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http://politics.guardian.co.uk/toryleader/story/0,16473,1661798,00.html

So what do you think of cameroons first pmq? I think he is being very crafy by showing suporrt for blairs education reforms to wind up his backbenchers thus messing up the labour party further. Makes the prospect of a spilt more likely i guess. Lots of people are on about a concervative revial but that seams a bit unlikely to me as most seam completely put off the party after last time they where in power. The concervatives are less popular than the lib-dems among under 30s so i imagine that [unless something unexpected happens or cameroon is amazely good at drumming up concervative suport] ] There suport is going to die out [literally] what du think?
 

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I think of the two choices he was the best; the one most likely to be able to pull voters off of Labour and the Lib Dems.

Like you say i think the point of agreeing with Blair was to split the Labour party, but my politics teacher reckoned, and I'm tempted to agree, that it could blow up in his face.

In terms of his first PMQ's, I hated it. The thing is, when poor Davie thought he was being mature in ending 'punch and judy' politics he failed to realise the punch and judy aspect of British politics is the only thing that makes it interesting, we have enough of a problem with turnout WITH the fights over the table, never mind without it.

Well, at least good ol' Dennis Skinner will always be around to spice it up...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4509994.stm
 
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Plain old me said:
I think of the two choices he was the best; the one most likely to be able to pull voters off of Labour and the Lib Dems.

Like you say i think the point of agreeing with Blair was to split the Labour party, but my politics teacher reckoned, and I'm tempted to agree, that it could blow up in his face.

In terms of his first PMQ's, I hated it. The thing is, when poor Davie thought he was being mature in ending 'punch and judy' politics he failed to realise the punch and judy aspect of British politics is the only thing that makes it interesting, we have enough of a problem with turnout WITH the fights over the table, never mind without it.

Well, at least good ol' Dennis Skinner will always be around to spice it up...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4509994.stm
How could it blow up in his face? I thought getting rid of tony blairs monopoly on left-wing politics would be a bad thing for cameroon as less left-leaning people would have to begrudgingly suporrt him [e.g the whole "nosepeg" thing in the guardian during the election] or wasnt that what you meant? I think a split would be a good thing for the left. If you look at the socialst campain group of mps in the labour party they have a completely different agenda from blair and rarely vote with him. The bloke who got chucked out the party conference is a good example of that as well. Surely it would be better for them to leave the party. I hope cameroon isnt to good anyway
 

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dammit the concervatives are ahead in the polls, seams he was
 

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i think it'll blow up in his face because in trying to destabalise Labour by highlighting how right wing Blair's become to Labour's left, he'll only anger the right in his own party, but this is pure guesswork, so we'll have to see...

hmm, clearly Camerone was the right choice, but this could just be somewhat of a honeymoon, when he gets some real policies going we'll see what the people think...
 

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I don't know about Cameron, it seems its just the old Tory crap with a younger , brighter face on it. Every new leader says they are going to end Punch and Judy politics but in the end they always revert to it.

Unless Cameron really screws this up, this is the Tories best chance to get into power. I cannot see the Lib Dems gaining any seats from the tories in 2009 now :( , but who knows. Unless Brown reverts to the old Labour, I suspect a few Labour seats will go to the Lib Dems. But bah its too early to think about the next election.

But in saying that Brown should be worried very worried. The Tories have found someone they actually like to lead them, instead of voting someone because they hate the other guy.
Blair seems hell bent in pushing every reform to secure his fledging lecacy no matter the cost to his own party. Brown could end up in control of a fragmented party, the Blairites and the Brownites.

It seems British politics is getting ruled more and more about personalities than policies.
 
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