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New Police Audio Released From Kenosha Challenges Original Story

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More facts come out on Jacob Blake shooting by cops

 

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The thing is: there were three police officers there. Three men could've wrestled him down, put the cuffs on him and thrown him in the back of the squad car.

The shooting victim is not a big man. He's average sized.
 

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The thing is: there were three police officers there. Three men could've wrestled him down, put the cuffs on him and thrown him in the back of the squad car.

The shooting victim is not a big man. He's average sized.

Forget it, the OP has two goals we have to hear about on repeat.

1. Devalue Jacob Blake by any means possible.
2. Justify the police crippling an unarmed black guy for life.
 

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Forget it, the OP has two goals we have to hear about on repeat.

1. Devalue Jacob Blake by any means possible.
2. Justify the police crippling an unarmed black guy for life.

True, the officer could have shot Blake's kids as well and some would defend his actions.

Can we have a rational discussion on this that lies somewhere between "defund the police" and "everyone from Rodney King to Jacob Blake had it coming"?
 

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True, the officer could have shot Blake's kids as well and some would defend his actions.

Can we have a rational discussion on this that lies somewhere between "defund the police" and "everyone from Rodney King to Jacob Blake had it coming"?

We are rapidly coming to "Don't do anything, let them go if they resist."
 

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Well, again, the media doing it's part to divide and conquer all for the sake of ratings and the almighty dollar.

And the politicians riding the issue like a surfer on a wave.

All the sensationalism and the voice tone fear tactics from this video put aside, even without hearing this kind of propaganda, a LOT of folks who actually saw the video, heard the narratives and learned the context, pretty much formulated the same view in this video, albeit not as dramatic as presented.
 
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Forget it, the OP has two goals we have to hear about on repeat.

1. Devalue Jacob Blake by any means possible.
2. Justify the police crippling an unarmed black guy for life.

He was armed with a knife. He assaulted the officers. He defied the orders of police to drop the knife and get on the ground. They tried using a taser but it was ineffective. This is a completely justified shooting.
 

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He was armed with a knife.

This knife was in his hand and was an immediate threat to those officers? (And of course you have evidence of this knife and him trying to attack these officers do you?)
 

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We are rapidly coming to "Don't do anything, let them go if they resist."

If the cops can't shoot black people for not following every command, they can't do anything at all. Trumpist "thought".
 

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This knife was in his hand and was an immediate threat to those officers?
Yes, as the video shows.

(And of course you have evidence of this knife and him trying to attack these officers do you?)
Yes, the video.
 

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We are rapidly coming to "Don't do anything, let them go if they resist."

And yet the bodies keep piling up. Seems like some police, albeit a small minority, didn’t get the memo.
 

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Yes, as the video shows.

Yes, the video.

Which video shows that Jacob Blake grabbed a knife and attacked those officers? Post is here please.
 

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He was armed with a knife. He assaulted the officers. He defied the orders of police to drop the knife and get on the ground. They tried using a taser but it was ineffective. This is a completely justified shooting.

Wait, so you're saying he had the knife on him and during that whole ordeal of wrestling him to the ground and trying to handcuff and taser him and grabbing his t-shirt and shooting him in the back...and he didn't try to stab them in self defense even once? Wow.
 

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What if....

The disproportionate number of violent crimes. ie: car jackings, drive-by's, rapes, murders, sexual assaults, that are committed in African communities stopped?

What if the local news channel didn't have to report the almost daily shootings happening in our African American neighborhoods or the occasional headline about a toddler that was caught and killed in the cross-fire of rival gangs?

What if those 13-14 year old young African-American males, out joyriding in a stolen car chose to pull over, rather than to run from the cops, running a red light killing an elderly couple on their way home from BINGO?

What if people would stop resisting arrest?

You guys think this might help bring some of the cop shootings down? Perhaps it might calm people's fears from all walks of life?

Are we even allowed to discuss these matters?
 
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The thing is: there were three police officers there. Three men could've wrestled him down, put the cuffs on him and thrown him in the back of the squad car.

The shooting victim is not a big man. He's average sized.

The criminal that got shot you mean.
 

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Which video shows that Jacob Blake grabbed a knife and attacked those officers? Post is here please.

It’s been posted in dozens of threads. You’ve seen it. You’ve seen the knife in his hand, and you’ve heard the officers ordering him to drop it. Completely justified shooting. Sorry.
 

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And yet the bodies keep piling up. Seems like some police, albeit a small minority, didn’t get the memo.

We keep reminding you, crooks shot in Democrats cities.
 

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Wait, so you're saying he had the knife on him and during that whole ordeal of wrestling him to the ground and trying to handcuff and taser him and grabbing his t-shirt and shooting him in the back...and he didn't try to stab them in self defense even once? Wow.

It’s all right there on video. We see the knife. We hear police ordering him to drop it. I’m sorry if this is inconvenient for your narrative. It’s just reality.
 

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It’s been posted in dozens of threads. You’ve seen it. You’ve seen the knife in his hand, and you’ve heard the officers ordering him to drop it. Completely justified shooting. Sorry.

Nope, sorry.
 

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The thing is: there were three police officers there. Three men could've wrestled him down, put the cuffs on him and thrown him in the back of the squad car.

The shooting victim is not a big man. He's average sized.

That many cops tried to hold Floyd down to and do you recall how he died? Resisting arrest is still a crime.
 

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Forget it, the OP has two goals we have to hear about on repeat.

1. Devalue Jacob Blake by any means possible.
2. Justify the police crippling an unarmed black guy for life.

That was not ever on my mind. I note it is however on your mind.
 

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That was not ever on my mind. I note it is however on your mind.

Project all you need to, this has been a recurring theme with you and it is asinine for you to try to run away from it now.
 

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Forget it, the OP has two goals we have to hear about on repeat.

1. Devalue Jacob Blake by any means possible.
2. Justify the police crippling an unarmed black guy for life.

Jacob Blake devalued himself when he sexually assaulted his girlfriend at least twice (he pulled a Trump and grabbed her by the *****), attempted to steal her vehicle, placed his children at risk and intentionally violated a restraining order ... all before law enforcement arrived.

Blake also resisted arrest, was tased twice, broke away and decided to do something with/in the stolen vehicle.
 

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Jacob Blake devalued himself when he sexually assaulted his girlfriend at least twice (he pulled a Trump and grabbed her by the *****), attempted to steal her vehicle, placed his children at risk and intentionally violated a restraining order ... all before law enforcement arrived.

Blake also resisted arrest, was tased twice, broke away and decided to do something with/in the stolen vehicle.

I rest my case.
 

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It’s all right there on video. We see the knife. We hear police ordering him to drop it. I’m sorry if this is inconvenient for your narrative. It’s just reality.

It's hard to tell in the video what he's carrying, it could be a knife...or it could be sunglasses or a set of keys...but none of the witnesses saw him carrying or brandishing a knife....and the audio is indiscernible from all the bystanders yelling. I'm sorry but the reality is that until there is more information your narrative is just unsubstantiated speculation. How inconvenient for you.

Fact check: Jacob Blake didn't 'brandish' knife in Kenosha shooting
 
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