New Ways to Avoid Getting a Real Job.....

[MMC]

New moneymaking websites like Etsy, Poshmark, TaskRabbit, and Airbnb have created tremendous opportunities: These online marketplaces let you sell, rent, or do freelance work directly for others. But how much money can you really make?

The Sharing Economy

It used to be that if you had stuff to sell – anything from homemade crafts to handyman services to renting out your boat – you’d list it in the classified ads. That’s changing – fast. Just as online classifieds like Craigslist spelled doom for newspaper ads, newer sites and apps threaten Craigslist by providing what Craigslist doesn’t – a community where both buyers and sellers are rated by other users, and where service providers are often background-checked and insured.

But what’s really changed is the efficient sharing of resources: Only use your car 30 minutes a day? Why not rent it out the rest of the time through a site like Getaround? And how often do you really use that Skil Saw? Name your rental price on SnapGoods.com. There are now dozens of websites and apps that efficiently connect what you offer with people who are willing to pay.....snip~

New Ways to Avoid Getting a Real Job


What do you think about this? Do you think it is an appropriate message to be putting out there for these next generations coming round? Think they could have tried to word this out some other way to show ways to make money? Most of the kids nowadays don't want to work and think things should be handed to them freely. To me this could have been put out there on how to make some additional money. Which is a better message to the viewing public.

I know some seniors that run around and picked up wooden furniture pieces and then restore them. Course they aren't trying to make a living off the work, and most like doing that sort of craftsmanship. I have done the same with some wooden tables that use to hold glass. We then replaced with some really cool looking tile pieces.

 

[vvx]

I don't know that it is the kids that don't want to work as much as it is nobody wants to hire the kids. Not the kids specifically, just high unemployment not enough jobs to go around and most of the jobs go to people with more experience than the kids got.

Anyway, the idea of renting your stuff to others for money may work for some. The biggest problem for most is likely how your stuff will get treated by those you let use it. A neighbor's chain saw will cut through anything.

 

[MMC]

I don't know that it is the kids that don't want to work as much as it is nobody wants to hire the kids. Not the kids specifically, just high unemployment not enough jobs to go around and most of the jobs go to people with more experience than the kids got.

Anyway, the idea of renting your stuff to others for money may work for some. The biggest problem for most is likely how your stuff will get treated by those you let use it. A neighbor's chain saw will cut through anything.

Heya VVX. :2wave: We were talking the other day about how jobs have been taken from the kids. Automation plays a big part as well. Like when gas stations went to self serve rather than full serve.

the other issue you point out. Is trust. Which the article points out.

But on virtually all of these sites, the renters have reviews about them, just as do the service providers. This community monitoring theoretically adds a measure of safety to the transactions. And most of the rental sites provide insurance as part of the deal. Still there are issues around legalities and tax reporting (Sidecar calls theirs a “ride-sharing” service rather than a taxi service, and calls payments to the drivers “donations”). These businesses are all in their infancy, and legislatures and licensing agencies are struggling to keep up with the times. But if you’re looking to earn a few extra bucks – or avoid getting a real job – they might work for you.....snip~

Btw, Welcome to Forums of Debate Politics.

 

[MaggieD]

Heya VVX. :2wave: We were talking the other day about how jobs have been taken from the kids. Automation plays a big part as well. Like when gas stations went to self serve rather than full serve.

the other issue you point out. Is trust. Which the article points out.

But on virtually all of these sites, the renters have reviews about them, just as do the service providers. This community monitoring theoretically adds a measure of safety to the transactions. And most of the rental sites provide insurance as part of the deal. Still there are issues around legalities and tax reporting (Sidecar calls theirs a “ride-sharing” service rather than a taxi service, and calls payments to the drivers “donations”). These businesses are all in their infancy, and legislatures and licensing agencies are struggling to keep up with the times. But if you’re looking to earn a few extra bucks – or avoid getting a real job – they might work for you.....snip~

Btw, Welcome to Forums of Debate Politics.

I'll tell ya' one thing. If you're driving people around in your car and charging money? Your liability insurance will NOT pay. There's a specific exclusion for this activity in all policies. My insurance agent told me that. (I've seen some opportunities like that and that's flirting with danger.)

 

[MMC]

I'll tell ya' one thing. If you're driving people around in your car and charging money? Your liability insurance will NOT pay. There's a specific exclusion for this activity in all policies. My insurance agent told me that. (I've seen some opportunities like that and that's flirting with danger.)

Heya Maggie. :2wave: For a while I was running around and grabbing up all the Big Old TV's people were throwing away. All due to them running out for a Flat screen. The big bulky ones. Sold some and we gave some to a couple of churches to give to people for Christmas. Nothing was wrong with them. Other than being old and not a flat screen.

We had a garage sale with like 30 of them out there. People bought them up. Couple came back for a second. Just so their kids could play their games on the big 42 and 48inch screens.

Even at the end the writer threw up the bit on.....or avoid getting a real job. Again, I just don't think this the type of message to put out to the future of our kind.

 

[lizzie]

What do you think about this? Do you think it is an appropriate message to be putting out there for these next generations coming round? Think they could have tried to word this out some other way to show ways to make money? Most of the kids nowadays don't want to work and think things should be handed to them freely. To me this could have been put out there on how to make some additional money. Which is a better message to the viewing public.

I know some seniors that run around and picked up wooden furniture pieces and then restore them. Course they aren't trying to make a living off the work, and most like doing that sort of craftsmanship. I have done the same with some wooden tables that use to hold glass. We then replaced with some really cool looking tile pieces.

I'm not sure it's the right message, but frankly, jobs just aren't as easy to come by these days, as they were when you and I were young. I'd give up my job for some of the alternatives in a heartbeat, if I could financially swing it.

 

[PirateMk1]

New moneymaking websites like Etsy, Poshmark, TaskRabbit, and Airbnb have created tremendous opportunities: These online marketplaces let you sell, rent, or do freelance work directly for others. But how much money can you really make?

The Sharing Economy

It used to be that if you had stuff to sell – anything from homemade crafts to handyman services to renting out your boat – you’d list it in the classified ads. That’s changing – fast. Just as online classifieds like Craigslist spelled doom for newspaper ads, newer sites and apps threaten Craigslist by providing what Craigslist doesn’t – a community where both buyers and sellers are rated by other users, and where service providers are often background-checked and insured.

But what’s really changed is the efficient sharing of resources: Only use your car 30 minutes a day? Why not rent it out the rest of the time through a site like Getaround? And how often do you really use that Skil Saw? Name your rental price on SnapGoods.com. There are now dozens of websites and apps that efficiently connect what you offer with people who are willing to pay.....snip~

New Ways to Avoid Getting a Real Job


What do you think about this? Do you think it is an appropriate message to be putting out there for these next generations coming round? Think they could have tried to word this out some other way to show ways to make money? Most of the kids nowadays don't want to work and think things should be handed to them freely. To me this could have been put out there on how to make some additional money. Which is a better message to the viewing public.

I know some seniors that run around and picked up wooden furniture pieces and then restore them. Course they aren't trying to make a living off the work, and most like doing that sort of craftsmanship. I have done the same with some wooden tables that use to hold glass. We then replaced with some really cool looking tile pieces.

This sort of thing is as old an American as apple pie, and baseball. If your not doing this sort of thing, why aren't you? That's my opinion on the subject. Besides it encourages the entrepenurer spirit

 

[SmokeAndMirrors]

New moneymaking websites like Etsy, Poshmark, TaskRabbit, and Airbnb have created tremendous opportunities: These online marketplaces let you sell, rent, or do freelance work directly for others. But how much money can you really make?

The Sharing Economy

It used to be that if you had stuff to sell – anything from homemade crafts to handyman services to renting out your boat – you’d list it in the classified ads. That’s changing – fast. Just as online classifieds like Craigslist spelled doom for newspaper ads, newer sites and apps threaten Craigslist by providing what Craigslist doesn’t – a community where both buyers and sellers are rated by other users, and where service providers are often background-checked and insured.

But what’s really changed is the efficient sharing of resources: Only use your car 30 minutes a day? Why not rent it out the rest of the time through a site like Getaround? And how often do you really use that Skil Saw? Name your rental price on SnapGoods.com. There are now dozens of websites and apps that efficiently connect what you offer with people who are willing to pay.....snip~

New Ways to Avoid Getting a Real Job


What do you think about this? Do you think it is an appropriate message to be putting out there for these next generations coming round? Think they could have tried to word this out some other way to show ways to make money? Most of the kids nowadays don't want to work and think things should be handed to them freely. To me this could have been put out there on how to make some additional money. Which is a better message to the viewing public.

I know some seniors that run around and picked up wooden furniture pieces and then restore them. Course they aren't trying to make a living off the work, and most like doing that sort of craftsmanship. I have done the same with some wooden tables that use to hold glass. We then replaced with some really cool looking tile pieces.

What is wrong with being self-employed? How is that "not a real job"? What is so great about working under the thumb of somebody else?

I don't understand how it's a "bad message" that people can work for themselves.

 

[MMC]

What is wrong with being self-employed? How is that "not a real job"? What is so great about working under the thumb of somebody else?

I don't understand how it's a "bad message" that people can work for themselves.

Heya SAM. :2wave: Self Employed is working. So nothing is wrong with that. Its the message in their wording. New ways to avoid getting a real Job. Being self employed is a real Job.....correct? Then there is this.....

But if you’re looking to earn a few extra bucks – or avoid getting a real job – they might work for you.....snip~

Notice that wording. Or avoid getting a real job. People who are self employed and starting or running their own business. HAVE a real job.

So again it is the terminology and the Message that was put out there. Not the issue of, if something is a real job or not.

 

[MMC]

This sort of thing is as old an American as apple pie, and baseball. If your not doing this sort of thing, why aren't you? That's my opinion on the subject. Besides it encourages the entrepenurer spirit

Mornin Pirate. :2wave: Yeah.....that's why I did the TV thing there when it was hot. People were just getting rid of perfectly working color TV. Some with Remotes. Some as Counsel TV's, like the Zeniths and Magnovoxs'

When I was working my back bank out by the creek. I would pick up good lumber and cinder blocks and stones too. Stuff people tossed that was all good. Even grabbed up a Pool Ladder with railings and then buried it out back. Now people can walk up a set of stairs from the Bottom level up to a Burm I had built out there.

Course around here plenty of handyman services all started up. Plus people that canvass areas looking for work.

Still I doubt we will see young people out there doing a lot of handywork.

 

[Oftencold]

New moneymaking websites like Etsy, Poshmark, TaskRabbit, and Airbnb have created tremendous opportunities: These online marketplaces let you sell, rent, or do freelance work directly for others. But how much money can you really make?

The Sharing Economy

It used to be that if you had stuff to sell – anything from homemade crafts to handyman services to renting out your boat – you’d list it in the classified ads. That’s changing – fast. Just as online classifieds like Craigslist spelled doom for newspaper ads, newer sites and apps threaten Craigslist by providing what Craigslist doesn’t – a community where both buyers and sellers are rated by other users, and where service providers are often background-checked and insured.

But what’s really changed is the efficient sharing of resources: Only use your car 30 minutes a day? Why not rent it out the rest of the time through a site like Getaround? And how often do you really use that Skil Saw? Name your rental price on SnapGoods.com. There are now dozens of websites and apps that efficiently connect what you offer with people who are willing to pay.....snip~

New Ways to Avoid Getting a Real Job


What do you think about this? Do you think it is an appropriate message to be putting out there for these next generations coming round? Think they could have tried to word this out some other way to show ways to make money? Most of the kids nowadays don't want to work and think things should be handed to them freely. To me this could have been put out there on how to make some additional money. Which is a better message to the viewing public.

I know some seniors that run around and picked up wooden furniture pieces and then restore them. Course they aren't trying to make a living off the work, and most like doing that sort of craftsmanship. I have done the same with some wooden tables that use to hold glass. We then replaced with some really cool looking tile pieces.

I don't care if someone has a traditional job or not, just so that able bodied able minded people in their prime years are generally productive.

This approach, quite naturally, will be targeted by the IRS then taxed, and regulated to destruction.

Who's seen the opening minutes of Time Bandits?

 

[GottaGo]

What do you think about this? Do you think it is an appropriate message to be putting out there for these next generations coming round? Think they could have tried to word this out some other way to show ways to make money? Most of the kids nowadays don't want to work and think things should be handed to them freely. To me this could have been put out there on how to make some additional money. Which is a better message to the viewing public.

I know some seniors that run around and picked up wooden furniture pieces and then restore them. Course they aren't trying to make a living off the work, and most like doing that sort of craftsmanship. I have done the same with some wooden tables that use to hold glass. We then replaced with some really cool looking tile pieces.

I guess it depends on how the individual actually views what they are doing, title of the article aside. If someone is unemployed, and doing whatever they can to make ends meet, helping to support themselves, then I say :thumbs:

If they treat it like a slap-dash, meh when I wanna type thing, then that says a whole lot about the person.

I was raised to give 100% to whatever I do, from scrubbing toilets to a corporate type job. That, unfortunately, seems to be they key to what's lacking in a lot of attitudes today.

 

[MMC]

I don't care if someone has a traditional job or not, just so that able bodied able minded people in their prime years are generally productive.

This approach, quite naturally, will be targeted by the IRS then taxed, and regulated to destruction.

Who's seen the opening minutes of Time Bandits?

Mornin' OC. :2wave: Yeah.....and as Maggie brought up with the car pools. They have jumped on that already with looking into the legalities.

Most of the Seniors I know are all active and doing something to make money. 90% of them can't stand to be doing nothing.

 

[MMC]

I guess it depends on how the individual actually views what they are doing, title of the article aside. If someone is unemployed, and doing whatever they can to make ends meet, helping to support themselves, then I say :thumbs:

If they treat it like a slap-dash, meh when I wanna type thing, then that says a whole lot about the person.

I was raised to give 100% to whatever I do, from scrubbing toilets to a corporate type job. That, unfortunately, seems to be they key to what's lacking in a lot of attitudes today.

Mornin' GG.

I think the message being viewed by those from the younger generations will be looking more upon the aspect of not having to work. To me I think instilling into people that there is no easy way out and that they have to work for what they want in life. Is the way to go.

I don't mind them being shown ways to make money. But then I wouldn't be messaging it as.....hey you don't have to have a real job. Or that you don't have work a real job.

 

[wolfie]

Heya Maggie. :2wave: For a while I was running around and grabbing up all the Big Old TV's people were throwing away. All due to them running out for a Flat screen. The big bulky ones. Sold some and we gave some to a couple of churches to give to people for Christmas. Nothing was wrong with them. Other than being old and not a flat screen.

We had a garage sale with like 30 of them out there. People bought them up. Couple came back for a second. Just so their kids could play their games on the big 42 and 48inch screens.

Even at the end the writer threw up the bit on.....or avoid getting a real job. Again, I just don't think this the type of message to put out to the future of our kind.

When I was out of work for a while..I used to go round thrift shops...garage sales..etc..

I had a good eye, and well...sometimes these places make mistakes!..

Then i would put them in the local auction house..

Hey..I did OK!!!

 

[humbolt]

Mornin' OC. :2wave: Yeah.....and as Maggie brought up with the car pools. They have jumped on that already with looking into the legalities.

Most of the Seniors I know are all active and doing something to make money. 90% of them can't stand to be doing nothing.

And fishing, among other things, is something. If ya don't believe me, check with the fish. I will add that the government is too slow to stop us from doing whatever they don't have their nose into yet. The market is far more nimble than the government. I would also add that barter is becoming more popular as the monetary means of exchange is devalued. If I decide to trade a piece of furniture I've made for a year's supply of beef...

 

[PirateMk1]

I guess it depends on how the individual actually views what they are doing, title of the article aside. If someone is unemployed, and doing whatever they can to make ends meet, helping to support themselves, then I say :thumbs:

If they treat it like a slap-dash, meh when I wanna type thing, then that says a whole lot about the person.

I was raised to give 100% to whatever I do, from scrubbing toilets to a corporate type job. That, unfortunately, seems to be they key to what's lacking in a lot of attitudes today.

I generally find that sort of attitude goes away when someone gets motivated and wants something.

 

[GottaGo]

I generally find that sort of attitude goes away when someone gets motivated and wants something.

Unfortunately, short lived attitudes can be just as bad.

I am acquainted with some people who will take a job (wage paying, with taxes and everything! lol) long enough to pay for their next jump.

What an interesting bunch they are.

 

[MMC]

And fishing, among other things, is something. If ya don't believe me, check with the fish. I will add that the government is too slow to stop us from doing whatever they don't have their nose into yet. The market is far more nimble than the government. I would also add that barter is becoming more popular as the monetary means of exchange is devalued. If I decide to trade a piece of furniture I've made for a year's supply of beef...

Mornin HB. :2wave: You are Right.....more and more people are into bartering today. Plus we have some states that came up with their own money. Like with Michigan and I think the other was Massachusetts. All with different names. One is the Berkshire Dollars. People use them and barter too.

Myself I am not into fishing.....unless it is a necessity. Plus I would cheat and throw a quarter stick of dynamite in the water. :shock: Time is money.....and if not. Then it has to be something that I enjoy.

 

[BmanMcfly]

Unfortunately, short lived attitudes can be just as bad.

I am acquainted with some people who will take a job (wage paying, with taxes and everything! lol) long enough to pay for their next jump.

What an interesting bunch they are.

Sorry... Next "jump"?

I am more annoyed with the sheer volume of people that do work but are exceedingly lazy, missing one or two days per week of work, only to complain about money.

It doesn't even matter how much they make...

 

[MMC]

Unfortunately, short lived attitudes can be just as bad.

I am acquainted with some people who will take a job (wage paying, with taxes and everything! lol) long enough to pay for their next jump.

What an interesting bunch they are.

I had that when I was running the Office Cleaning and Janitorial Business.....since it was part time work. So the doors were always revolving.

Course I got a few Senior couples that were looking for something to do at night. Some accounts were like only an Hour to clean. Not a lot of work. I always paid them decent money. Always showed up for the work too. Wouldn't call off at the last minute. Could be counted on to take care of things in those accounts. Plus they took pride in the work they did.

Sure they got a little bit of money.....but they were happy being out and working and around others.

 

[PirateMk1]

Unfortunately, short lived attitudes can be just as bad.

I am acquainted with some people who will take a job (wage paying, with taxes and everything! lol) long enough to pay for their next jump.

What an interesting bunch they are.

I have found some people are just that way and that's how they want to live. I don't begrudge them that, to each their own.

 

[humbolt]

Mornin HB. :2wave: You are Right.....more and more people are into bartering today. Plus we have some states that came up with their own money. Like with Michigan and I think the other was Massachusetts. All with different names. One is the Berkshire Dollars. People use them and barter too.

Myself I am not into fishing.....unless it is a necessity. Plus I would cheat and throw a quarter stick of dynamite in the water. :shock: Time is money.....and if not. Then it has to be something that I enjoy.

Heh. You'll need a net with the quarter stick routine. I just like being out. Actually catching fish is a bonus I cash in on frequently. Fresh trout and bass are pretty tasty, as long as you know the water. The problem the government has with barter is that there's no tax revenue to be had for them in such a transaction. I have no problem with non-traditional employment as long as it's legal and significant enough to provide a reasonable income. Some imagination is required, but I think that's a good thing. Congress could use a little imagination right around now.

 

[sawyerloggingon]

The headline should have said traditional job not real job. I have had a "real job" all my life and even owned a company and had real employees. Now I am semi retired and loving it. I work when I want and as long as I want doing what I want. I sell fire wood, make and sell lumber and do small logging jobs that people with big equipment and big bills can't bother with. I also am making sheds out of lumber I logged and milled myself so I can undercut the other guys prices and build a nicer shed with clapboard siding instead of the usual plywood. I could work full time doing this stuff if I wanted to and I wish I had started living like this a very long time ago instead of following the traditional route.

 

[GottaGo]

Sorry... Next "jump"?

I am more annoyed with the sheer volume of people that do work but are exceedingly lazy, missing one or two days per week of work, only to complain about money.

It doesn't even matter how much they make...

Jumpers... recreational parachuters (is that a word? lol) at boogies and meets.