 
Credence said:
You'd be surprised. I am a New Yorker and the former guy has been corrupt all of his adult life and those in government; including law enforcement; enabled him and still do
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Yes, I much prefer Hochul to Cuomo.
 
Taylor said:
Yes, I much prefer Hochul to Cuomo.
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LMBO. I prefer Hochul as well but Cuomo is less worse than the former guy and the allegations against him including allegedly intimidating potential witnesses. I don't think you wanna go there. Not sure what Cuomo has do with this thread though.

Another thread derailed
 
Credence said:
LMBO. I prefer Hochul as well but Cuomo is less worse than the former guy and the allegations against him including allegedly intimidating potential witnesses. I don't think you wanna go there. Not sure what Cuomo has do with this thread though.

Another thread derailed
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You said corrupt former guy in New York - figured you were talking about Cuomo. I agree that it's unlikely that he (or anyone really) is causing prosecutors to step on the brakes. It's most likely because there's not much of a case.
 
Taylor said:
You said corrupt former guy in New York - figured you were talking about Cuomo. I agree that it's unlikely that he (or anyone really) is causing prosecutors to step on the brakes. It's most likely because there's not much of a case.
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LOL Yea -- I don't refer to the former guy by name and being I am from NY can understand the confusion. Sorry about that
 
Paradoxical said:
There was no bribery. They had NO case and abandoned ship to avoid further embarrassment. Deal with it.
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LOL, prosecutors resign over losing cases all the time, right?


It's pretty blatantly obvious what's going on.
 
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