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New Reuters poll: Trump back in striking distance

Re: Reuters poll: Trump back in striking distance

The best we can hope for regardless of which one is elected: The new POTUS will suffer a health problem so severe that the VP will take over.

For a conservative like me who takes the long view, Trump will crowd out true conservatism out of the GOP. Like a weed, as one poster referred. I want Trump to lose and Trumpism pushed out of the GOP.
 
actually Al Gore's so called popular vote lead was within the margin of error, add the overseas military votes instead of just Florida and that lead is 0.

Even so, it means that winning the popular vote nationwide is meaningless. The Presidency is decided by who wins certain states. If Trump loses those states, he doesn't win the election.
 
Re: Reuters poll: Trump back in striking distance

For a conservative like me who takes the long view, Trump will crowd out true conservatism out of the GOP. Like a weed, as one poster referred. I want Trump to lose and Trumpism pushed out of the GOP.

He supports Limited power Govt and a free market economy and that is all that counts. Making the GOP more Libertarian is the best thing that can happen to the party. If gets in and economically governs like Reagan (and there is no reason to believe he wont) our economy will skyrocket and it will be the end of Progressive Liberal Socialism in America.
 
Re: Reuters poll: Trump back in striking distance

No, Trump will be a successful President like he has been at everything else. There is nothing but garbage in the Dem side including and especially Obama.

Trump will most likely not be a president at all. All indications are that the other liberal Democrat will win.


Which may be a success for the Donald. I'm not convinced that the real goal of the conman isn't to get her elected and see how much damage can be done to the Republican Party.
 
Pat Caddell, who as you might know was a Democrat pollster and now is a frequent guest on FOX and expresses a dislike for Hillary - either for FOX money or whatever reason - said regarding Reuters allocation of undecided voters ...

“Sometimes, they are hiding. That happens. Particularly in the past, or in racially-sensitive cases.”

“On July 25, they originally reported: Trump 40.3 percent and Clinton 37.2 percent, which was a Trump margin of 2.8,” he said. “They have recalculated that now -- which I have never heard of -- they changed that data, to be: Clinton 40.9 and Trump 38.4, which is a 2.5 margin for Clinton.”

“Now look at July 26,” he said. “On July 26 they had Trump at 41.5 percent and Hillary at 36.3. That was a 5.2 Trump margin. Then, in the new calculation, they claim that Clinton was 41.1 percent, Trump was 37.5, and the margin was 3.6 for Clinton. Same poll. Two different results. Recalculated, after you’ve announced the other results.”

“What you get is an 8.8 percentage point margin change, almost nine points swinging from one candidate, based on some phony, some bizarre allocation theory that you claim you know where these people are or you are just leaving them out,” ... “I actually believe they are allocating them because they are claiming they are really Clinton voters and they are using something to move them to Clinton.”[/I]


Unfortunately what this all comes down to is whoda****yagonnabelieve.
 
Pat Caddell, who as you might know was a Democrat pollster and now is a frequent guest on FOX and expresses a dislike for Hillary - either for FOX money or whatever reason - said regarding Reuters allocation of undecided voters ...

“Sometimes, they are hiding. That happens. Particularly in the past, or in racially-sensitive cases.”

“On July 25, they originally reported: Trump 40.3 percent and Clinton 37.2 percent, which was a Trump margin of 2.8,” he said. “They have recalculated that now -- which I have never heard of -- they changed that data, to be: Clinton 40.9 and Trump 38.4, which is a 2.5 margin for Clinton.”

“Now look at July 26,” he said. “On July 26 they had Trump at 41.5 percent and Hillary at 36.3. That was a 5.2 Trump margin. Then, in the new calculation, they claim that Clinton was 41.1 percent, Trump was 37.5, and the margin was 3.6 for Clinton. Same poll. Two different results. Recalculated, after you’ve announced the other results.”

“What you get is an 8.8 percentage point margin change, almost nine points swinging from one candidate, based on some phony, some bizarre allocation theory that you claim you know where these people are or you are just leaving them out,” ... “I actually believe they are allocating them because they are claiming they are really Clinton voters and they are using something to move them to Clinton.”[/I]


Unfortunately what this all comes down to is whoda****yagonnabelieve.

No kidding. I realize the electorate is fickle, but this level of volatility is just not believable. It seems to me that the pollsters are making an excellent case that they're hopelessly ****ed up - improbably partisan and stupid enough to believe the electorate buys into it.
 
I tell it like I see it.If you don't like what I say ignore my posts.




"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers

Well, I'll wait til the election plays out if that's ok with you....:roll:
 
Nationwide polls don't mean anything in Presidential politics. Al Gore won the nationwide popular vote, but lost the election because of the electoral system.

And off subject you go.
 
No kidding. I realize the electorate is fickle, but this level of volatility is just not believable. It seems to me that the pollsters are making an excellent case that they're hopelessly ****ed up - improbably partisan and stupid enough to believe the electorate buys into it.

Maybe they think exposure to 20 years of "flexible" climate data would inure the folks to that kind of thing.
 
A Centrist never goes against the extreme right.:roll:

No, but what you characterize and "the extreme" anything clearly is measured against your own extremism so, yeah....the credibility is lacking....
 
Re: Reuters poll: Trump back in striking distance

He supports Limited power Govt and a free market economy and that is all that counts. Making the GOP more Libertarian is the best thing that can happen to the party. If gets in and economically governs like Reagan (and there is no reason to believe he wont) our economy will skyrocket and it will be the end of Progressive Liberal Socialism in America.

 
I totally agree with everything you said. There is also the possibility of the pre-election surprises. Clinton and Trump change places. Every week it changes from Clinton's election to lose to Trump's election to lose and then back to Clinton's election to lose. I can't figure who wants to lose the most. Maybe it just comes down to the party that is the most pissed off.

Good point. Trump doesn't want to be President, he only wants have been elected President. Hillary really, really doesn't want be elected, she just wants to be President. Both are horrible choices for the nation, two of the worst choices possible. Both have serious character flaws. Trump can't shut up and Clinton would rather not talk to the public. Trump says whatever runs through his brain and Hillary only talks about Trump. Trump sticks with rediculous ideas and Hillary changes her positions daily. Trump is crazy as hell. Hillary cannot be trusted and can't be honest long enough to disprove everyone's distrust. Either candidate will be bad for the nation and the world. She is so god awful that even the press can't make Clinton look worthy. Trump is a train wreck.
 
Good point. Trump doesn't want to be President, he only wants have been elected President. Hillary really, really doesn't want be elected, she just wants to be President. Both are horrible choices for the nation, two of the worst choices possible. Both have serious character flaws. Trump can't shut up and Clinton would rather not talk to the public. Trump says whatever runs through his brain and Hillary only talks about Trump. Trump sticks with rediculous ideas and Hillary changes her positions daily. Trump is crazy as hell. Hillary cannot be trusted and can't be honest long enough to disprove everyone's distrust. Either candidate will be bad for the nation and the world. She is so god awful that even the press can't make Clinton look worthy. Trump is a train wreck.

If you were a neighbor I would invite you over to sit under a tree and polish off a bottle of good whiskey. We could solve the world's problems.
 
If you were a neighbor I would invite you over to sit under a tree and polish off a bottle of good whiskey. We could solve the world's problems.

I'm just one state south of you. I'll be there in 5 hours. ;)
 
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This is what, like the fourth thread on this one poll -- cons be running to the "Start New Thread" button cause they saw one poll that may just gie them hope - after the pummeling they've been getting.

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Re: Reuters poll: Trump back in striking distance

This is what, like the fourth thread on this one poll -- cons be running to the "Start New Thread" button cause they saw one poll that may just gie them hope - after the pummeling they've been getting.

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Well, there may be some truth to that, however, there is still a long way to go until Nov.....Remember that....;)
 
Hillary Clinton set up her server the way she did, with the sole intention of avoiding Congressional Oversight. The President can pick his Cabinet, but Congress has Oversight. By avoiding Congress, she avoided being held accountable to the people. A person like that is far more dangerous than someone who occasionaly makes an ass of himself.
A person like that can not be trusted with power. Period.

Quoted for truth. A truth that many seem to be intent on ignoring.
 
Re: Reuters poll: Trump back in striking distance

So, do you believe that "Progressive Liberal Socialism in America" is irreversible?

Of course not, but it helps to know what Progressive Liberal Socialism is. On that note, T-Rump doesn't have a clue. The best hope is for Ted Cruz to reassemble the GOP after being burned down by Trumpism.
 
Well, I'll wait til the election plays out if that's ok with you...
.:roll:



If you want to follow Trump off of the cliff that's OK with me.

Just don't say that you weren't warned.

:lol:

Trumps chances are somewhere between slim and none.
 
Re: Reuters poll: Trump back in striking distance

Of course not, but it helps to know what Progressive Liberal Socialism is. On that note, T-Rump doesn't have a clue. The best hope is for Ted Cruz to reassemble the GOP after being burned down by Trumpism.

Contrast "Progressive Liberal Socialism", whatever the hell that is, with neoliberalism.

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And whatever you might want in government Ted Cruz is not only not the answer, he's not electable to a national office.
 
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