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New York Times: Trump's Bedminster club hired undocumented immigrants, two workers claim

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New York Times: Trump's Bedminster club hired undocumented immigrants, two workers claim

Washington (CNN)While President Donald Trump has pushed hardline immigration policies and vilified undocumented immigrants, his private club in New Jersey has employed people who managers allegedly knew were in the country illegally, The New York Times reported Thursday.

The Times found two women who say they entered the United States unlawfully but were employed at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey.
Victorina Morales, a native of Guatemala, told the newspaper she had crossed into the US illegally in 1999 and was hired at the club in 2013 as a housekeeper using phony documentation.
Another woman, Sandra Diaz, who's from Costa Rica and is now a legal resident of the US, said she was also undocumented when she worked at Bedminster between 2010 and 2013, the Times reported.
"We have tens of thousands of employees across our properties and have very strict hiring practices," Amanda Miller, a spokeswoman for the Trump Organization, said in a statement provided to CNN. "If any employee submitted false documentation in an attempt to circumvent the law, they will be terminated immediately."
The Times noted there is no evidence that Trump or Trump Organization executives knew of the two women's immigration status.
However, the women told the newspaper that at least two supervisors at the club were aware and took steps to help them avoid detection and hold on to their jobs.
Diaz claimed to The Times that "there are many people without papers" and said she had witnessed several others hired though they were also undocumented.
The attorney for the two women accused their supervisor at Bedminster of not only knowing about their undocumented status but also abusing them and threatening to have them deported.
"While working at Donald Trump's estate in Bedminster and interacting with the President and his immediate family, my clients and others were repeatedly subjected to abuse, called racial epithets and threatened with deportation," said Anibal Romero in a statement Thursday....

What fine scum and hypocrites we have for a first family. Zero class.:roll:
 

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What fine scum and hypocrites we have for a first family. Zero class.:roll:

It would be great if some newspaper would investigate all the folks who do the cleaning at the NT Times building at night, or who deliver the newspaper to the rich households in the tri-state area.

Wonder if they would find at least two people dong those jobs?
 

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It would be great if some newspaper would investigate all the folks who do the cleaning at the NT Times building at night, or who deliver the newspaper to the rich households in the tri-state area.

Wonder if they would find at least two people dong those jobs?

Oh I am sure there are illegal immigrants working at the NYT. But not as many who work at trump hotels and resorts.
 

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Oh I am sure there are illegal immigrants working at the NYT. But not as many who work at trump hotels and resorts.

So that means Trump is bad the NYT is good. Got it.
 

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What fine scum and hypocrites we have for a first family. Zero class.:roll:

A business didn't know they were hiring an undocumented immigrant who used falsified papers to get said job... color me surprised.
 

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Oh I am sure there are illegal immigrants working at the NYT. But not as many who work at trump hotels and resorts.

Show us your headcount.

In NYC, domestic workers at major hotels, minor hotels, are all hired directly the NY Hotel Workers Union. Management makes no hiring decisions, but after arbitration with a Union Panel, management can participate in dismissal of employees. Documentation procedural checks are in union hands. Doormen, administrative staff, valets and so on are not maintenance staff, hired by management, preferably trained at one of the Hotel schools.

With the exception of Printing Press equipment maintenance relegated to the Printers and Mechanics Union, part of the AFL-CIO, all cleaning work is accomplished by non unionized subcontracting companies with little or no compliance regulations for documentation.

Building management companies which manage other properties are licensed by the NYS Dept. of State, requiring at least 5 years experience as a working broker. How many of those companies will risk two licenses to save a few bucks in labor costs?

Trump Realty, the cash cow gem of the Trump Group is licensed in NYS, therefore wherever it operates under all names and wholly owned subsidiaries falls under the jurisdiction of the NYS Attorney General's Office. There are no records of labor violations for the Trump Group. The records are open to the public at 1 State Plaza in Albany, and the NYC Register of NYS corporations doing business in NYC, 33 Center Street Manhattan. Don't let the dust get up your nose, it has been known to cause hallucinations.
 

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What fine scum and hypocrites we have for a first family. Zero class.:roll:
From the sourced NYT item:
Ms. Morales has had dealings with Mr. Trump that go back years, and her husband has confirmed that she would on occasion come home jubilant because the club owner had paid her a compliment, or bestowed on her a $50 or sometimes a $100 tip.

To ascertain that she was in fact an employee of the club, The Times reviewed Ms. Morales’s pay stubs and W-2 forms, which list the golf course as her employer. She also made available her Individual Taxpayer Identification, a nine-digit number that is issued by the Internal Revenue Service to foreigners to enable them to file taxes without being permanent residents of the United States. Having a number does not confer eligibility to work.

The Times also examined the documents Ms. Morales presented as proof that she was entitled to work —a permanent resident card, or green card, and a Social Security card, both of which she said she purchased from someone in New Jersey who produced counterfeit documents for immigrants.

The Times ran Ms. Morales’s purported Social Security number through several public records databases and none produced a match, which is often an indication that the number is not valid. The number on the back of the green card that Ms. Morales has on file at the golf course does not correspond to the format of numbers used on most legitimate resident cards. For example, it includes initials that do not match those of any immigration service centers that issue the cards.

That Ms. Morales appeared able to secure employment with what she said were fake documents is not surprising: An estimated eight million unauthorized immigrants are in the labor force, and it is an open secret that many businesses, especially in the service sector, hire them.
So here's an illegal alien, who, like eight million others, has deceived her employer with fraudulently procured forged documents.
 
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From the sourced NYT item:

So here's an illegal alien, who, like eight million others, has deceived her employer with fraudulently procured forged documents.

Indeed....8 million who are at least willing to work...Unlike lazy Americans
 

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What fine scum and hypocrites we have for a first family. Zero class.:roll:

How are they hypocrites? Your own source admitted that there is no evidence that Trump or Trump Organization executives knew of the two women's immigration status.

In most, if not all, large corporations the hiring is usually done by managers with the Execs and owners never knowing who is hired. Surely you know this?

Your attempt to pin this on Trump is pathetic.
 

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How are they hypocrites? Your own source admitted that there is no evidence that Trump or Trump Organization executives knew of the two women's immigration status.

In most, if not all, large corporations the hiring is usually done by managers with the Execs and owners never knowing who is hired. Surely you know this?

Your attempt to pin this on Trump is pathetic.

Your defense of trump and his goons is also pathetic...here is a loud mouth idiot ranting and railing against immigrants, yet the fools working for him hire them...Claiming..."we didn't know??????"
 

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How are they hypocrites? Your own source admitted that there is no evidence that Trump or Trump Organization executives knew of the two women's immigration status.

In most, if not all, large corporations the hiring is usually done by managers with the Execs and owners never knowing who is hired. Surely you know this?

Your attempt to pin this on Trump is pathetic.

Your defense of trump and his goons is also pathetic...here is a loud mouth idiot ranting and railing against immigrants, yet the fools working for him hire them...Claiming..."we didn't know??????"
The Trump Organization has tens of thousands of employees, I doubt Trump was directly involved with hiring each and every one of them. No doubt he has carefully interviewed the top level executives, but in this case we're talking about a simple maid at some resort. Apparently Trump did deal with this maid directly (she cleaned his room while staying at the resort). She says she told him she was from Honduras, but didn't say she told Trump she entered the US illegally and secured employment concealing that fact with forged documents, do you think she told anyone who interviewed her when she applied for the housekeeping job?
 

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The Trump Organization has tens of thousands of employees, I doubt Trump was directly involved with hiring each and every one of them. No doubt he has carefully interviewed the top level executives, but in this case we're talking about a simple maid at some resort. Apparently Trump did deal with this maid directly (she cleaned his room while staying at the resort). She says she told him she was from Honduras, but didn't say she told Trump she entered the US illegally and secured employment concealing that fact with forged documents, do you think she told anyone who interviewed her when she applied for the housekeeping job?

Tape of the job interview:......You legal?...Si Senior....Okay your hired.....Enough said
 

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Tape of the job interview:......You legal?...Si Senior....Okay your hired.....Enough said
You think anyone who answers "Si Senior" should be presumed illegal? Isn't that kinda racist?
 

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You think anyone who answers "Si Senior" should be presumed illegal? Isn't that kinda racist?

No rascit is a loud mouth idiot screaming and hollering about immigrants to a bunch of uneducated white people about building a wall...To keep them out...Yet he still hires them...Now you know
 

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What fine scum and hypocrites we have for a first family. Zero class.

What a disgraceful piece of garbage this newspaper is. They are leaving no stone unturned in their quest to damage our President. Yet, this is something they didn't give a rat's ass about doing in the previous eight years. Gun running, spying on reporters, unmasking and leaking identities of innocent Americans, and on and on... All of no interest to these Marxist fools.
 

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What a disgraceful piece of garbage this newspaper is. They are leaving no stone unturned in their quest to damage our President. Yet, this is something they didn't give a rat's ass about doing in the previous eight years. Gun running, spying on reporters, unmasking and leaking identities of innocent Americans, and on and on... All of no interest to these Marxist fools.

Too Funny...trump hires illegals...You blame the NY Times....
 

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The wrongdoing of underlings was only important when Obama was in office. Shhh!
 

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Too Funny...trump hires illegals...You blame the NY Times....

I suspect that guy would be rejected for Jersey Shore for not being as smart as the rest of the cast. Reading crap like that certainly suggests so.:roll:
 

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No rascit is a loud mouth idiot screaming and hollering about immigrants to a bunch of uneducated white people about building a wall...To keep them out...Yet he still hires them...Now you know

From the article:
The Times noted there is no evidence that Trump or Trump Organization executives knew of the two women's immigration status.

So technically, he didn't "hire them". Care to try again?
 

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From the article:
The Times noted there is no evidence that Trump or Trump Organization executives knew of the two women's immigration status.

So technically, he didn't "hire them". Care to try again?

Maybe you can blame it on Hillary?...Isn't that what you trump loyalists do?
 

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This is a sad attempt at taking political shots at Trump. The hilarious part is the NY Slimes destroys it's own "shocking headline" by pointing out that:
1. the illegals in question used fraudulent docs to gain employment
2. No evidence Trump himself or his org's execs knew of their status
 

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No, it means that Trump is a hypocrite and the NYT isn't.

Can't be a hypocrite if he didn't know of their status in the first place, which is what the article points out in at least 2 instances.
 

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This is a sad attempt at taking political shots at Trump. The hilarious part is the NY Slimes destroys it's own "shocking headline" by pointing out that:
1. the illegals in question used fraudulent docs to gain employment
2. No evidence Trump himself or his org's execs knew of their status

Speaks volumes about the "vetting" process.....trump and his goons are screaming and shouting daily about "immigrants" and "caravans" to whip up the angry base of white bigots...You'd think they be more careful about hiring the very people they demonize
 
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