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I wanted, actually, to put this in "Breaking News"... I think it's wonderful and fascinating news.
But my guess is that the majority of the (predominantly young, predominantly male) members of this forum will not find it as fascinating or relevant as I do.


Uterus Transplant Would Offer Chance For Women To Bear Children

"Doctors at a New York hospital plan the first uterus transplant to allow women with defective or removed wombs to bear children, news reports said Monday. A cancer specialist, Dr. Giuseppe Del Priore, and gynecologist surgeon, Dr. Jeanetta Stega, of the New York Downtown Hospital, which is part of the New York-Presbyterian Health Care system, revealed steps that would lead to the first uterus transplant. He said it was a natural progression after the successful transplants of limbs and partial facial replacements.

"I believe it's technically possible to do," said Del Priore, the lead physician. He was quoted by the New York Post.

"If this is a passionate desire for a woman who's had surgical removal of a uterus, I would think this would be something she'd really want to pursue," said Julia Rowland, director of the National Cancer Institute's Office of Cancer Survivorship.

Rowland said, however, that the risks should be carefully weighed. Other scientists said the uterus transplant should be done first on animals to see whether they would produce healthy offsprings.

The Post said the news of the first uterus transplant has drawn different views. Thousands of women had become pregnant after receiving kidney, heart and other transplants, and advocates believe a uterus transplant would help women who strongly desire to have children.

News reports said the wombs would come from dead donors - the normal practice to obtain organs - and would be removed after the recipient gives birth to avoid the constant need of anti-rejection drugs.

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But the reports said doctors at the New York Downtown Hospital did a six-month experiment, which showed that wombs could be had from organ donors and they were screening for potential recipients."


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The article goes on to say that the Ethics Committee of the New York hospital that is proposing the surgery has conditionally approved it; some other articles, however, are less encouraging and report that while the surgery is on the horizon, we should not look for it within the next ten years.

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Transplanted organs are dangerous, and require routine administration of anti-rejection meds.
And true, a uterus is not, technically, a vital organ.
You can certainly live without one.
Is it worth the risk?
I think that's up to the recipients to decide.

Corneas are not "vital organs" either, yet cornea transplants have become routine, and have allowed many blind people to see.
Faces aren't vital, yet last year European doctors performed, successfully, the world's first face transplant.
Unlike the above transplants, the donor uterus will not become a permanent part of the recipient's body; it will be removed once she has conceived and given birth.

Anyway, I think it's cool.
I expect the Kristian™ contingent will have all sorts of negative feedback and dire predictions to share; I will refer them to Genesis 30:1, in which Rachel states, "Give me children, or else I die."
Are we really to interpret the Bible's message as being that God approves of concubinage and surrogacy, but would heartily condemn an infertile woman using a dead woman's donated uterus to gestate her own offspring?
 
Personally, I think it is amazing news and I hope that it is proven safe and approved soon.

I'm not sure what else to say about it, however.
 
I dunno, farming organs that are not a necessity to live gives me jitters.
Sounds like a slippery slope waiting to happen...

If yah don't need em to sustain and live, shouldn't want them.
Ethically, it is very greedy and self centered.

Can I have his 14 inch penis? He's dead and don't need it anymore. :roll:
 
Can I have his 14 inch penis? He's dead and don't need it anymore. :roll:

I don't see why not.
Do you?
Can you explain why this would be an inherently negative thing?
 
My only true concern with something like this is the effect of the drugs needed to quell organ rejection.
The other issue, which I'm sure they'll have to work on, is blood supply to a growing fetus from an organ that's not the mother's natural organ. Not every microscopic capillary could be attached, the donated organ is not going to have exact matches re: the blood supply, plus it's from a deceased donor-how much of it will be 100% 'alive'? The ability to stretch over 8-9 months might be an issue there.
The economical considerations: this obviously would be an elective surgery, thus not covered by insurance. Transplants ain't cheap and fertility treatments aren't either. The wait to have a transplant, the cost to do so, etc., would be better spent seeking out infant adoption. I understand there are people who are selfish enough to be against adoption-it's our bloodline or nothing way of thinking, which I have heard from friends trying for a family-but this seems a very risky and very high cost way of going about it.
It's a commendable thought, but not practical and would only be available to the wealthiest.
 
My only true concern with something like this is the effect of the drugs needed to quell organ rejection.
The other issue, which I'm sure they'll have to work on, is blood supply to a growing fetus from an organ that's not the mother's natural organ. Not every microscopic capillary could be attached, the donated organ is not going to have exact matches re: the blood supply, plus it's from a deceased donor-how much of it will be 100% 'alive'? The ability to stretch over 8-9 months might be an issue there.
The economical considerations: this obviously would be an elective surgery, thus not covered by insurance. Transplants ain't cheap and fertility treatments aren't either. The wait to have a transplant, the cost to do so, etc., would be better spent seeking out infant adoption. I understand there are people who are selfish enough to be against adoption-it's our bloodline or nothing way of thinking, which I have heard from friends trying for a family-but this seems a very risky and very high cost way of going about it.
It's a commendable thought, but not practical and would only be available to the wealthiest.



I understand your concerns about the treatment only being available to the privileged... but isn't it usually that way, when it comes to elective procedures? Technology and medicine must still continue to advance, regardless of who does or does not benefit from these advances.
I am surprised by your statements about adoption and the "selfishness" of desiring a biological child.
Certainly adoption is commendable, but I think people have the right to pursue any and every avenue available if they wish to have a biological child instead.
As new avenues open up, people have the right to pursue them, even if they are risky and experimental. It's their bodies. They have the right to weigh their desire for pregnancy against their ideas about what comprises an acceptable risk. They're adults; they have the right to navigate the course of their own lives. It's neither my place nor the government's to make value judgements about the worthiness and validity of their personal decisions, nor to limit their options in an effort to protect them from themselves.
I have no desire to "protect" people from themselves and their own desires by restricting their freedom; not because I wish to see people get hurt, but because I am not qualified to make personal or reproductive decisions for others, and neither is anyone else.
Who am I to tell infertile women that adoption is just as good and they're being selfish by pursuing fertility options?
If I were to do that, I wouldn't be me anymore. I'd be, you know... Felicity, or somebody.
 
If yah don't need em to sustain and live, shouldn't want them.
Ethically, it is very greedy and self centered.

Whatever.
Southern Belle doesn't "need" a cornea transplant, just because she's mostly blind and has been told that she's a candidate for one.
She just started a thread about it; why don't you go on over there and tell her that she's being ethically very greedy and self-centered to consider it.

:kissy: (I'm just messin' with you, Vauge).

I know, really, that you're speaking in a general sense and not about anybody in particular.
But you have to understand that when it comes down to transplant recipients, it is about individuals, each with their own particular set of circumstances.
It's easy for us to sit here and sneer, and say they're just being selfish.
But we have all our body parts. How would we even know what it feel like not to... and then for an opportunity like this to present itself?
How can we judge them?
 
I wanted, actually, to put this in "Breaking News"... I think it's wonderful and fascinating news.
But my guess is that the majority of the (predominantly young, predominantly male) members of this forum will not find it as fascinating or relevant as I do...........
...good news for Transsexuals.....
 
...good news for Transsexuals.....

I figured this would be one of the objections of the Fundie Faction. :roll:
My response: who cares?
We all know it's going to happen eventually.
Will the very foundation of society really crumble if some rich eccentric man someday chooses to have his body modified in an attempt to gestate a fetus?
It's not like this prospect is looming imminently on the horizon, in any event.
 
I think it's going to take a whole lot more then a uterus to get to that step.

Sure, first you have to start with having a brain which is physiologically female, then you have to undergo allot of psycho therapy and meet the usual requirements to be approved for your standard sex change operation. There’s lots of hormone supplements, more therapy, some nip-tuck, more hormones, more therapy....in retrospect, adding functional reproductive organs seems to be a small step, though I'm sure that even 20 some years from now it will still be a difficult step.
 
Sure, first you have to start with having a brain which is physiologically female, then you have to undergo allot of psycho therapy and meet the usual requirements to be approved for your standard sex change operation. There’s lots of hormone supplements, more therapy, some nip-tuck, more hormones, more therapy....in retrospect, adding functional reproductive organs seems to be a small step, though I'm sure that even 20 some years from now it will still be a difficult step.

I don't believe we understand all the nuances of human gestation today. The missing components will prove far more complex then producing facial hair on women and breasts on men.
 
I don't believe we understand all the nuances of human gestation today. The missing components will prove far more complex then producing facial hair on women and breasts on men.

Well there's one way to find them out.....
 
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