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akyron said:How do we get it down here?
robin said:Virtually all of the patents listed there would have been developed whether the probes were manned or not.
It takes more effort & skill & technical innovation to make automated science probes rather than include the enormous cost of homo sapiens bumbling around inside & having to eat their own excrement albeit it processed, or breath their own foul air.akyron said:I disagree. Mostly because they were not developed separate from the space program but within it. When people have a goal technology gets developed to support that goal. I guess its called incentive.
Sarcastic indeed ! Incidently, where did I claim to make any predictions ?akyron said:But since you can predict the future unerringly what are the Texas lotto numbers for Wednesday night ?Thanks.
gravity would do itakyron said:How do we get it down here?
George_Washington said:I think we should absolutely keep putting money into aeronautics and space exploration. There is most likely a vast amount of knowledge to be obtained elsewhere in the Universe. Plus, we might have to relocate to another planet someday, you never know.
UtahBill said:The odds of finding a suitable planet within 1000 light years from us are astronomical, no pun intended. And even if we do find one, there will probably be intelligent life there, and they don't necessarily have to let us emigrate.
Space exploration should be done with unmanned probes and telescopes.
Any intelligent life forms out there that finds one of our probes would probably be smart enough to destroy the probe immediately so we won't know that it found anything. Another possibility, they just might look upon us as a good source of protein to feed their pets!!!!:mrgreen:
Terraforming. It would be a long process but not impossible.UtahBill said:The odds of finding a suitable planet within 1000 light years from us are astronomical, no pun intended. And even if we do find one, there will probably be intelligent life there, and they don't necessarily have to let us emigrate.
Space exploration should be done with unmanned probes and telescopes.
Any intelligent life forms out there that finds one of our probes would probably be smart enough to destroy the probe immediately so we won't know that it found anything. Another possibility, they just might look upon us as a good source of protein to feed their pets!!!!:mrgreen:
scottyz said:It's thing like this that make me wonder why we aren't already doing such things. Asteroids, the Moon and Mars could all be stripped mine without any consequences. There is no ecosystem to damage and no consequences for Earth from doing it. We may find new resources that are not available to us on Earth.
UtahBill said:The odds of finding a suitable planet within 1000 light years from us are astronomical, no pun intended. And even if we do find one, there will probably be intelligent life there, and they don't necessarily have to let us emigrate.
Space exploration should be done with unmanned probes and telescopes.
Any intelligent life forms out there that finds one of our probes would probably be smart enough to destroy the probe immediately so we won't know that it found anything. Another possibility, they just might look upon us as a good source of protein to feed their pets!!!!:mrgreen:
robin said:I'm going to go against my nature now :2razz: & be a proud boastful Englishmen & point out we invented 80% of everything in the world & it was nothing to do with any space programme...... The steam engine, steam turbine, Microwave, radar, MRI, CT, jet engine, 1st programmable computer, electric motor, battery, vacuum cleaner etc etc etc etc.
Remember I'm not anti manned space mission. I find manned missions to be very entertaining, plus there has been the very occasional useful one that has enabled maintenance on the Hubble telescope.
robin said:To think of John Glenn in space to explore the effect of zero gravity on old people :lol:
He must have used his influence to get that little jolly.
Here.robin said:Incidently, where did I claim to make any predictions ?.
An interesting theory but false because they were NOT developed independently.robin said:Virtually all of the patents listed there would have been developed whether the probes were manned or not. .
robin said:Perhaps you could provide a precise list of patents that were dependant soley on manned missions taking place.
akyron said:Here.
An interesting theory but false because they were NOT developed independently.
I think I already did but here are just 3 manned missions that directly resulted in nearly 40 commercial technologies we use everyday.
Apollo
Kidney dialysis and CAT scans.
2 of 14 technologies resulting from the Apollo mission.
International Space station spinoffs
Air purifiers and Fast Cook Ovens
2 of 10 technologies used everyday directly resulting from the (ISS) International Space Station
Space Shuttle
Chemotherapies, Bioreactors, Prosthesis Material
3 of 15 technologies directly resulting from space shuttle missions.
If you breathe, eat, get old, get sick, wear shoes clothing, use money, use any electronics whatsoever, use transportation, then manned space programs affect you to one degree or another. The list goes on and on.
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Inventions from Space
Trajan Octavian Titus said:Wow, you Canadian bastard, you really have no idea about the future of the U.S space program do you? It's going private welcome to plannet starbucks ass hole. Now go slam down some maple syrup and talk to me when you got an army.
George_Washington said:I'm just saying we should still continue to publically fund NASA and encourage aeronautical and cosmological research. I am fully aware of the fact that a suitable planet is thousands of light years away but who knows; someday we might have the technology to go there.
Originally posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
I doubt that any such planet would not harbor a technological intelligence such as ours. Intelligence is hard to find on this planet. Why assume we'll find it elsewhere?
The technique of CT scanning was developed by the British inventor Sir Godfrey Hounsfield, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for his work which was not connected to to space travel. The digital image processing techniques are developed in hospitals & in the very dept in which I work. Also in regard to space, these techniques would have been developed by NASA for satellite image enhancement of earth & other planets using telescopes, regardless of manned missions.akyron said:Here.An interesting theory but false because they were NOT developed independently.
I think I already did but here are just 3 manned missions that directly resulted in nearly 40 commercial technologies we use everyday.
Apollo
Kidney dialysis and CAT scans.
2 of 14 technologies resulting from the Apollo mission.
International Space station spinoffs
Air purifiers and Fast Cook Ovens
2 of 10 technologies used everyday directly resulting from the (ISS) International Space Station
Space Shuttle
Chemotherapies, Bioreactors, Prosthesis Material
3 of 15 technologies directly resulting from space shuttle missions.
If you breathe, eat, get old, get sick, wear shoes clothing, use money, use any electronics whatsoever, use transportation, then manned space programs affect you to one degree or another. The list goes on and on.
More:
Inventions from Space
Tashah said:Can anyone even vaguely remember the last influential Russian contribution to science? I didn't think so.
Lol. I was thinking a bit more contemporary, perhaps the last decade or so. The decline in cutting-edge Russian science mirrors the fall of the Soviet empire and their subsequent exit from a previously invigorating space program.akyron said:
UtahBill said:A pencil would have worked just as well in space, and it is a lot cheaper.:smile:
UtahBill said:The link is a nice list, but has errors. Bar coding was not invented by Nasa. It may have been improved upon, but not likely. :
Tashah said:Lol. I was thinking a bit more contemporary, perhaps the last decade or so. The decline in cutting-edge Russian science mirrors the fall of the Soviet empire and their subsequent exit from a previously invigorating space program.
robin said:The technique of CT scanning was developed by the British inventor Sir Godfrey Hounsfield, who was awarded the Nobel Prize for his work which was not connected to to space travel. .
robin said:The digital image processing techniques are developed in hospitals & in the very dept in which I work. Also in regard to space, these techniques would have been developed by NASA for satellite image enhancement of earth & other planets using telescopes, regardless of manned missions..
robin said:As for air purifiers & fast cook ovens. ..
robin said:The cavity magnetron (microwave oven) was invented by an another Englishman for WWII radar initially.
Air purifiers invented owe their existence to the space station ! LOL
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robin said:May I remind you that without the money spent on manned missions the money would probably have gone anyway to universities instead & useful inventions would still have arisen regardless...
robin said:Nasa claim to have invented cordless 'Power tools' !.
robin said:I just do not accept that the obvious idea of sticking a NiCd battery in a power tool only came about because of manned space missions.
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