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What change? Gays have been getting married ever since their were gays.
Doesn't answer the question:
Were you able to marry the person that you love, the person that you were sexually attracted to and the person that you CHOSE to spend the rest of your life with?
If so, you have more rights than you are willing to extend to your fellow brothers and sisters simply because they are gay.
Nope I like marriage just like it is..........If gays want to change it then get the people to approve the change..........
This is stupid. Show the language. Show that. Show that an interracial marriage was not considered a marriage at all.
Why are you dodging this question? I have not asked it of you before, or any variation of it, nor have I seen you explain this. It was not meant disrespectfully, only wanting to understand your mindset.
It wasn't allowed before the definition was changed :doh
There was no such thing as inter-racial marriage because it was illegal...just like gay marriage in many states.
That doesn't mean the definition of marriage itself was different. It only disqualified certain people from entering into it with other people.
Hmmmmm.....sounds very similar to the situation involving gay marriage...now doesn't it. :doh
Nope. I already explained why. If you actually are a lawyer, you know I did, and you understood it. If this is your response, then that's all we need to know.
Hmmmmm.....sounds very similar to the situation involving gay marriage...now doesn't it. :doh
These are your own words Harshaw.
" It only disqualified certain people from entering into it with other people."
Isn't that exactly what the anti gay marriage folk are doing? Disqualifying certain people from entering into marriage with other people?
Of course....you will try to spin the definition to fit your limited views. The reality is...these are your own words and they are coming back to bite you in the ass.
That's all anyone needs to now. :2wave:
Isn't that exactly what the anti gay marriage folk are doing? Disqualifying certain people from entering into marriage with other people?
Originally Posted by disneydude
Don't you Sir, disqualify certain people from entering marriage?
Oh goody. Here comes the polygamy/pedophilia argument.
Prior to any oh goody argument though, would be Disney's answer.
And, my argument is one of process not polygamy or pedophilia. You both deny two people marriage for many different reasons and you use the government to do it. This isn't true?
Yes. I deny marriage that would not be markedly beneficial to families and society.
Unfortunately for your argument, same sex marriage is beneficial to families and society.
Prior to any oh goody argument though, would be Disney's answer.
And, my argument is one of process not polygamy or pedophilia. You both deny two people marriage for many different reasons and you use the government to do it. This isn't true?
Yes. I deny marriage that would not be markedly beneficial to families and society.
Unfortunately for your argument, same sex marriage is beneficial to families and society.
Charles is right. Thats my argument.
Try to keep the beatings you take straight. (no pun intended)
Wow. You just lost in amazing color.
You my friend just made a moral judgment, no different than people who make moral judgments against homosexual marriage.
Welcome to the club
And another moral judgment! You are certainly on a roll.
Not surprising just a week after New Jersey showed gays the civil union door, there have been over a thousand posts here on the resulting thread. Read through a few and its the same advocates putting forth same statements just like they did after we defeated them here in California.
The legal difference, taxations, and public social benefits between homosexual civil unions and heterosexual marriage may be equivalent in many states now, however it is important that they are not called the same thing. There are large numbers Christians who believe what their Bible says about the seriousness of marriage as directed by God. That God condemned a number of taboos as grave abominations including incest, adultery, and specifically men laying with men or women with women. To equate any of these taboo behaviors considered abominations to something we consider so important as marriage will never ever be acceptable to us despite how many liberal judges, politicians, or media personalities try to force such down our throats because the Bible is everlasting.
Why am I not allowed to make moral judgments? I've argued both sides of the same sex marriage debate, and the reason and evidence lies with the same sex marriage side, but you guys only care about your own little moral judgments. So I'll make one.
Polygamy is inherently degrading to society. Same sex marriage is not. Evidence and reason can tell you that much.
I would like to find a non religious person just once who is against same sex marriage. And I don't mean someone who is against all civilly recognized marriage, but someone who is just against same sex marriage who has no religion.
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