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Just because I don't embrace all things homosexual as being sunshine and lollipops does not make my stance stupid or ignorant.
Black and white thinking. It's either fully embrace or outright reject with you, isn't?
I was referring to your comment, not your position. From what I could tell, nobody was suggesting you had to "embrace all things homosexual". And furthermore, I did not say that all conservatives are gay haters. Your choice of wording indicates an either/or thinking pattern. That doesn't do you any favors when trying to have a discussion with someone.
Just because I don't embrace all things homosexual as being sunshine and lollipops does not make my stance stupid or ignorant.
Coming from you, that's funny.
No one said you had to embrace anything to quit with the ignorant and stupid things you say.
How so? I've stated in the past that I hate many things that have to do with the gay culture.
I could give a flying **** less what you have had to say about anything to be honest.
You attacked my stance as black and white, no back up, no example of how so, just bam.
So anything that you disagree with is stupid or ignorant. Got it.
So what was so stupid and ignorant about my statement? Other then you didn't like what was said?
I could give a flying **** less what you have had to say about anything to be honest.
Then why the **** are you even bothering to have a conversation with anyone on a message board. You'd be better served to go yammer out your ramblings on a blog where no one can challenge your warped perceptions.
As I said, I was referring to your comment, not your position.
No, you don't "get" it and you never have.
My issue with the rampant stupidity in your posts has more to do with your total denial of any kind of factual information in favor of keeping with your refuted mutterings.
Homosexuals are only trying to justify and their choice to be homosexual because they can't deal with reality.
After all the whole I was born this way is and always has been a lie.
What about the comment lead you to believe that?
"Just because I don't embrace all things homosexual as being sunshine and lollipops does not make my stance stupid or ignorant."
As if people were asking you to be totally embracing of homosexuality.
Oh, so what should my stance be? And what should it be based on then?
NJ, a liberal state, defeated Gay Marriage. I think that says a lot about the issue personally.
I said him, specifically. If he's gonna try to pigeon hole me on one misconception he has, he's obviously not interested in where I actually stand on this issue.
You get that Jall? I know why you are pissy with me, I'm not embracing the Gay Agenda 110%, so you're going after me, that's fine, I get it.
Ahh, general blathering about how I'm ignorant and stupid because I don't truck with your "facts".
You're denying that proponents of group marriage are NOT going to use the same legal challenges and arguments that the Gay Marriage folks are using?
And you call me stupid and idiotic?
I'm saying that unless you've developed some super awesome-o mind powers that none of the rest of the human race has evolved to (and we both know where I stand on that assessment by now), you can't make a certain prognostication as to what will happen.
Whoa re you to judge what is right for others? Just because it doesn't fit your preconceived notion of what marriage is and should be about?However I can say this with full certainty...group marriage does not fit the ordered contract that marriage is in that a group marriage occludes the whole concept of naming one person to be your irreplacable partner. That would prevent the argument right off the bat.
But let's not let reason and critical thought get in the way of whatever it is you are trying to accomplish here.
I'm pointing out that Gay Marriage will lead to Group Marriage.
It's just the next step.
I'm pointing out that Gay Marriage will lead to Group Marriage.
Because of course that's what has happened in every other place in the world that has allowed gay marriage. It's inevitable! You can't stop it! One day, you allow people of the same sex to get married and the next thing you know, the entire country is married to each other!
Oh wait, my bad. I remember now. That hasn't happened anyplace and there is no movement whatsoever to make it happen. Silly me.
First Trio "Married" in The Netherlands | The Brussels JournalThe Netherlands and Belgium were the first countries to give full marriage rights to homosexuals. In the United States some politicians propose “civil unions” that give homosexual couples the full benefits and responsibilities of marriage. These civil unions differ from marriage only in name.
Meanwhile in the Netherlands polygamy has been legalised in all but name. Last Friday the first civil union of three partners was registered. Victor de Bruijn (46) from Roosendaal “married” both Bianca (31) and Mirjam (35) in a ceremony before a notary who duly registered their civil union.
“I love both Bianca and Mirjam, so I am marrying them both,” Victor said. He had previously been married to Bianca. Two and a half years ago they met Mirjam Geven through an internet chatbox. Eight weeks later Mirjam deserted her husband and came to live with Victor and Bianca. After Mirjam’s divorce the threesome decided to marry.
Victor: “A marriage between three persons is not possible in the Netherlands, but a civil union is. We went to the notary in our marriage costume and exchanged rings. We consider this to be just an ordinary marriage.”
Asked by journalists to tell the secret of their peculiar relationship, Victor explained that there is no jealousy between them. “But this is because Mirjam and Bianca are bisexual. I think that with two heterosexual women it would be more difficult.” Victor stressed, however, that he is “a one hundred per cent heterosexual” and that a fourth person will not be allowed into the “marriage.” They want to take their marriage obligations seriously: “to be honest and open with each other and not philander.”
Update:
Lawyer in Bountiful polygamy case uses gay marriage defenceIf one man can marry another, why can't a man have 20 wives?
That's something of the gist of the defence to be used as the case against accused BC polygamists Winston Blackmore and James Oler started to move through BC courts Jan 21.
And, says Blackmore's lawyer, Blair Suffredine, if the argument has to go all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada, so be it.
The first appearance in Creston, BC Provincial Court lasted less than five minutes.
It was put over to Feb 18 for disclosure of documents.
After that appearance, it could move directly to BC Supreme Court in nearby Cranbrook.
But, Suffredine cautions, that has to wait for the outcome of the pending trial.
The former BC provincial Liberal MLA says he doesn't want to minimize same-sex marriage through the argument.
"If [gays] can marry, what is the reason that public policy says one person can't marry more than one person?" he asks. "How is that going to outlast a Charter challenge?"
He says people need to grasp that society's standards have changed.
"If a man loves a woman and promises to be faithful to them and take care of them, that's a crime?" Suffredine asks. "A gay man [marrying] a gay man isn't a crime anymore."
BC Attorney General Wally Oppal says some legal experts believe polygamy charges won't withstand a constitutional challenge in Canada over the issue of freedom of religion.
Oppal said at the time of the arrest that he believes polygamy is an offence in law.
And, he added, if someone says that's contrary to their religion, then the issue is now up to the courts.
Blackmore and Oler were arrested at their Bountiful, BC commune Jan 7.
Blackmore faces charges of committing polygamy with 20 women, while Oler is accused of committing polygamy with two women.
First Trio "Married" in The Netherlands | The Brussels Journal
Oops. Guess you were wrong there.
Oh and look... Polygamist using Gay Marriage to push for their rights...
Lawyer in Bountiful polygamy case uses gay marriage defence
See all you people yelling I'm full of it... you're blind to reality.
Oh, and for the record, he beat the rap. No charges filed and is now suing the state.
The Netherlands and Belgium were the first countries to give full marriage rights to homosexuals. In the United States some politicians propose “civil unions” that give homosexual couples the full benefits and responsibilities of marriage. These civil unions differ from marriage only in name.
Meanwhile in the Netherlands polygamy has been legalised in all but name. Last Friday the first civil union of three partners was registered. Victor de Bruijn (46) from Roosendaal “married” both Bianca (31) and Mirjam (35) in a ceremony before a notary who duly registered their civil union.
Victor: “A marriage between three persons is not possible in the Netherlands, but a civil union is. We went to the notary in our marriage costume and exchanged rings. We consider this to be just an ordinary marriage.”
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