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New rules for impeachment procedures

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Republicans allowed democrats to openly and fairly participate in the impeachment proceedings against Clinton in 1998. Democrats in the proceedings against Trump have told the republicans to go to hell of they think the democrats will reciprocate by allowing republicans to participate in their closed door unofficial secret impeachment proceedings against Trump.

Here is a grateful word of thanks from democrat John Conyers to republican Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde in 1998:

"You know as well as I," Conyers told Hyde, "that whatever action this committee takes must be fair, it must be bipartisan, for it to have credibility. The American people deserve no less, and history will judge us by how well we achieve that goal."


Sorry, Mr. Conyers, Adam Schitff cannot allow republicans to participate because his case is being built on inaccurate and dishonest twists of evidence for the purpose of achieving the supreme goal of all democrats leading up to the 2020 election: 'Trump must be impeached before he has the chance to stomp the democrat candidate in the 2020 election.'

Democrats have abandoned bipartisan format of Clinton impeachment
 

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Leftists are immoral, dishonest, and above all, extremely corrupt. It's the New Democrat Socialist Party in action with A. Schitt leading the coup. :mrgreen:
 

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Republicans allowed democrats to openly and fairly participate in the impeachment proceedings against Clinton in 1998.
There was a special prosecutor in the Clinton impeachment who gathered all the facts and they voted based on the report. In this case, there is no special prosecutor. Democrats are just investigating and questioning witnesses. This is the fact-gathering phase. Trump will have his chance to defend himself after that phase.
 

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There was a special prosecutor. They didn’t get the answer they intended so they have to fabricate new charges.
 

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Why are they doing impeachment in the intelligence committee instead of the judiciary? Because their 'whistleblowers' are CIA plants and they don't want the truth to come out. Hence all the so called impeachment inquiry hearings have been behind closed doors.

Mum's the word lol!
 

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With congressional leftist nutjobs keeping everything secret, makes one wonder what are they trying to hide?
 

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Republicans allowed democrats to openly and fairly participate in the impeachment proceedings against Clinton in 1998. Democrats in the proceedings against Trump have told the republicans to go to hell of they think the democrats will reciprocate by allowing republicans to participate in their closed door unofficial secret impeachment proceedings against Trump.

Here is a grateful word of thanks from democrat John Conyers to republican Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde in 1998:

"You know as well as I," Conyers told Hyde, "that whatever action this committee takes must be fair, it must be bipartisan, for it to have credibility. The American people deserve no less, and history will judge us by how well we achieve that goal."


Sorry, Mr. Conyers, Adam Schitff cannot allow republicans to participate because his case is being built on inaccurate and dishonest twists of evidence for the purpose of achieving the supreme goal of all democrats leading up to the 2020 election: 'Trump must be impeached before he has the chance to stomp the democrat candidate in the 2020 election.'

Democrats have abandoned bipartisan format of Clinton impeachment
The crooked Democrats changed the rules to work to their advantage almost a year ago.
Kangaroo type justice, one sided :bs, no transparency or accountability to the public.
The American people should not stand for closed door secrecy.
 

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There was a special prosecutor in the Clinton impeachment who gathered all the facts and they voted based on the report. In this case, there is no special prosecutor. Democrats are just investigating and questioning witnesses. This is the fact-gathering phase. Trump will have his chance to defend himself after that phase.
No special investigator, no crime, no common sense or legal justification. That just about covers it.

kangaroo impeachment.jpg
 

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Republicans allowed democrats to openly and fairly participate in the impeachment proceedings against Clinton in 1998. Democrats in the proceedings against Trump have told the republicans to go to hell of they think the democrats will reciprocate by allowing republicans to participate in their closed door unofficial secret impeachment proceedings against Trump.

Here is a grateful word of thanks from democrat John Conyers to republican Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde in 1998:

"You know as well as I," Conyers told Hyde, "that whatever action this committee takes must be fair, it must be bipartisan, for it to have credibility. The American people deserve no less, and history will judge us by how well we achieve that goal."


Sorry, Mr. Conyers, Adam Schitff cannot allow republicans to participate because his case is being built on inaccurate and dishonest twists of evidence for the purpose of achieving the supreme goal of all democrats leading up to the 2020 election: 'Trump must be impeached before he has the chance to stomp the democrat candidate in the 2020 election.'

Democrats have abandoned bipartisan format of Clinton impeachment
From your cited report...
"Democrats are holding hearings behind closed doors and have so far provided Republicans with little more than the right to question witnesses who show up in a secure hearing room in the basement of the U.S. Capitol."

What do you think should happen and isn't? Do you think the press should be present during every stage of an investigation? Because that's what this is- an investigation. When (and if) it becomes an impeachment proceding you can rest assured that every 'i' will be dotted and every 't' crossed.
 

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So what, now you're upset that there isn't a special prosecutor? You weren't happy when there was one
I get the feeling that you have no ideals except "Trump is our God."
 

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Why are they doing impeachment in the intelligence committee instead of the judiciary? Because their 'whistleblowers' are CIA plants and they don't want the truth to come out. Hence all the so called impeachment inquiry hearings have been behind closed doors.

Mum's the word lol!
It's an investigation, and Republicans have the right to question witnesses. What do you think should be happening?
 

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Republicans allowed democrats to openly and fairly participate in the impeachment proceedings against Clinton in 1998. Democrats in the proceedings against Trump have told the republicans to go to hell of they think the democrats will reciprocate by allowing republicans to participate in their closed door unofficial secret impeachment proceedings against Trump.

Here is a grateful word of thanks from democrat John Conyers to republican Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde in 1998:

"You know as well as I," Conyers told Hyde, "that whatever action this committee takes must be fair, it must be bipartisan, for it to have credibility. The American people deserve no less, and history will judge us by how well we achieve that goal."


Sorry, Mr. Conyers, Adam Schitff cannot allow republicans to participate because his case is being built on inaccurate and dishonest twists of evidence for the purpose of achieving the supreme goal of all democrats leading up to the 2020 election: 'Trump must be impeached before he has the chance to stomp the democrat candidate in the 2020 election.'

Democrats have abandoned bipartisan format of Clinton impeachment
Might I suggest not to lose so many elections then? That way you can make the rule changes like you did when you guys were in charge.
 
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There was a special prosecutor. They didn’t get the answer they intended so they have to fabricate new charges.
If you mean Mueller, his investigation didn't cover the area that triggered the more recent inquiry.
 

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It's an investigation, and Republicans have the right to question witnesses. What do you think should be happening?
Behind closed doors the whole screwy investigation. Not the image you like to see if you believe democracy thrives in the light.
 

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The crooked Democrats changed the rules to work to their advantage almost a year ago.
Kangaroo type justice, one sided :bs, no transparency or accountability to the public.
The American people should not stand for closed door secrecy.
Corruption knows no bounds.
 

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Republicans allowed democrats to openly and fairly participate in the impeachment proceedings against Clinton in 1998. Democrats in the proceedings against Trump have told the republicans to go to hell of they think the democrats will reciprocate by allowing republicans to participate in their closed door unofficial secret impeachment proceedings against Trump.

Here is a grateful word of thanks from democrat John Conyers to republican Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde in 1998:

"You know as well as I," Conyers told Hyde, "that whatever action this committee takes must be fair, it must be bipartisan, for it to have credibility. The American people deserve no less, and history will judge us by how well we achieve that goal."


Sorry, Mr. Conyers, Adam Schitff cannot allow republicans to participate because his case is being built on inaccurate and dishonest twists of evidence for the purpose of achieving the supreme goal of all democrats leading up to the 2020 election: 'Trump must be impeached before he has the chance to stomp the democrat candidate in the 2020 election.'

Democrats have abandoned bipartisan format of Clinton impeachment
News Flash!! Republicans DO participate in these hearings. This entire thread only goes to prove how clueless you are regarding these impeachment hearings.
 

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Behind closed doors the whole screwy investigation. Not the image you like to see if you believe democracy thrives in the light.
It's not a democratic process, It's an investigation. Investigations are always done in secrecy. How else can you protect the people who are investigated and found guiltless? Do you think the news media should be in on all the steps in the investigation? The report says Republicans question witnesses but you don't see them making it public.
I don't see what you think should be done better.
 

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News Flash!! Republicans DO participate in these hearings. This entire thread only goes to prove how clueless you are regarding these impeachment hearings.
Apparently he didn't read his own cited report.

"Democrats are holding hearings behind closed doors and have so far provided Republicans with little more than the right to question witnesses who show up in a secure hearing room in the basement of the U.S. Capitol."

Hard to guess what they want. Maybe they think Fox News should be present when witnesses are questioned.
 

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It's not a democratic process, It's an investigation. Investigations are always done in secrecy. How else can you protect the people who are investigated and found guiltless? Do you think the news media should be in on all the steps in the investigation? The report says Republicans question witnesses but you don't see them making it public.
I don't see what you think should be done better.
I see then it's a not a democratic process. At least not when capital 'D' Democrats are running it anyway.
 

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News Flash!! Republicans DO participate in these hearings. This entire thread only goes to prove how clueless you are regarding these impeachment hearings.
Sure they do, and nobody said that they didn't, but the Republicans are bound by the rules of the Democrats that they set after they won the House in 2018.
 

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Republicans allowed democrats to openly and fairly participate in the impeachment proceedings against Clinton in 1998. Democrats in the proceedings against Trump have told the republicans to go to hell of they think the democrats will reciprocate by allowing republicans to participate in their closed door unofficial secret impeachment proceedings against Trump.

Here is a grateful word of thanks from democrat John Conyers to republican Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde in 1998:

"You know as well as I," Conyers told Hyde, "that whatever action this committee takes must be fair, it must be bipartisan, for it to have credibility. The American people deserve no less, and history will judge us by how well we achieve that goal."


Sorry, Mr. Conyers, Adam Schitff cannot allow republicans to participate because his case is being built on inaccurate and dishonest twists of evidence for the purpose of achieving the supreme goal of all democrats leading up to the 2020 election: 'Trump must be impeached before he has the chance to stomp the democrat candidate in the 2020 election.'

Democrats have abandoned bipartisan format of Clinton impeachment
Wake up. That was 1998. Republicans are participating in closed door committee meetings to investigate Presidential wrongdoing. They have equal access to these witnesses, equal time to question and cross examine them. What they want is input into who gets subpoenaed just like the 'old days' you just referred to.

You need to talk to John Boehmer and Trey Gowdy and Chaffetz of the Benghazi Committee and who changed the rules in 2015 when the republicans regained their majority so that REPUBLICAN committee chairs could ram through subpoenas to get testimony on the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton without any consultation with the minority Dems. I bring your attention to the following story from 2015. Dems blast House GOP subpoena rules change - POLITICO

"“This year House Republicans are changing the rules to give some chairmen unfettered authority to issue subpoenas unilaterally, adopting an abusive model embraced only by Senator Joe McCarthy, former Rep. Dan Burton, and Rep. Darrell Issa,” the lawmakers wrote. “To their credit, some well-functioning committees, such as the Committees on Appropriations, Armed Services, Intelligence, and Veterans Affairs, did not expand subpoena power for their chairmen.”
At the time, Republican defended the rule change as necessary to effectively investigate the Obama administration"



I bring your attention to this as well which takes us beyond 2015. What Powers Does a Formal Impeachment Inquiry Give the House? - Lawfare

"In 2015, the House gave four committees (Energy and Commerce; Financial Services; Science, Space, and Technology; and Ways and Means) the ability to conduct staff depositions; this power was initially granted for the first session of the Congress only but was later extended to the second session. Under subsequent rules issued by the House Committee on Rules for the conduct of such depositions, “at least one member of the committee shall be present … unless the witness to be deposed agrees in writing to waive this requirement.” In 2017, the rule permitting staff depositions was extended to cover almost all standing committees, and the member attendance requirement was modified such that it did not apply if the committee authorized the staff deposition to take place when the House was not in session."


Every single one of these changes happened while Republicans held the gavel. They were warned that if they threw away decades of bipartisan precedent it might come back to haunt them.
 
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Sure they do, and nobody said that they didn't, but the Republicans are bound by the rules of the Democrats that they set after they won the House in 2018.
Too damned bad, that's what they get for being the party of Trump, it all turned on their party by changing the House. Democrats control the house and subsequently control the rules of impeachment hearings. As Mick Mulvaney said "deal with it.".
 

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Too damned bad, that's what they get for being the party of Trump, it all turned on their party by changing the House. Democrats control the house and subsequently control the rules of impeachment hearings. As Mick Mulvaney said "deal with it.".
What's too damned bad is that you are incapable of explaining why the Democrats needed to change the impeachment rules to their benefit?
 
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