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Imagine how confused a kid would be growing up with two fathers or mothers........
You can post all those biased studies if you want but it only makes common sense that a child with a father and mother make better parents then a child with two fathers.....A faher or mother have a role in raising a child that is missing when they have 2 same sex parents..........
Too bad it didn't debunk anything.
Still relying on psychological profiles from questionnaires? Shabby, very shabby.
Aside from over a thousand federal rights they would be denied once DOMA is overturned?
Domestic Partnership establishes every one of those rights which a state controls.
Actually, you are wrong. Same sex marriage can be approved under the grounds that a strong evidence base shows that it is beneficial to both partcipants and that same sex couples can raise children just as well as different sex couples. Can you provide such an evidence base for polygamous families? Incestuous couples? People who want to have sex with animals or children? I don't think so.
This is my point... and I know it is yours too. Because of this, this issue is not about rights.
What frustrates me the most about this topic is how easily it can be won, yet pro-gm refuse.
Just make gay marriage about the family, add water and it's ready to serve.
It certainly can be. We have lots of laws that discriminate based on gender.So your point is that gender discrimination under the law is okay?
Common sense once told us that left handed people where villains. Common sense is one of those meaningless terms in discussions like this. Now, got any facts to back up your claim?
I could evidence that for polygamy, but as it's a bit of a tangent I'll wait until there's a genuine polygamy 'marriage news event to argue it in earnest.
Maybe it taught you that but it did not me......that is ridiculous...........No one would believe that.....
Are you really saying that a father or a mother depending on the situation brings nothing to the table when raising a child..........are you really saying that? a yes or a no will suffice.......
It certainly can be. We have lots of laws that discriminate based on gender.
I might add there is already a polygamy group in Utah watching the gay marriage very closely and if God forbid gay marriage was ever approved by the equal protection clause they are ready to throw their hat in the ring........
And they will fail. Polygamy does not benefit those involved in a way that benefits society or the government. Gay marriage does. That's the difference.
No, he's not saying that. He's saying... as I am with lots of research and data to back me, that a two parent household, regardless of whether it is same-sex or opposite-sex is the best household to in which to rear a child, and that same sex couples do as well rearing children as opposite sex couples. I've been saying this for years, NP, I have lots of data to support it, and have witnessed it, too.
Really? Like what?
And they will fail. Polygamy does not benefit those involved in a way that benefits society or the government. Gay marriage does. That's the difference.
And they will fail. Polygamy does not benefit those involved in a way that benefits society or the government. Gay marriage does. That's the difference.
women in the military in combat............
women on submarines...........
You want more?
That is not discrimination, it is the military.
I am talking about in civilian life.
And I am still saying a child has it best chance for success with 2 parents of the opposite sex......I believe its a no brainer...For example two men could never replace the nuchering (Not sure of the spelling) a mother can bring...No study can ever change my mind on that issue.........
a lot of people will say gays don't either.......Regardless if gays use the EPC then Polygamysts can use the same clause...
Its discrimination against a woman in the military....what the **** is wrong with you?
Then you are disagreeing with evidence, NP. Fact is that children in same-sex households DO have the same chances for success as those in opposite-sex households. I understand that when I debate this issue, there will be some who will not accept the facts of this issue no matter what is provided.
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