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New Hampshire family to defy school tax

Imudman said:
Oh c'mon, you can do better than that. Groveling? Yeah, I suppose you could call it that. But I'm not in jail. Unlike you, I have people depending on me being a good citizen. You're just out to prove you're holier than anyone else, like the pharisees were...


Hahahahahah . . . . . . . .Ah Jefferson led a tax revolt . . . not a groveling contest . . . . Oh, I am not in jail . . . neither are the other estimated 30 million who don't pay their taxes each and every year . . . . .yeah you have the other socialists who depend on their comrade to feed them . . . hahahahahaha . . . . .
 
Well, if parents don't like our "safe schools" agendas and gay teachers bringing up gay friendly curriculum like we passed in Massachussetts and LA, where we got the then LA Unified School District President Jeff Horten who is gay, to commission lesbian employee Virginia Uribe to come up with some gay friendly curriculum....any parent who would oppose this is a homophobic bigot!

When we run into homophobic redneck bible thumping parents who refuse to be progressive and enlightened, then that is when we get the government to intervene and via legislation give kids the open mindedness and tolerance to gay families that are morally equivalent to hetero families they deserve.

We would get the government to intervene if parents refused to allow their children to be taught by Africa-Amerians too. We were born gay just like being black or Jewish.
 
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Shamgar said:
Hahahahahah . . . . . . . .Ah Jefferson led a tax revolt . . . not a groveling contest . . . . Oh, I am not in jail . . . neither are the other estimated 30 million who don't pay their taxes each and every year . . . . .yeah you have the other socialists who depend on their comrade to feed them . . . hahahahahaha . . . . .


Hahahahhaha, you want to explain to me how you think 30 million people dont pay taxes each year?

Now I've got you placed. I couldn't figure out if you were a closet Champion of Christ who crusades inbetween his shifts at the toll booth, or one of the crazy ass hermit fools who does odd jobs to buy catfood for himself and his shrines.
 
RightatNYU said:
Hahahahhaha, you want to explain to me how you think 30 million people dont pay taxes each year?

Now I've got you placed. I couldn't figure out if you were a closet Champion of Christ who crusades inbetween his shifts at the toll booth, or one of the crazy ass hermit fools who does odd jobs to buy catfood for himself and his shrines.

Yeah your probably right that twit George W. Bush can't get any of the facts straight . . . you would think he would have an advisor to check that out before he makes a statement like that on television . . . .what a dope!
 
galenrox said:
I'd have to assume that most of that 30 million aren't wacky ass christians who view paying taxes as a sin against God, but instead are people who make a small enough amount of money that they don't owe anything (like me)


Haven't you heard the saying about assuming . . . . obviously not . . .oh if they didn't make enough then they wouldn't owe anything. . . . would they . . . . and Bush couldn't complain aobut that . . . . but you probably didn't figure that out until I mentioned it . . .yup that sums it up. . . .
 
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Shamgar said:
Yeah your probably right that twit George W. Bush can't get any of the facts straight . . . you would think he would have an advisor to check that out before he makes a statement like that on television . . . .what a dope!

What the hell are you talking about?

This literally made absolutely no sense.
 
RightatNYU said:
What the hell are you talking about?

This literally made absolutely no sense.

The pot smoker figured it out so why can't you . . . . .
 
one must alway remember that most of police, Soldiers, marines, nurses, doctors, emts, lawyers, and teachers come from the public schools and we should be increasing taxes for schools, and real americans should be willing to pay these taxes for sake of their children's future whether they go to public schools or not.

:doh
 
lamaror said:
one must alway remember that most of police, Soldiers, marines, nurses, doctors, emts, lawyers, and teachers come from the public schools and we should be increasing taxes for schools, and real americans should be willing to pay these taxes for sake of their children's future whether they go to public schools or not.

:doh

uh.okay. no need for the big letters.
 
What's next?

"I can defend my own property. Therefore I refuse to pay part of my taxes that goes to law enforcement"

"My house is made of non-flammable material and I don't have a cooker, so my house simply cannot burn down. Therefore why should I have to pay taxes towards fire protection?

"I disagree with the Iraq war so I am not paying the part of my taxes that goes towards military expenditure over there"
 
DadaOrwell said:
38-year-old Kat Dillon isn't satisfied she's getting her money's worth from government schools... blah blah "I'm a selfish cow".

Dear God. How can I share a first name with someone so inbred?
 
Imudman said:
Here's some logic: Socialism is opposed to freedom. You are a self-avowed socialist, therefore, you are opposed to freedom.

To me, this means if you vote with the idea of taking money from my wallet for your education, all the while trying to convince me that is a good thing, then you are oppressing me. That makes you an oppressor and a con-artist. Duh...

This is a completely bogus statement. Socialism is impossible without freedom. Without freedom, it is not socialism, it becomes a dictatorship.

I don't have a problem with you not paying your taxes, but you'll have to pay the consequences.
1) No garbage collection for you
2) If you get stabbed, shot, mugged, or victimized in any criminal way, you're on your own.
3) No firemen for you.
4) No public schools for you (though this doesn't seem to bother you)
5) No social security for you, which most likely means
6) No job for you
not to mention many others, including the mail.

If you're willing to take the risk of being robbed, shot, have your house burn down, and be abandoned in the huge pile of garbage you've collected with no consequence to the perpetrators, you go ahead and don't pay your taxes.

Simply because Marx said it was ok, doesn't mean it is inherently evil.
 
Mikkel said:
This is a completely bogus statement. Socialism is impossible without freedom. Without freedom, it is not socialism, it becomes a dictatorship.

I don't have a problem with you not paying your taxes, but you'll have to pay the consequences.
1) No garbage collection for you
2) If you get stabbed, shot, mugged, or victimized in any criminal way, you're on your own.
3) No firemen for you.
4) No public schools for you (though this doesn't seem to bother you)
5) No social security for you, which most likely means
6) No job for you
not to mention many others, including the mail.

If you're willing to take the risk of being robbed, shot, have your house burn down, and be abandoned in the huge pile of garbage you've collected with no consequence to the perpetrators, you go ahead and don't pay your taxes.

Simply because Marx said it was ok, doesn't mean it is inherently evil.
Your post would make Orwell proud. Socialism is impossible without freedom? You've got to be kidding. I've read some of your other posts, and usually you're much better. Try again.
 
Imudman said:
Your post would make Orwell proud. Socialism is impossible without freedom? You've got to be kidding. I've read some of your other posts, and usually you're much better. Try again.

OK, I sort of spun it a little on that last post. Socialism inherently has a type of freedom, more of the social nature, and less of the economic one. In my opinion, I'd rather have social freedom than economic freedom. You've called Kelzie a potential dictator. That's just plain wrong. True socialism isn't remotely near a dictatorship. Higher taxes, yes, but oppresive military force over it's people? No. Don't throw the USSR or Cuba or N. Korea at me to show me otherwise, because they are not socialist in any respect.

As Benjamin Franklin said, the only two certainties in life are death and taxes. You say you don't want to pay your taxes because you don't like how the money is being used for the educational system? Well I don't like what the government is doing in Iraq, does that justify me to not have to pay my taxes?

We don't have the liberty to pick and choose where our taxes go. Why is that? Because we live in a republic where our elected officials choose for us. If a majority of people didn't want to pay for the educational system, then they'd vote for representatives that feel the same way, and they'd pass legislation changing the tax system or educational funding. That's not the case, so you'll just have to make due. If you don't like it, I would reccommend moving to the Cayman Islands. It's beautiful there and they have no Income or Property tax on anything. Their government solely relies on tourism and duty.

I believe in the success of our educational system, and unless people pay their taxes, then it will fail, and that's bad for everyone.
 
Mikkel said:
OK, I sort of spun it a little on that last post. Socialism inherently has a type of freedom, more of the social nature, and less of the economic one. In my opinion, I'd rather have social freedom than economic freedom. You've called Kelzie a potential dictator. That's just plain wrong. True socialism isn't remotely near a dictatorship. Higher taxes, yes, but oppresive military force over it's people? No. Don't throw the USSR or Cuba or N. Korea at me to show me otherwise, because they are not socialist in any respect.

As Benjamin Franklin said, the only two certainties in life are death and taxes. You say you don't want to pay your taxes because you don't like how the money is being used for the educational system? Well I don't like what the government is doing in Iraq, does that justify me to not have to pay my taxes?

We don't have the liberty to pick and choose where our taxes go. Why is that? Because we live in a republic where our elected officials choose for us. If a majority of people didn't want to pay for the educational system, then they'd vote for representatives that feel the same way, and they'd pass legislation changing the tax system or educational funding. That's not the case, so you'll just have to make due. If you don't like it, I would reccommend moving to the Cayman Islands. It's beautiful there and they have no Income or Property tax on anything. Their government solely relies on tourism and duty.

I believe in the success of our educational system, and unless people pay their taxes, then it will fail, and that's bad for everyone.
This post is much better. FYI, I pay my taxes. Grudgingly? Sure, but I do it. And even though we don't have the right to choose where our taxes go, we ought to have that right. Listen - taxation is theft, no matter how you spin it. Unless it's a voluntary contribution, it's robbery.

If you think paying taxes is so great, you should pay more than required. But don't expect me to help you, because I have better places to put my money...
 
Mikkel said:
OK, I sort of spun it a little on that last post. Socialism inherently has a type of freedom, more of the social nature, and less of the economic one. In my opinion, I'd rather have social freedom than economic freedom. You've called Kelzie a potential dictator. That's just plain wrong. True socialism isn't remotely near a dictatorship. Higher taxes, yes, but oppresive military force over it's people? No. Don't throw the USSR or Cuba or N. Korea at me to show me otherwise, because they are not socialist in any respect.

As Benjamin Franklin said, the only two certainties in life are death and taxes. You say you don't want to pay your taxes because you don't like how the money is being used for the educational system? Well I don't like what the government is doing in Iraq, does that justify me to not have to pay my taxes?

We don't have the liberty to pick and choose where our taxes go. Why is that? Because we live in a republic where our elected officials choose for us. If a majority of people didn't want to pay for the educational system, then they'd vote for representatives that feel the same way, and they'd pass legislation changing the tax system or educational funding. That's not the case, so you'll just have to make due. If you don't like it, I would reccommend moving to the Cayman Islands. It's beautiful there and they have no Income or Property tax on anything. Their government solely relies on tourism and duty.

I believe in the success of our educational system, and unless people pay their taxes, then it will fail, and that's bad for everyone.

Shut up. He has? That is so cool. Which country? I call Germany. Now I have to go find it.
 
Imudman said:
Your entire thought process' are devoted to more government, that's what makes you a socialist. And of course you don't feel the need to talk to your congressman, because you're already getting your way. I'd talk to mine, but he's an idiot. And if I'm an odd ball in my way of thinking, so was Jefferson. But now I have to go so I can earn some money to support you and a bunch of other would-be dictators...

Oh nevermind. Just whining because you have to pay taxes and participate in a society. Didn't I already tell you to go live in the hills if you don't like it? I bet you even went to public school didn't you?
 
Kelzie said:
Oh nevermind. Just whining because you have to pay taxes and participate in a society. Didn't I already tell you to go live in the hills if you don't like it? I bet you even went to public school didn't you?
Not that it's any of your business, but no, I did not. Except for later on in high school when I convinced my parents to let me. It was the stupidest thing I ever did.

And for you to characterize my beliefs as "whining" just shows me that you are the one who is whining. You want to take my money, and for me to like it. Tough. You can take my money, but I don't have to like it...
 
Imudman said:
Not that it's any of your business, but no, I did not. Except for later on in high school when I convinced my parents to let me. It was the stupidest thing I ever did.

And for you to characterize my beliefs as "whining" just shows me that you are the one who is whining. You want to take my money, and for me to like it. Tough. You can take my money, but I don't have to like it...

Huh. So you DID go to public school. I'm not the one whining. I don't give a rat's ass if you like it or not. If you want to live in a society you pay taxes. The hills are calling nature boy.

You use roads. You pay taxes.
You have fire alarms. You pay taxes.
You enjoy the fact that we are not being attacked by another country. You pay taxes.
You have EVER taken a bus. You pay taxes.
You vote. You pay taxes.
You rely on 911 to be there. You pay taxes.
You go to public school (which you did). You pay taxes.
You talk a walk in the wilderness. You pay taxes.

Suck it up.
 
Kelzie said:
Huh. So you DID go to public school. I'm not the one whining. I don't give a rat's ass if you like it or not. If you want to live in a society you pay taxes. The hills are calling nature boy.

You use roads. You pay taxes.
You have fire alarms. You pay taxes.
You enjoy the fact that we are not being attacked by another country. You pay taxes.
You have EVER taken a bus. You pay taxes.
You vote. You pay taxes.
You rely on 911 to be there. You pay taxes.
You go to public school (which you did). You pay taxes.
You talk a walk in the wilderness. You pay taxes.

Suck it up.
I have a right to complain that you're a potential dictator. Suck it up. Socialist...
 
Kelzie said:
Huh. So you DID go to public school. I'm not the one whining. I don't give a rat's ass if you like it or not. If you want to live in a society you pay taxes. The hills are calling nature boy.

You use roads. You pay taxes.
You have fire alarms. You pay taxes.
You enjoy the fact that we are not being attacked by another country. You pay taxes.
You have EVER taken a bus. You pay taxes.
You vote. You pay taxes.
You rely on 911 to be there. You pay taxes.
You go to public school (which you did). You pay taxes.
You talk a walk in the wilderness. You pay taxes.

Suck it up.

Abrasive, angry, AND accurate.

I like.
 
RightatNYU said:
Abrasive, angry, AND accurate.

I like.

Ha! I got a REPUBLICAN to agree with me. And as much as I would like to be a dictator, alas, I feel the need to at least finish school. So you have a couple more years to hide. I hear Tennessee has some great hills...
 
RightatNYU said:
Abrasive, angry, AND accurate.

I like.
It's a confidence game, and you fell for it. Let me know when you wake up...
 
Imudman said:
It's a confidence game, and you fell for it. Let me know when you wake up...

Actually, I was a bit more taken with the fact that she was right, you simply are whining about having to pay those mean ol taxes.

And I'm actually about to go to sleep, want me to call you in the morning?
 
RightatNYU said:
Actually, I was a bit more taken with the fact that she was right, you simply are whining about having to pay those mean ol taxes.

And I'm actually about to go to sleep, want me to call you in the morning?

No you can't go. I'm winning. I need a witness! It's not that late in NY. Come on. Hey, I went to the CIA. Ever been up to Hyde Park?
 
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